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*.ogg -> Replacment of MP3?
Iv'e recently bumped into this new format, which can be found in the hub BTW (search for jon_the_dentist-mercury__push_harder_mix).
First of all- it's much smaller then MP3 formats, files are up to 4MB instead of 10MB+.
Second and most important- the quality sounds just the same!
So why don't people start using this format more? are there any known downsides to it?
//edit: err, posted it in music discussion by mistake... some mod move it to chillout plz.
aint .ogg apple mac format for mp3 ? , i guess mp3s will be around forever, i very much doubt i will be able to convert 3000 mp3s to a different format
Ogg has been around for quite some time but never really caught on .. I first heard about it 2+ years ago i think 
I guess file sizes aren't as much of a concern as they were when MP3 was first developed; many more people have high speed connections, and harddrive space is massive + cheap!
MP3 won't be around forever, but I'd say it will dominate the music industry for the next 10-15 years...
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| Originally posted by DJ RozzeR aint .ogg apple mac format for mp3 ? |
U can convert an ogg vorbis file to mp3 with dbpoweramp ..if u think that is necessary. 
Are there any converters out there that can convert .mp3 files to .ogg, and vice versa? I'm too lazy to look it up myself on shareware.
Damnit, I hate it when someone beats me to the punch! Thanx for the info. NYx. I'm downloading the codec right now.
I wouldn't recommend converting ogg to mp3 or vice versa, but ogg is a good format on its own.
10x for all the info guys, seems like there are no downsides to this format then(?) 
If that's the case- I'm really confused why didn't it catch on...
The *ogg Format was designed to replace the *MP3 format. Fraunhofer, the creator of the *mp3 format, was supposededly going to start collecting royalties for the usage of mp3's (Though I don't know how he could possibly do it). Independant programers got together and made *ogg's to replace the *mp3's so that no one will be forced to pay these royalties. The *ogg format is supposed to be free for anyone to change or add to it; while MP3 is not (Open source, if you will).
The *ogg format is designed (in theory) to reduce the size of songs by varying the bitrate of the encoding. But the *ogg format never caught on, and programmers never developed it to the point where it was substantially smaller than the *mp3.
One should also note that by encoding your *mp3's into *ogg's you will lose some sound quality. Everytime you convert a song into another format you will lose "some" quality. ie. From your CD; to *wav on your harddrive; from *wav to *mp3; and from *mp3 to *ogg. If you really want *ogg files and don't want to sacrafice too much quality, you should convert your tunes to .ogg format directly from it's source (CD or vinyl, whatever the case maybe).
Winamp 2.81 has all the plug-ins you need to convert *mp3's, *ogg's, *wav's, *wma's, etc. If you need Fraunhofer's PROFFESSIONAL version of his MP3 codec, let me know.
fuck ogg!!!!!! mp34ever
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| Originally posted by Mystoz fuck ogg!!!!!! mp34ever |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery If everyone was like you we'd still be living in caves eating raw meat... |
hope not, got a mp3 player and ton's of mp3's mp3pro couln't replace mp3 10 mb is good for an mp3 most people do have broadband interne
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Re: *.ogg -> Replacment of MP3?
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| Originally posted by eXeTik First of all- it's much smaller then MP3 formats, files are up to 4MB instead of 10MB+. Second and most important- the quality sounds just the same! So why don't people start using this format more? are there any known downsides to it? |
The OGG format is indeed capable of more things than mp3 and at lower size.
Everyone is just do darn lazy =P
"Let's just stick to the old mp3 format, we don't want to damage our brains or something with three new letters."
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| Originally posted by Lyst Everyone is just do darn lazy =P "Let's just stick to the old mp3 format, we don't want to damage our brains or something with three new letters." |
Ogg is alright, but until it gets more widespread usage it's pretty worthless...
the good thing about mp3 is that there are soo many mp3 players out there..i mean portable and car mp3 player...if the start releasing ogg capable players...then its a diff story...but i like mp3..so.
ogg is growing in popularity, but it doesnt offer much better sound quality than a correctly ripped mp3: IE: LAME codec 3.92, used with EAC (www.exactaudiocopy.de), on alt preset standard...VBR.....
if you use that, your mp3's are pretty much identical to the original CD.....extremely good quality (to the human ear anyhow)
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| Originally posted by AussieTrance Mp3 here to stay, much to the annoyance of the RIAA |
you know i just DL the encoder and i made some test...OGG sounds better then mp3..i encoded a wav to 128 ogg file and encoded a 256 mp3 and the ogg sounded a little better...closer to the wav format......but i aint encoder all my shit to ogg...thinking about encoding live sets to ogg....heres the big + on .ogg..
i encode a song......
.wav file = 44.9 megs
.mp3 @ 256 = 08.1 megs
.ogg @ 128 = 03.8 megs
Doesn't anyone remember mp4? It was just like ogg but died out a lot quicker. I had a couple of trance tacks on the format. Thought it was going to take over mp3.
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| Originally posted by trance[]control-fan you know i just DL the encoder and i made some test...OGG sounds better then mp3..i encoded a wav to 128 ogg file and encoded a 256 mp3 and the ogg sounded a little better...closer to the wav format......but i aint encoder all my shit to ogg...thinking about encoding live sets to ogg....heres the big + on .ogg.. i encode a song...... .wav file = 44.9 megs .mp3 @ 256 = 08.1 megs .ogg @ 128 = 03.8 megs |
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