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Posted by Fire999 on Dec-19-2002 22:23:

Street Racing & Consequences......*Sad But True*

This was taken from another forum. The author is writing in first person. Note: "Disturbing, graphical and REAL Story"

[QUOTE]
For all the idiots that race on occupied streets!!
From the [H]ard Forum

By Far Side
Listen up...

Tonight was one of the most shocking nights I have ever had. Some of you may know I'm a volunteer firefighter. I don't get to ride in the cool fire-truck, I'm stuck driving a 99 F-250 "Emergency Response Team" truck (carries the other diver and I and all of the medical/diving/fire/EMS equipment). Anyway we were on our way back from a small kitchen fire when we got behind a semi ricey Eclipse GS-X a pretty ricey Accord V6 and a Camaro RS (this is on a 4 lane road). Now the ****ers had been racing each other light to light and swerving past all slower traffic. So once we got behind them we were going to radio in their plates but before we could the light turned green and off they went.

About maybe a quarter mile ahead was a mini-van (Dodge I beleive) that had turned the way they were going. The Accord in the far right lane was being blocked by the mini van so decided to cut off on the shoulder and attempt to pass the van. Well the rumble strip sort of pulled the car further to the right more the he expected I guess and he cut back left throwing himself infront of the mini-van and Camaro. The 3 racers had to be doing about 80 by now, but the Accord went sideways into the van and then continued on into the Camaro and then into the cement median doing 83 (what the spedo was stuck at we later found). The van ended up rolling because it tried to cut and miss the accord as it hit it.

When we got up to the scene I almost lost my dinner. I've seen gun shot victims, scraped people off railraod tracks, you name it I've probably seen it but this I just couldn't handle. I ran to the Accord first to see what was there. The driver went through the windshield and into the cement median, what was left of his skull was now somewhere compounded into his shoulders and the median. The passanger was a very beautiful girl about my age (19) whos arm was compound fractured beyond physical recognition, and ears were bleeding like crazy. No seat belt either. (Airbags were both removed because of the momo wheel and "engine management consol" on the passanger side) She had some apparent head injury from the windsheild and was either uncounsious or dead. Nothing I could really do in that car at the time.

I ran over to the Camaro to see what was up there. The guy maye 25 or so was ok. Had his seat belt on and everything. I jsut screamed at him to stay in the car until te cops came.

Off in the distance the ****ing Eclipse didn't even stop to see what happened. He fled a fast as his car could go.

Just as I noticed the eclipse, my partner who radio'ed for help and then ran over to van screamed "Chris get the **** over here". This is where I almost lost it. The van on its side held a mother and 2 children, none which were responsive. I crawled into the middle window where I thought the yougest child was. She had to be maybe 4 at the oldest. No seat belt. Was thrown into the window when it rolled then into the pavement I would have imagined. Her head had a rather obvious dent in it BUT she was breathing. I pulled her through the window.

In the passanger seat was a younger boy maybe 10 whos arm was crushed under the tipped over van. It later had to be amputated but he will live do the the 7 minutes of CPR that we did.

The mother was the only one with her seat belt on, the airbag broke her nose and somehow knocker her out. But she is fine. Was concious by the time we got her son breathing again.

The ****er in the Camaro got cuffed and taken away. The girl in the Accord was airlifted away. The young girl in the van later died tonight/this morning from massive head trauma. The driver of the accord obviously died of the same. The boy in the van will live as well, just one arm short.

Sorry about the bad grammer, I'm still in shock. I doubt I'll get much sleep tonight.

But for you *******s that like to pull this **** on occupied roads please PLEASE PLEASE take it to the track. Save your life and someone elses. I'm done ranting now. For those that read this, thanks.

F999


Posted by Ste on Dec-19-2002 22:26:

stupid ****s, deserved to die.


Posted by Az on Dec-19-2002 22:33:

couldn't be arsed to read all that......
but a lad i know watched a street race, he got hit by one of the cars, and he's completely fucked up, he'll never walk again, he can only just speak.....


Posted by Fire999 on Dec-19-2002 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer
stupid ****s, deserved to die.


Indeed.....but that young girl, the passengers in the van do not deserve that. How would you feel if some reckless dude took your daughter out on a speeding heist and turns out that she died in the hands of some punk? I feel for all that suffer any vehicular mishap but these young people need to be educated on the dangers of street racing....it usually takes a death or two to make people realise that they are not getting anywhere any faster, nor are they going to ever see their ego rise beyond their cranium.

Innocent lives get taken away from a moment of dare....i guess somethings will never change.....nuff said

F999


Posted by dj_mdma on Dec-19-2002 23:09:

To be honest, these idiots, were not wearing seat belts, so what do u expect?! Everyone knows that you are more likely to survive with a seatbelt. From what i;ve read, if u go side on into something, u will end up with some pretty bad limb injuries, and u will most probably break your neck due to the sudden sideways impact. the deaths occured from carelessness, rather than directly from the street racers actions.


Posted by IronDragon on Dec-20-2002 00:33:

Speaking as fan of street racing, I completely agree. Races should NEVER be held ANYWHERE where others may be involved. Do take it to the track or at the very least block off whatever section of whatever road you happen to want to race at.


Posted by Ste on Dec-20-2002 00:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Fire999
Indeed.....but that young girl, the passengers in the van do not deserve that. How would you feel if some reckless dude took your daughter out on a speeding heist and turns out that she died in the hands of some punk? I feel for all that suffer any vehicular mishap but these young people need to be educated on the dangers of street racing....it usually takes a death or two to make people realise that they are not getting anywhere any faster, nor are they going to ever see their ego rise beyond their cranium.

Innocent lives get taken away from a moment of dare....i guess somethings will never change.....nuff said

F999



was the girl forced to go in that car and forced to not wear her seat belt while she tried to persuade the driver not to race?

i think not.

enough said.


Posted by imprt2nr on Dec-20-2002 01:22:

wtf were this kids racing on an occupied street for?! im a "racer" but hell, im smart enough to do it where there is absolutely nobody around, not on some street with other people ahead of me... why werent they wearing seatbelts?!?! i put in racing seats with a 4 point seatbelt system in my car, just so i can be safer. if your gonna race, race in an industrial zone at night, since theres nobody around there at that time. i also agree you should block of the area where you are gonna run, its safer! that story is very unfortunate, and i feel horrible for the young lives that were lost


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Dec-20-2002 01:33:

Can't believe the guy actually removed airbags to put in engine managment console...


Posted by arj1o1 on Dec-20-2002 07:17:

they deserve too, why go streetracing on a occupied street?


Posted by bassaholix on Dec-20-2002 07:54:

Hello!

Sad story but too often true...

why are dickhead like that still alive i do not know... im sure that girl and the other ppl will never be the same.. the only shame here is the funeral costs...


Sorry i may have repeated.. to those who hinted by now.. but this is the 2nd death post 2day..


Posted by BacardiMan on Dec-20-2002 22:07:

what happend to the person in the Eclipse GS-X ? did he got away?


Posted by Technaut on Dec-20-2002 22:22:

i was in a bad car crash once whilst racing was in a Cavi Sri 130

i wasnt hurt bad but the driver had broken ribs and a broken jaw, thank fuck i was okay though.


Posted by Dmatrox on Dec-20-2002 23:10:

im shocked, i feel sad and sorry for the family in the van

damn racers.!

quote:
wtf were this kids racing on an occupied street for?! im a "racer" but hell, im smart enough to do it where there is absolutely nobody around, not on some street with other people ahead of me... why werent they wearing seatbelts?!?! i put in racing seats with a 4 point seatbelt system in my car, just so i can be safer. if your gonna race, race in an industrial zone at night, since theres nobody around there at that time. i also agree you should block of the area where you are gonna run, its safer! that story is very unfortunate, and i feel horrible for the young lives that were lost


thats a good idea, but you have to agree it cant be 100% effective against people who are walking right...

so what happened to the eclipse?


Posted by mndeg on Dec-21-2002 04:35:

stupid people end up dying early one way or another (the people racing on the street)


Posted by gOOD-tRiP on Dec-21-2002 08:20:

That driver in the Accord V6 is a F*ucking Moron. First of all his car is a slow ass piece of sh*it and hes using up all his money on useless engine management crap and buying a momo steering wheel for his 3 ton car. Second he is not wearing a seatbelt without an airbag. Third obviously this guy does not know how to drive and handle his heavy ass car around. this guy shouldnt even be driving. what kindve girl gets into a car like this anyway. wanna-be racer


Posted by k.k.d. on Dec-21-2002 08:52:

quote:
That driver in the Accord V6 is a F*ucking Moron.


True... People causing other people's casualties by their stupidity kinda diserve to die ;(

quote:
First of all his car is a slow ass piece of sh*it and hes using up all his money on useless engine management crap and buying a momo steering wheel for his 3 ton car.


An stock V6 1998-2002 Accord is weighting just over 1 ton and is a very fast car in its class (probably much faster whatever you drive)... Plus, that "ricer" had it moded out, etc... So yeah...


Posted by Thor on Dec-21-2002 08:57:

Dunno

What's frustrating is that you can usually get access to race circuits in or near most major cities.

If people want so badly to race, why not spend the effort to do it in a safe enviornment where your car has to pass certain standards to race...

Silly EGO shit is all.. Hey look at my car, its fast.. My daddy gave me $20,000 to make my car cool, hehe look at me as I die.

When will morons learn its not how you impress people that matters, its MUCH more important to be a good fucking person with some brains who cares more about living a good life than being a stupid fool who wants to impress total strangers....

Oooooooh look at me, my fancy car.. Like that matters at all when you are lying on your deathbed...


Posted by Trickle on Dec-21-2002 21:56:

This is just dumb. Street racing is more worthless then a slug that can't move. I race my car, but I race it where it's legal. I don't understand why it's so hard for these other morons to race at a TRACK. So what if you have to drive 3 hours to get to it. Most of these idiots drive around in their car thinking they're cool trying to impress the opposite sex, which they really are not doing. Just making a complete moron of themselves. But they drive around for hours. Why not use those miles and go to a track, same with gas. I don't understand crusing or street racing, I have never done it, nor will I ever. I go to local cruise places, but I park my car and leave it. No point in showing it off. I hate doing that. I could careless if my car is better then someonoe elses. But there's always someone better. If killing yourself in a street race isnt enough to get you to stop. Why not think of the other people that could be killed?


Posted by Trickle on Dec-21-2002 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by k.k.d.
True... People causing other people's casualties by their stupidity kinda diserve to die ;(



An stock V6 1998-2002 Accord is weighting just over 1 ton and is a very fast car in its class (probably much faster whatever you drive)... Plus, that "ricer" had it moded out, etc... So yeah...

So to you just over a ton is 3000 lbs? I guess. Also, the 2002 with the 3.0L makes like 200 horse power. By far not that great. And with a 3000lbs weight, I would say a mid 15 in the 1/4 at about 94mph.


Posted by gOOD-tRiP on Jan-02-2003 02:59:

quote:
Originally posted by k.k.d.
True... People causing other people's casualties by their stupidity kinda diserve to die ;(



An stock V6 1998-2002 Accord is weighting just over 1 ton and is a very fast car in its class (probably much faster whatever you drive)... Plus, that "ricer" had it moded out, etc... So yeah...


i dont know what car you drive but there are not many street cars on the road today that are around 1000lbs. And i do know about Accords because my freind has one. And his car is not faster then what i drive, which is a integra GSR. also its true, the accord is not 3000lbs... its 3329lbs. and the quarter mile on this tank is 16.1

SOURCE

jsut to clarify... thanks


Posted by ftnb on Jan-31-2003 04:13:

Thumbs down sickos

first off, any of you freaks who are talking about 'cars' at this moment are completely fucking sick, cold-hearted mother******s, and i hope karma catches up to your asses. no joke either, thats some serious business and you guys are here blaming her for not wearing a fucking seatbelt? as if the situation was under her control?? FUCK YOU, did you not see her?? IT WAS not her fault, it does not matter that she was not wearing a godamn seatbelt, because even if she was she still would have gotten FUCKEDUP. If you are going to race, keep it to a godamn track, because that is where at least your dumb-ass will die if you crash, and not somebody elses. sick fucks, i cant believe some of the people on this site.
im out, no point in trying to persuade anybody here, its just a lesson in futility.


Posted by drizzt81 on Jan-31-2003 08:28:

jo fire999.. that story was soo nastily graphic.. omfg.. i have this image in my head.. *yuck*

oh and to all the people, who are now starting to stereotype _ALL_ racers as being retards.. and deserving to die, please thing twice. I am not a racer but i think that there are many different people who race cars -even on streets- as there are different people interested in everything.

I agree, racing on an occupied street is _NOT_ the smartest thing i have ever heard of, but we -who demand tolerance- should not start creating stereotypes based on ONE story, just as we wich that people don't create stereotype about trance/ techno lovers based on a bad example that gets publizised.


Posted by drizzt81 on Jan-31-2003 08:47:

Re: sickos

quote:
Originally posted by ftnb
thats some serious business and you guys are here blaming her for not wearing a fucking seatbelt? as if the situation was under her control?? FUCK YOU, did you not see her?? IT WAS not her fault, it does not matter that she was not wearing a godamn seatbelt, because even if she was she still would have gotten FUCKEDUP.


sorry. maybe that is an attitude thing, but many people do believe in choice.
It was HER choice to enter the vehicle. It was her choice to drive with that person. Now, I am not saying that she might not have known the driver well enough so that it was a bad judgement call. Nonetheless, as it was described earlier, the racing had been going on for a couple of sets of lights and i guess, she had plenty of time to either leave the car of buckle up.
Whether of not she would have been 'f'd up' regardless is not my call to make. i do not know enough about that accident to say anything in particular, but from the knowledge that i have been fed over the years, i believe to know that a person is usually safer with a seatbelt than without.

I am not saying that she deserved to die. I am in no position to make that call for anyone. I feel somewhat sorry for her, then again, I may suggest that in the end, the reason these people, not the passengers of the van, but the racers and their passengers, died, was natural selection. U need to face the consequences of your actions.

I do feel sorry for these people, but they had a choice. The 20K children that die in 3rd world countries on a daily basis do not. Since I am not shedding tears for them, you will not see me shedding tears for these people, that fell viction to their own device.


Posted by Spad on Jan-31-2003 12:15:

quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81

I agree, racing on an occupied street is _NOT_ the smartest thing i have ever heard of, but we -who demand tolerance- should not start creating stereotypes based on ONE story, just as we wich that people don't create stereotype about trance/ techno lovers based on a bad example that gets publizised.


I think the stereotype is valid in this situation, as I can't think of a single cicumstance where racing cars in a public place isn't endangering others.

I explained my reasons in the other post, but you might as well be saying to me not to stereotype people who set fire to petrol stations.


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