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Posted by Jackson on Dec-17-2002 19:05:

1st set of decks

Hey
I got under �200 to spend on my 1st set of decks and a mixer, its gonna have to be Belt driven since i cant afford a direct drive. Which of these packages do u think i should go for from this list?

Numark TT 1600 & DM 905

2 x TT-1600 Multi directional belt drive turntables, 1x DM-905 Mixer with Mic Input, Plus a pair of HF-125 Headphones Slipmats cables and Carts. An Ideal starter pack.

Numark DJ in a Box Deck Package

2 x TT-1550 Multi directional belt drive turntables, 1x DM-950 Mixer with Mic and EQ, Plus a pair of HF-125 Headphones Slipmats cables and Carts. An Ideal starter pack.

Gemini XL-120 Deck Package

Complete DJ Starter Kit, Includes two Belt Drive XL-120 turntables, a Numark DM-905 mixer,a Pair of Numark HF-125 Headphones, Slipmatts, Carts and all cables.

Thanks for any input
Jackson

Posted by arj1o1 on Dec-17-2002 19:39:

first of all this should be in the dj booth forum

second: i think you could better wait till you have more money, belt driven sucks, you cannot sell them if you're sick of them nobody wants them buy direct drive and people are queueing to buy them (if they're Technics 1200)

Posted by Jackson on Dec-17-2002 20:13:

ok i have moved it to the Dj booth forum

Posted by Devbert on Dec-17-2002 22:28:

you will be sorry if you buy belt-driven decks, biggest mistake you could make. Start out with some decent deck and a shitty mixer. Invest in good decks because you can always resell them. Then if you get into it you can just upgrade the mixer.

Posted by JohnSmith on Dec-17-2002 23:23:

DON'T buy belt drive

you would be wise to check out this site:
http://www.recess.co.uk/basic.html

here's a quote, but do go check out the site, it will tell you all you need to know.

quote:
Belt Driven decks suck. This isn't from a "To be a Dj you must have Technics" point of view. It's the truth. Belt-Driven decks suck. You'll hear people telling you that they're using Belt-Driven decks, and there's nothing wrong with them, "Oh yeah, I've had mine for years, can do anything on them, scratch, mix, cook, play frisbee, solve the worlds debt and hunger problems...." Fine. If you want to listen to them rather than me, then I'm not going to get all fussed and bothered about it, but PLEASE, stop asking me if it's OK to use Belt-Driven decks, then bugging me about it for two weeks, ignoring what I say, then sending me a mail two months later saying "Yeah, you were right, they suck. How can I make them better?" At which point, I just hit the delete button. It's the only thing I'm a wanker about. This is something I feel passionate about, that belt-driven decks are for people who either a) Aren't serious about Dj'ing, b) are only going to use them for a couple of months as a test to see if they're going to like Dji'ng, or c) Think with their wallets instead of thier heads.

Posted by YellowG555 on Dec-18-2002 13:30:

I bought a starter kit with belt-driven tables when I first started out. I thought with my wallet, and that was a bad decision. Let me tell you from experience...belt-driven tables SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK SUCK!!!! Sure, people say once u get accustomed to belt-driven tables it'll be easier to spin on direct drive tables...if you can ever get used to them.

Try cue'ing up songs when there's a 2-3 second delay from the time your finger releases the platter to when it actually starts spinning at the right speed. YOU CAN'T!!! The torque cannot even begin to compare to direct drive tables. Direct drives like the Technics have almost no delay reaching full speed from a dead stop.

The best thing u can do for urself is to buy used 1200s or better yet, new ones. You can't go wrong with them, and if u decide it's not the thing for u, u can just resell them for nearly what you paid for them. The same can't be said with belt-driven decks.

Posted by Great Outdoors on Dec-18-2002 18:48:

DO NOT BUY BELT DRIVES!! If you haven't got the money yet, SAVE!!

Posted by Jackson on Dec-18-2002 19:26:

I dont think i can afford to save up that much, im only 16!
I was thinkin maybe gettin A pair of Citronic PD-1's and a Citronic CDM5:2 Mixer...Anygood?
I know Technics are the best, but i just cant afford that much!

Posted by JohnSmith on Dec-18-2002 19:35:

NO! those are belt drive, don't get belt drives, haven't you been listening?

just don't, they are useless. whether or not that's all you can afford doesn't matter.

if you can't afford direct drive decks, then you can't afford to DJ.
you don't neccesarily NEED techs, but they are reccomended.

go to www.recess.co.uk and check it out, you will learn much.

Posted by Devbert on Dec-18-2002 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
NO! those are belt drive, don't get belt drives, haven't you been listening?

Hehehe, johnsmiths gettin pissed off!

Posted by JohnSmith on Dec-18-2002 20:30:

johnsmith's havin a bad day.

Posted by Jackson on Dec-18-2002 20:33:

quote:
NO! those are belt drive, don't get belt drives, haven't you been listening?

Proof that they are not belt drives!!!

Check that out John Smith

Posted by JohnSmith on Dec-18-2002 21:31:

oh.. hmm.. i just did a search on google for them, and the first two links came up saying that they were belt driven. maybe they are wrong? maybe PD1, and PD-1 are not the same thing? i don't know here's the link.

http://www.directdistributionsales.com/itm00947.htm

i don't care, get em if you want to.

either you'll love DJing, and will want techs, or you'll hate DJing and will not want these.

either way, whatever you pay for these is money down the toilet.

Posted by Acid John on Dec-19-2002 01:41:

im 13 and i got direct drives! (numark tt-100s)

heres what i recommend. focus all ur avaliable cash on buying tts...before u kno it you will have enough to buy decent decks

Posted by Arsalan on Dec-19-2002 05:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Acid John
im 13 and i got direct drives! (numark tt-100s)

heres what i recommend. focus all ur avaliable cash on buying tts...before u kno it you will have enough to buy decent decks

your tables are better then me !! i hope your motor burns

im jking

Posted by DJ Kibon on Dec-21-2002 06:43:

...

...I feel for you, particularly because I'm going through the whole agonizing process right now myself.

I had a chance to check out the brand new Numark TT-X1s today, and they are saweeeet. I was super impressed with their solid feel, and they have incredibly rapid start/stop. The store I was at is getting some TT-200s in on Monday, so I'll be heading down there again to check them out.

I'm not sure I can quite stretch my budget to a pair of Technics/Num TT-X1s, but a pair of TT-200s is in the bag, so long as I'm impressed enough with the overall build quality.

Here's a review of the TT-200s btw, the same site trashed the TT-100s a year before, but like the new 200 model.

http://www.i-dj.co.uk/reviews/reviewpage.php3?ID=64

Good luck, I know the thinking about this is starting to getting annoying for me as well.

Posted by Shad0wmaster on Dec-22-2002 04:57:

ARGH stay the hell away from belt drives, you'll be sorry if u dont! belt drives lick balls.

if you insist on cheap decks (as did i when i got my 1st) then atleast get direct drive!! my 1st decks were stanton str8-60s, $200 USD each. for beginner tt's they were a fine investment.