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-- So I just listened to "Starry Eyed Surprize" in the car on the way home from work
Posted by INFERNO2K on Dec-09-2002 23:35:
So I just listened to "Starry Eyed Surprize" in the car on the way home from work
Discuss.
Posted by Az on Dec-09-2002 23:38:
OMFG YOU DON'T KNOW TRANCE, THATS GAY! THATS PURE CHEESE!
is what a twat would say 
why feel the need to make a thread of this sort?
personally I don't mind it, others hate it
don't like it?
deal with it

Posted by JM on Dec-09-2002 23:38:
what a load of cheese. damm sounds kinda catchy, but just soo brittney spearsy too 
>JM<
Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-09-2002 23:40:
lol @ Az's post...
hmm... but yea.. this is not trance. Its pop music, and in other words, sellout music. Shit at that. booooo
Posted by Az on Dec-09-2002 23:42:
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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
lol @ Az's post...
hmm... but yea.. this is not trance. Its pop music, and in other words, sellout music. Shit at that. booooo |
mikey............
I'd like you to construct a full, well thought out post, with examples and undeniable fact, as to how starry eyed surprise is sellout music
Posted by torontotrance on Dec-09-2002 23:43:
you realized how bad the song was
Posted by beema on Dec-09-2002 23:43:
yep, it's the reason the Brits disowned Oakey, ahhahaha
Posted by Az on Dec-09-2002 23:44:
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Originally posted by beema
yep, it's the reason the Brits disowned Oakey, ahhahaha |
what the fuck?
where does this keep coming from?
Posted by INFERNO2K on Dec-09-2002 23:46:
Just as long as the music doesnt make me laugh so hard that I begin to swirve out of control
Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-09-2002 23:49:
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Originally posted by Az
what the fuck?
where does this keep coming from? |
face it
i know he used to be somewhat of a god. but he just cant hack the pace anymore. I mean making a rap/dance tune.. wtf is he doing? And his album was shite to. Not for the fans. For the money. Which fair play to him, get some money behind yaself, but wouldnt it be nice if we could hav both. ie. a decent ablum for the fans and he gets his dosh. SELLOUT!
plus his sets are boring these days to.
Posted by musicaddict on Dec-09-2002 23:52:
first time i heard it in a LA radio station here in souther cali the station dj was like "oakenfold's new song" i was like wtf? This is oakenfold? lol.
Posted by Az on Dec-09-2002 23:55:
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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
face it i know he used to be somewhat of a god. but he just cant hack the pace anymore. I mean making a rap/dance tune.. wtf is he doing? And his album was shite to. Not for the fans. For the money. Which fair play to him, get some money behind yaself, but wouldnt it be nice if we could hav both. ie. a decent ablum for the fans and he gets his dosh. SELLOUT! plus his sets are boring these days to. |
FACT: Paul Oakenfold signed Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince (Will Smith), I believe they are rap artists? so it's not unknown for him to meddle with rap/hip hop
FACT: Bunkka is not shite, in fact it got pretty good reviews, and technically it's a great album, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's fact, thats an OPINION
FACT: I'm a Paul Oakenfold fan, I bought the album, I like the album, it's got a diverse range of tracks, from genres and artists that have influenced him, it's not a pop album, go listen to zoo york and see if he could release that. Just so happens starry eyed surprise is easy on the ears for MOST people
FACT: Oakies sets aren't boring, well I certainly didn't get bored at Global Gathering anyway, and neither did the absolutely packed out main tent, with god knows how many people chanting his name.
I believe thats 1-0
Posted by Murcie on Dec-09-2002 23:57:
Starry Eyed Surprise isn't too bad IMO.
Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-09-2002 23:57:
its been said before...oakie played hip hop before he ever played trance. who cares anymore.
Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-09-2002 23:58:
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Originally posted by Az
I believe thats 1-0 |
Yup. thats right. Now u try and get on the scoreboard
Posted by Az on Dec-10-2002 00:01:
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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Yup. thats right. Now u try and get on the scoreboard |
what the fuck? I completely took apart your entire statement, because it's full of bullshit. Seriously Mikey, have you ever seen Oakenfold??, have you even listened to the album?? Do you know anything about him??
blatantly not, so until you do, don't comment
2-0 to me
don't be bitter
Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-10-2002 00:11:
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Originally posted by Az
what the fuck? I completely took apart your entire statement, because it's full of bullshit. Seriously Mikey, have you ever seen Oakenfold??, have you even listened to the album?? Do you know anything about him??
blatantly not, so until you do, don't comment
2-0 to me
don't be bitter
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oh dear.. u didnt rip apart my post. Infact u confirmed some of the points that make Oakie wank. Ie. in the past he has mixed with rap artists, etc. Im not saying this is a bad thing. But most here at tranceaddict.com including urself im guessing do not like rap. Ur gash if u do.
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FACT: Bunkka is not shite, in fact it got pretty good reviews, and technically it's a great album, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's fact, thats an OPINION
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ok thats a load of crap. U totally contradicted urself. U cant say FACT: Bunkka is not shite, and then finish ur post with, "thats an opinion"
imo the album is gash. It does not meet my tastes at all, and forgive me if im wrong, but if Paul did not used to be such a legend, im guessing u would not hav even touched this album. The style of the choons is wank imo, very diff from some of his older work.
FACT: okies sets are boring. he doesnt even enjoy his sets anymore he claimed in an interview. I read somewhere he even has a disease where he doesnt not like to be crowded by people. His massive style change bores the fuck out of me, and he does not hav the same magik in his transitions as he used to..
really.. i guess i hav my opinion, u hav urs..
3-0.. ha!
dont be bitter
Posted by Ste on Dec-10-2002 00:15:
ive said it once n ill say it agen 
az
oakenfold iss shit
a fucking cock face
and makes wank music
heheh
stop defending the coke noses cock sucker
HES SHIT DEAD HAS BEEN ******!
Posted by Az on Dec-10-2002 00:25:
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| oh dear.. u didnt rip apart my post. Infact u confirmed some of the points that make Oakie wank. Ie. in the past he has mixed with rap artists, etc. Im not saying this is a bad thing. But most here at tranceaddict.com including urself im guessing do not like rap. Ur gash if u do. |
cos Oakenfold mixed with rap artists that makes him wank? how so? lets not forget he was the first person to sign Will Smith (who I believe is the most succesful Rap Artist ever...). And yes Mikey, I do like rap, that make me gash?? say that to my face new years you narrow minded ****
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| ok thats a load of crap. U totally contradicted urself. U cant say FACT: Bunkka is not shite, and then finish ur post with, "thats an opinion" imo the album is gash. It does not meet my tastes at all, and forgive me if im wrong, but if Paul did not used to be such a legend, im guessing u would not hav even touched this album. The style of the choons is wank imo, very diff from some of his older work. |
I haven't contradicted myself at all, read my post again, I was referring to you and you not knowing the difference between a fact and an opinion, you even state IMO ffs. And I'm sure that I wouldn't have touched the album if he "hadn't been such a legend" as you put it, but then again, the man is a legend, without him we'd still be listening to kraftwerk. Yet again you use IMO, I asked you for fact, which you don't have
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| FACT: okies sets are boring. he doesnt even enjoy his sets anymore he claimed in an interview. I read somewhere he even has a disease where he doesnt not like to be crowded by people. His massive style change bores the fuck out of me, and he does not hav the same magik in his transitions as he used to.. |
yet again, not fact, you're opinion. As this is a democratic society ( on the most part) maybe if you can get more people to say his sets are boring than the amount of people that have had amazing times at his gigs this year, I could maybe believe you, but the fact is you can't, cos you'll never get that many people. 3 Festivals, 3 main arenas, all jam packed, with people chanting his name all the way through the set. You get me that interview then mikey, because recently he's been saying he's enjoying DJing more than ever 
you didn't answer my question anyway Mikey
Ever Seen him??
Ever listen to the album all the way through a few times??
Have any clue??
answer to all 3??
no
you're making a fool of yourself now, the score is 3-0 to me, come back when you know what the fuck you're talking about
Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-10-2002 00:42:
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Originally posted by Az
cos Oakenfold mixed with rap artists that makes him wank? how so?
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i think u need to go back and read what i put. "that makes him wank?" i actually said NO.. ffs
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I haven't contradicted myself at all, read my post again, I was referring to you and you not knowing the difference between a fact and an opinion, you even state IMO ffs. And I'm sure that I wouldn't have touched the album if he "hadn't been such a legend" as you put it, but then again, the man is a legend, without him we'd still be listening to kraftwerk. Yet again you use IMO, I asked you for fact, which you don't have
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ok here were just going round in circles. Noone here has yet given a fact. Coz its all a matter of opinion. Okies sets arent boring isnt a fact, okies album isnt shite isnt a fact. So why dont u provide me with some actual facts. Better yet dont bother coz i dont care.
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Ever Seen him??
Ever listen to the album all the way through a few times??
Have any clue??
answer to all 3??
no
you're making a fool of yourself now, the score is 3-0 to me, come back when you know what the fuck you're talking about
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yea he's a boggle eyed alien. not live, thank fuck. never will.
yes
yes
if saying what i think is rite is me making a fool out myself then fuck it, i cba anymore. I think u shud try and respect the reasons that not everyone will like him with the same passion u do. And dont call me a ****.. whats that 4-0 to u now
Im off.. night peeps.
Posted by Prototrance on Dec-10-2002 00:50:
Oakie as a DJ = Good
Oakie as a producer = A bit dodgy. One or two good tracks/remixes but some are well below par.
Posted by Az on Dec-10-2002 01:13:
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| i think u need to go back and read what i put. "that makes him wank?" i actually said NO.. ffs |
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| Infact u confirmed some of the points that make Oakie wank. Ie. in the past he has mixed with rap artists, etc. |
there we are 
just thought I'd remind you what we're arguing about
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Originally posted by Az
mikey............
I'd like you to construct a full, well thought out post, with examples and undeniable fact, as to how starry eyed surprise is sellout music |
your reply wasn't well thought out (doesn't seem to be anyway), doesn't contain one single fact as to how starry eyed surprise is sellout music, or any other track on the album for that matter.
you gave a weak argument, that you cannot possibly back up
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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I mean making a rap/dance tune.. wtf is he doing? |
as floorfiller and I have said, he's been doin Rap/Hip hop a lot longer than he's been doing trance (which is a fact btw, just so you know) but you'd know that if you had a clue 
you say his sets are boring, but you've never seen him spin, so your argument again is weak
You say you've listened to the album a few times?? I'm intrigued as to how you came up with the idea that it's sellout music, sure Starry Eyed Surprise did well in the charts, but Ready Steady Go didn't, Southern Sun didn't do too great (if it did it was because of the Tiesto mix). Lets see how well he'd do if he released Zoo York or Nixons spirit....but then again having listened to the album you'd have known this
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| I think u shud try and respect the reasons that not everyone will like him with the same passion u do |
you see me with a Perfecto logo in my sig or Avatar, replying in every oakie thread under the sun, downloading all his live sets, going to see him all the time?? no you don't, because I don't like him with any "passion", I think he's good, and he's done a hell of a lot for the music I love, and it pisses me off when twats like you take the piss when you have absolutely no clue whatsoever
I stopped keeping score a while back
Posted by aloep on Dec-10-2002 01:24:
"A Good Trance DJ has suddenly gone and made a shit hip hop track and a shit pop album" is the view I most commonly hear regarding his album and Starry Eyed Surprise.
Posted by Maxim303 on Dec-10-2002 01:48:
blah blah, album sucks, no doubt, but the remixes have been very nice so far. oliver lieb ,tiesto, etc have turned shit into shinola, and i'm happy for that 
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