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My disgust towards the American Immigration

Today, my sister and my brother were supposed to go to Los Angeles from Toronto until the immigration officer noticed her place of birth was Tehran, Iran. From here, they brought my sister into an interrogation room where she waited a good hour until questions began. Ultimately, she missed her flight over studpid questions that could have been answered at the desk as she was boarding the flight,,, but no,, the immigration services finds it right to racially profile, and discriminate people based on where they were born as a precaution for weeding out what they consider terrorists. At some points,, the immigration officers couldnt even answer questions my sister gave them....they were completely dumbfounded and knew what they were participating in was wrong and unethical. What if my sister had to go to a wedding, or an important business meeting? A jamaican woman who even worked at the airport told us that it was something all Jamaicans had to go through as well. This is truly very inconsiderate on behalf of the American government....and in a way.... it disgusts me on an extreme level.

There is so much anger in me right now that it is hard to phrase in words... and this is all due to the ignorance and prejudice that may people have to face. I would would thiink that racial discrimination executed on a federal level would have been a thing of the past, but sadly, we live in the year 2002 and this still occurs.

What are your opinions on this?

I would espescially like to see responses from the Americans on this board to the unjust racial profiling that has been issued in Airports this passed year on Koreans, Arabs, Iranians, south Asians and even some Europeans.

The U.S. department of immigration essentially consists of relatively unintelligent humans enforcing their misinterpretations of already unjust laws. The vast majority of the educated public does not support these policies, and we are trying to have them retracted (actually first we're concentrating on things not getting worse).

I've had to travel by air a lot in the past year, and I haven't personally seen anything that appeared to be racial profiling. In fact, what I have observed is that the people the airport security personnel seem most likely to target are white females aged 16-24 (that is, besides, of course, me). However, I do not doubt that there are many gross injustices taking place, and I am deeply disturbed by them.

Regards,

Arbiter

I guess they'll say that it's better to be safe than sorry, but still, it seems a little ott, I guess though they have to be seen to be doing something even if its not fair

I agree ... this incident is reminiscent of the Japanese detention camps of WW2. Shame on us for reliving the past and giivng justification for it. It wasn't right then, not now, and not in the future.

It's not justifiable on any level. I'm disgusted at my country, and feel for your sister. I too have been in a similar situation, in which I was singled out for being born an Israeli, I know it was officially a random check, but I overheard one official tell another something about me being israeli, I thought it was esspecially odd considering I'd lived in the U.s for 13 of the 16 years I've been alive, and wasnt even carrying a cary on.

home of the brave , land of the free , that's what a country says knowing the fact that they built it on the indian genocide and the black racial segregation , and many horrible things outside the american continent , shame shame shame ...

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Originally posted by fastmp3 home of the brave , land of the free , that's what a country says knowing the fact that they built it on the indian genocide and the black racial segregation , and many horrible things outside the american continent , shame shame shame ...

Well its certantly brave of us to do such things, and flaunt our power does that count towards home of the brave?

lol home of the tyrant you mean

anyway i have a couple of friends (lots of TAs) in the US i wished to visit but now i won't bother putting my feet in there ...

DIE OPPRESSIVE AMERICAN PIG DOGS

The strange thing is that with those kind of measures accomplish what terrorist are trying to do: create panic, paranoia, in short, to disrupt normal life in America.

I don't understand how they don't realise this.

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Originally posted by Stunt The strange thing is that with those kind of measures accomplish what terrorist are trying to do: create panic, paranoia, in short, to disrupt normal life in America. I don't understand how they don't realise this.

They do, and they don't care. They also know theyre racially profiling people, but they dont care about that either, national security is a good excuse for *everything*

im for racial profiling but im also for common sense. i mean come on some of the cases i hear coming out of airport security (like Cyprus King's) are absolutely absurd and plain dumb.

I think this is quite disgracefull. This racial profiling nonsense is just going to create alot more inconvenience and it's going to slow down business operations dramtically.

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[QUOTEThere is so much anger in me right now that it is hard to phrase in words... and this is all due to the ignorance and prejudice that may people have to face. I would would thiink that racial discrimination executed on a federal level would have been a thing of the past, but sadly, we live in the year 2002 and this still occurs.
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Its life, get over it.

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Its life, get over it.

Its easier said than done. Would you tell a black person to "get over it" as they remember their enslaved ancestors? I dont think so.

You gotta realize that this is one big fucking dilemma. Security..Terrorism...the policy of fighting it is a constant process of choosing the lesser evil. Well in fact politics in general is but in this case it directly affects us, the normal population.
I think we all agree that Terrorism is a threat and must be fought, the way it has to be done must be an acceptable path between "the means justify the ends" and "hoping nothing will happen".
Please consider its complexity....(which of course dont justify such incidents..I would merely call this a sort of "collateral damage" in the war)

Yeah ok, i understand. But the strange thing is they seem to want to hold on to the idea that the grass is greener over at their side but at the same time they seem to be poisoning that same grass.

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someone: Its life, get over it. Originally posted by Cyrus King Its easier said than done. Would you tell a black person to "get over it" as they remember their enslaved ancestors? I dont think so.

you have to get over the 'checkpoints' everyone has to suffer through them and they all sux

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Originally posted by Yoepus you have to get over the 'checkpoints' everyone has to suffer through them and they all sux

But that isnt my point.. my point is that there are even more "check points" for certain groups of people... singling them out based on their race.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Its easier said than done. Would you tell a black person to "get over it" as they remember their enslaved ancestors? I dont think so.

Yes. Just as we don't punish people for the crimes of their ancestors, people don't deserve jack shit worth of sympathy for the suffering of their ancestors. I'm of Native American descent and I don't feel the need to bitch and whine about the horrible things that were done to my people. If I did, then "get over it" would be an appropriate response.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Yes. Just as we don't punish people for the crimes of their ancestors, people don't deserve jack shit worth of sympathy for the suffering of their ancestors. I'm of Native American descent and I don't feel the need to bitch and whine about the horrible things that were done to my people. If I did, then "get over it" would be an appropriate response.

Obviously you dont have any concept of respect. Im not saying people deserve certain things becuase of ancestral oppression... but an aknowledgement and respect of the issue should be taken into consideration.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Obviously you dont have any concept of respect. Im not saying people deserve certain things becuase of ancestral oppression... but an aknowledgement and respect of the issue should be taken into consideration.

Respect is meaningless if it is not earned.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Respect is meaningless if it is not earned.

I agree, for me as a Jew, I don't want sympathy or respect for what my grandparents went through. I just want the incident to be remembered so a similar fate will not befall others.

I don't think that racial profiling in airports is bad - most terrorist are form a middle eastern orgin. However, most aren't girls and don't travel in families.

As a foriegner, I to have had my fair share of problem with the INS/customs/airport security. I don't think this is unfair. I am not a US citizen and appreicate the fact that despite that I am able to live here.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Respect is meaningless if it is not earned.

Look at the context in which respect was written in.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Look at the context in which respect was written in.

There's a big difference between acknowledging and respecting something that occurred in the past and allowing it to proliferate its negative effects by affecting an overcompensation in the present. That isn't respect, that's just being politically correct, which in reality is the opposite of respect, because it is a lie.

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