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What happens when you die ?

What do you belive ?

Do people still belive in heaven or what ?

I use to goto church but i aint been for like 10 years , and I dont think i enjoyed it. I guess its quite a lame thread coz when ya dead ya dead , but people need to imagine it right ?

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Originally posted by DJ RozzeR What do you belive ? Do people still belive in heaven or what ? I use to goto church but i aint been for like 10 years , and I dont think i enjoyed it. I guess its quite a lame thread coz when ya dead ya dead , but people need to imagine it right ?

All based on different religions/cultures/beliefs.

I'm christian, I pray I'm going to heaven.

Depends what you believe, I guess. Most religions state that the body decays and your soul goes to heaven or hell (after judgement) and continues being for all eternity.

it's impossible to imagine nothing happening, try it, like imagine you aren't anywhere and don't excist

there's gotta be something

well my mom's family is roman catholic...very strictly brought up...all went to catholic school and named after saints...i was sort of brought up catholic. i had my communion and confirmation but i don't go to church every sunday. i am more spiritual, but i do lean towards a lot of the catholic beliefs though. i believe truely evil people who have no desire to change or be forgiven will go to hell (very few people will go to hell though). i think every day people who commit every day sins like lie and cheat etc. will spend their time in purgatory before going into heaven. once we're in heaven, i think we will all exist as souls....not human bodies. for one thing, we can't age since it will be for eternity. i think this whole life is just a test and there is definitely something much better awaits us and we shouldn't be afraid to die. just be a good person in this life and try to do right by god and most importantly, forgive and forget. life is too short...i also sure hope there will be music in heaven or that would SUCK!

great thread by the way

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Originally posted by Slylee well my mom's family is roman catholic...very strictly brought up...all went to catholic school and named after saints...i was sort of brought up catholic. i had my communion and confirmation but i don't go to church every sunday. i am more spiritual, but i do lean towards a lot of the catholic beliefs though. i believe truely evil people who have no desire to change or be forgiven will go to hell (very few people will go to hell though). i think every day people who commit every day sins like lie and cheat etc. will spend their time in purgatory before going into heaven. once we're in heaven, i think we will all exist as souls....not human bodies. for one thing, we can't age since it will be for eternity. i think this whole life is just a test and there is definitely something much better awaits us and we shouldn't be afraid to die. just be a good person in this life and try to do right by god and most importantly, forgive and forget. life is too short...i also sure hope there will be music in heaven or that would SUCK! great thread by the way

I agree with what you said.
I'm christian, not catholic. But in all religions they worship or praise their dominate "being". As for me, I am quite scared to do, I have committed many sins in my life, but like you said, forgive and to forget. I also do not attend church every sunday, and it's okay to do that. Not everyone can devote their time practicing thier own religion, no need to worry. Just as long as you're sorry, or believe in god, there's no worries through life. I believe that god is watching over me right now and he is always trying to help me to become a good person. God bless.

Here we go with this primitive shit again!

so what, you think all these people who actually lived and walked the earth when jesus did just decided to pull shit out of their ass and write it in a book and call it the bible???

Several thousand years ago, a small tribe of ignorant near-savages wrote various collections of myths, wild tales, lies, and gibberish. Over the centuries, these stories were embroidered, garbled, mutilated, and torn into small pieces that were then repeatedly shuffled. Finally, this material was badly translated into several languages successively. The resultant text, creationists feel, is the best guide to the complex and technical subject of life.

well they weren't savages w/ no modern technology by choice! they had to work with what they had...trust me i have never made any attempt to read the bible because it can be perceieved in so many ways.

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Originally posted by Illusion Several thousand years ago, a small tribe of ignorant near-savages wrote various collections of myths, wild tales, lies, and gibberish. Over the centuries, these stories were embroidered, garbled, mutilated, and torn into small pieces that were then repeatedly shuffled. Finally, this material was badly translated into several languages successively. The resultant text, creationists feel, is the best guide to the complex and technical subject of life.

Well said

According to my tattooist, Im on my last life in the reincarnation cycle, so I go straight to heaven.

I'm christian and I bielive in life after death i.e. heaven/hell

as for those who support that there is no such thing as a god or jesus christ, what is your view about what happens after death? I'm am very interested to know

Whether realigion is right or wrong is not the issue.

What gives me hope is that religion has always been retreating in the mighty face of science and will always continue to do so until there's finaly no trace of the poison left in the human psyche.

take a look at history and the mighty power of the church a few hundered years ago.

Take a look at the misrable ******s now!

The next big problem however is Islam. They're about at the level of christianity during the feudal ages. That religion is showing it's true face now, just like christianity did when they used to burn people at the stake. But that'll pass too. It's just a matter of time.

First of all I see myself as the sum of all the chemical and electrochemical processes in one heap of various cells. Me beeing concious is the continous electochemic fire in my brain. Once this is stopped or severely harmed (such as coma)I can not be the one I was the time before. Once brain activity has stopped, I can't exist. End of story... nothing after life!

For all you religious people out there: THINK! Why would you think someone created a place like Hell or Heaven... or any similar imaginary place?
To me it's just a matter of control! Everyone (who believes) fears a place like hell... on the other hand in most "modern" religions very normal and fun activities are "forbidden" or "sin" ... such as sexuality, noone can say it's not fun. But once you did it, you'll go to hell or live in fear of going there if you can't make up...

FEAR is the best way to control people( as long as it doesn't turn to panic). Watching news and reading stories about america I clearly see, that it's totally conrolled by fear.

btw.: I consider all your religious books and stuff nothing more than some funny written books of history with rich fantasy, possibly containing some simplified rules for the hard life about 2000-3000 years ago. Most of those rules even contradict themselves.

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Originally posted by Illusion The next big problem however is Islam. They're about at the level of christianity during the feudal ages. That religion is showing it's true face now, just like christianity did when they used to burn people at the stake. But that'll pass too. It's just a matter of time.

only difference is, they got nuclear weapons now

i think the question in this thread was "What do you think happens when you die"? you guys are only arguing that there is presumably no god or greater being or a heaven or hell (which i think is really sad, but that's just me)... i agree with P'zazz (once again)... i would like to know what all of you nonbelievers think happens after you die since you only consider us a big much of molecules...which is TRUE, but why do we have an ability to feel and have emotions and act on them?? it's our soul that i believe god gave us along w/ the ability to chose right from wrong. if god (or whoever) created man with this ability, then there has to be rules since every soul and being is different...there has to be some sort of order in society or we'd all be living like animals. and that is only in THIS life which is a test to see who gets to live in eternal happiness or go to hell. just because sex feels good, does not mean that we should go screw anything that walks. i dont think jesus had that in mind when he created man and woman with penises and vaginas. he made it so that we can create and enjoy it with our one partner or "soulmate"...but this is all pointless since u don't believe in any of that anyway...

Now before U post, KNOW your religion... nobody ever said that JESUS created mankind (apart from various differing explanations for human life on this planet) cristian religion said "GOD" created the man and from that derived the woman.

Then READ, as I stated, I dont believe in anything after death. How would that be possible? Thousands of human beings die every second(!) where to find a space lasrge enought to contain them? Let alone the energy needed to keep your "soul" alive for eternity?

I don't see any necessity for something like a SOUL. Feelings and emotions are reactions, our brain induces without direct control of conciousness as an answer to the input it's actively filtering before processing. The decission of right and wrong is not absolute. It totally depends on the history of the being, of what he/she learned all the way to the specific decission.

hey slylee, that's cool, seems we share some common views about life


Anyhow what I want to say is that I believe in god, and I think that's what keeps me going, it gives meaning to my life having something to believe in. Other people don't believe in god and religion but they believe in oher things, I guess it all comes down to ones character

you become worm food.

"Our conscoiusness is the total sum of our experiences"

People who need to blieve in an aftelife are inscure little pussies who lack belief in themselves.

To undrestand life and more acuratly human consciousness you'd have to have a good knowledge of History, Dialectical Materialism, Works of Sigmund Frued, and Advanced physics. A general knowledge in these areas gives you a rich point of view when it comes to these issues.

The reason most people have a religion is because of their religious families. They pick up their beliefs unconsciously from their environment then when it comes to justifiying them their brains start rationalizing everything.

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i would like to know what all of you nonbelievers think happens after you die since you only consider us a big much of molecules...

The same thing that happens when animals, plants or bacteria die.

We die, our vital bodily functions cease, and we disolve back into the Earth from whence we came. I don't understand why so many people who believe in God find this harder to believe than the assumption that we ascend up into heaven to sit next to an omnipresent spirit after we "pass on"?

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but why do we have an ability to feel and have emotions and act on them??

We are not the only animals that have emotions. In fact it is the most primitive, animalistic parts of our brain - namely the hippocampus and the amygdala - that control emotions. Our emotions, in this sense, can be traced back to the days when we were still living in trees: were our ancient ancestors God's chosen children too then? Will we fraternise with neanderthals when we ascend to heaven?

Or could it be that emotions are merely cognitive reactions necessary for us to instincively interact with our environment, once again harking back to the days of our pre-historic relatives?

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it's our soul that i believe god gave us along w/ the ability to chose right from wrong.

The soul is more poetry than reality.

It would be nice to think that there is some spiritual part of ourselves seperate from the physical world, but, frankly, it isn't there.

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and that is only in THIS life which is a test to see who gets to live in eternal happiness or go to hell.

That's a pretty grim view of life isn't it? That this life is nothing more than a precursor to the next one?

Sorry, but I value my life more than that.

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just because sex feels good, does not mean that we should go screw anything that walks.

Why not? If it's safe and consensual then what's the problem?

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First of all I see myself as the sum of all the chemical and electrochemical processes in one heap of various cells. Me beeing concious is the continous electochemic fire in my brain. Once this is stopped or severely harmed (such as coma)I can not be the one I was the time before. Once brain activity has stopped, I can't exist.

Good point.

If who one is is determined by one's "soul", then why do people with degenerative brain diseases (i.e. alzheimers) or brain injuries becomes, quite simply, different people? And if who one is can be shown to be so tightly tied up with one's "neural state" then what room is there left for a soul, or for life after death?

I would like to believe that there is something "beyond" the every day physical world, I really would, but the fact is there just doesn't seem to be any room for it. I wish there were a God who loved me and who guided me through the tough times, but I get more satisfaction from the realisation that my life is my own to define and that it is up to me, entirely, to decide what I do and what I become.

If I die, I die. If I go to hell then I go to hell. Fact is, all I can be certain of is the life that I currently live, and that I'm not going to sacrifice it in favour of the abject worship of some deity who may or may not exist, in the hope that I may spend eternity in heaven whle so many - through no fault of their own - are consigned to an eternity of pain. This life is all I have, and I'm not going to waste it on my knees in front of some alter in the vain hope that it may continue after I die.

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Originally posted by Renegade If I die, I die. If I go to hell then I go to hell. Fact is, all I can be certain of is the life that I currently live, and that I'm not going to sacrifice it in favour of the abject worship of some deity who may or may not exist, in the hope that I may spend eternity in heaven whle so many - through no fault of their own - are consigned to an eternity of pain. This life is all I have, and I'm not going to waste it on my knees in front of some alter in the vain hope that it may continue after I die.

Excellent post there Renegade. I thought your whole post was pretty well thought out, but this last paragraph really resonated with me. Bravo!

Since I'm not religious in any way, I can't say that I'll be going to heaven or hell or wherever it is people think they will go.

I'd like to think that I'll be reincarnated in some way. I hate to think that a life energy ceases to exist on the planet. Kind of like the physics theory that energy is never created, nor destroyed.

It may be a little out there, and I don't even know if I believe it or not, but that's where I stand.

Thank you, Renegade!

Just couldn't find the right words for what you finally pointed out.

Anyways, sometimes when thinking about life itself I find myself with scenarios like in The Matrix... what if you all, all I can see, feel and... whatever... what if this all is just one big simulation? What is real? IS there such a thing as death or is it just my file being taken out of the system?

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