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Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Dec-18-2002 07:14:

Some beats for ya...

Well I've been posting here forever or so it seems... never really shared any music with yall. if you've read my posts you know i like the harder variety of 4/4...

so im trying to break down my natural instinct against playing well when the minidisc deck is rolling. so i'm recording everything now until that instinct goes away. this is certainly not my best work, i basically got home from work.. got tempted to take a nap.. but decided to spin so i wouldnt nap... i kicked on the decks started the MD box and picked tracks as i went.

feedback is cool.. just dont flame me too hard I'll post an actual CD length planned demo when that happens I just figured i'd share some tracks with you.. and take advantage of some of the bandwidth i pay for too !

i wish i had played this set on the ortofons... I didnt think it'd be worth much so I kept the shure's on the decks which are now my practice cartridges.. the ortofons seem to make 4/4 beats match tighter and have much cleaner high frequency response.

but the shure M44G's are still dope - they hold the groove during cueing SO much better than the ortofons...

http://nrvate.com/mix/1218.mp3

cheers!


Posted by Arsalan on Dec-18-2002 09:38:

if i don't ask this someone will so what the heck:

Tracklist ?


btw i love the matrix dialoug.


Posted by Arsalan on Dec-18-2002 09:38:

if i don't ask this someone will so what the heck:

Tracklist ?


btw i love the matrix intro.


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Dec-18-2002 15:49:

I really should have put the records down in a pile in the order the were dropped.

I honestly didnt plan or note the order of and which tracks i dropped. I'll go back over it when I get back home and try to make a list. I should do this anyways.. so i will post it.

Matrix intro? which one was that? I'm not familiar with that movie.

One of the tracks had samples from snatched... "and now... we're fuct!" i love that track.. it's just dope.

cheers!


Posted by b i n k u n on Dec-18-2002 17:44:

think u might wanna move this to the amateur dj/producer forum...

but since i'm at it, i'll post some comments. (btw, the matrix intro that DJ Arsalan was referring to was your first song, if u haven't seen the movie, u definitely should!)

on transitions, your beatmatching is pretty spot on, i'm not listening from my monitors straight on so i can't hear any phasing, but at least there ain't too much of a beat drift or anything.

wut bpm/pitch are you at? my internal meter might be a lil' off cuz i just woke up, but it seems u are going a teeny bit slow for hard house stuff.

on mixing, i would suggest bringing in the track you are mixing into a lil' early, as some transitions seem to die off in energy when it's just left with the main intro beats. i like giving the crowd more then just beats to hang on to, y'kno wut i mean? doing itonce or twice is fine, but not too often.

(the 13th minute mark has some sick breakbeats. did u add to that?)

some last notes, i like making hard cuts when mixing hard house, throwing in sections from other tracks to "tease" the crowd, playing more with eqs and bass drops, it's much more fun. sometimes hard house is too straight on, so mix it up a lil'.

hope this helped. =)


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Dec-18-2002 17:59:

yea.. the beatmatching was decent on that set.. i was actually working the pitch in the transitions on most the set too.. im getting better at that.

agreed on the lack of energy in some of the transitions.. i know exactly what you are saying, and cringed as I made those... and yea, you are right.. bring the track in earlier.

most those transitions were made halfway into the track, the usual center breakdown of the vinyl... and into the next track.. so i was late a bit here and there, mainly because i was trying to mix faster than i should have. definitly a good point

I dont have a BPM counter.. now idea.. i guess i could check in atomixmp3 and get the BPM from the MP3.. however, most these tracks were actually played well into the plus ranges, like plus 6.

It's not really hardhouse... most these tracks are considered HardDance... which is basically slower hardhouse blended with trancey elements.. a few of them being considered NUNRG... I dont play alot of hardhouse.. most HH is about 10bpm faster than these tracks, and certainly more agressive. i think most these records are about 140-144bpm at zeroed pitch.

the breaks at the 13min mark are from fallen angel & titchy bitch's track "ghetto pimp".. they are mad phat, huh? the second rift of breaks in that track i started playing with.. i matched 4/4 beats of the next track against the breakbeats of ghetto pimp, and started cutting back and forth between the basslines using the EQ's - breaks, 44, breaks, 44, breaks again, back to 44, breakdown, cut. that was fun

thanks for the input


Posted by xXxAzNrAvErxXx on Dec-18-2002 22:58:

Just listened to ur set...definately different than the usual uplifting trance I spin..The beatchmatching was pretty good and I definately will try ur breakbeat into 4/4 and back trick...tight!
Matrix was a really cool movie..should definately check it out.


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Dec-19-2002 03:23:

yes.. i do need to watch the matrix.. it would be about time.


Posted by b i n k u n on Dec-19-2002 04:52:

quote:
Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2

It's not really hardhouse... most these tracks are considered HardDance... which is basically slower hardhouse blended with trancey elements.. a few of them being considered NUNRG... I dont play alot of hardhouse.. most HH is about 10bpm faster than these tracks, and certainly more agressive. i think most these records are about 140-144bpm at zeroed pitch.


ahhh i see. just listenin' to the kick, i thot it was more hard-housey type stuff. that would explain me thinking it was a bit slow.


Posted by spike_boy69 on Dec-20-2002 12:12:

how do i get to listen to it???? when i click on it, i just get a white page and hear this pinging sound and nothing happens


Posted by amdmaxx on Dec-21-2002 01:41:

right click, save as..

quote:
Originally posted by spike_boy69
how do i get to listen to it???? when i click on it, i just get a white page and hear this pinging sound and nothing happens



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