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Does Any-1 Like The Old Trance Better Than The New??? What I mean by this is the trance that came out between 97-98, the trance tracks like Lustral - Everytime, Fabiola - New Years Day, Franchino - 999, Anomaly - Calling your name, Push - Univesal Nation, Taste Expierience - Summersalt.... For me I think the reason I really like listening to those tracks are because it brings back alot of memories of when I started listening to trance.. For some reason I think those tracks are better produced than the ones that have been comming out since the end of 1999-2000... The lustral - Everytime Naline & Kane mix does it for me...
Well youv'e got a point there...I also love those tunes but I don't think its because the new ones are bad - its more because the old ones turn into a classic favorite sounds and the good new ones will be that way in a year...
And about the produce you mentioned I think the new ones produced much better and professionally - take for example
Cosmicman-I love you
Cosmican is new producer and the produce of this track is great and very professional for a new one... I think in a couple of month he turn into a supreme one...
Well only my opinion...
well jay-d, i have ta say yes to a certain extent cause i've always been more of an uplifting/epic/melodic trancer than progressive. don't get me wrong, i like prog too but uplifting/epic/melodic is what i lean towards. sure there are still some pretty good trackz comin' out these days, but it doesn't come close to the amount of quality trackz that came out a few years ago.
there are some real badass new tracks ..and there well always be real awesome new tracks coming out.. but to me NOTHING beats the oldie's man... like lange - i believe and ayla stuff... thats just unbeatable to me. well thats the way i see it.
I sooo like old trance better!!!!
I haven't liked anything new recently... I dunno why... I still love all the oldies tho...
makes no sense...
latez...
gotta love insigma - open your eyes (insigma mix), photon project - illumination, and cosmicman - i love you (v1.4 new version), the digital blonde - legato though. those are pretty new.
I really loved the SOund of 99.... Like Matt Darey - Liberation, Lost Witness - Red Sun Risiing, Gouryella - Gouryella, System F - OUt of the blue, Agnelli & Nelson - Everyday.... But whats good with trance is that it always progresses..and changes..im glad its doing this because people will not get tired of one style ..... if every song sounded similar to Gouyella - Gouryella.... most of you would think ohh wow that would be great ...but in honesty i probably woul dget tired of itpretty fast....... 2001 is very Progressive year....Trance is in a progressive stage...and i beleive it will stay that way for year or so..till a dominate style will come out...for example the dominate style of 99 - 2000 was teh Uplifting/epic style of tracks..... I love new and old....but tunes that are older always touch people more then the newer ones because of the memories behind them =)
I have been listening to Trance since 94 and I still think that Trance is get better and better , perhaps you think the older ones are better is because that is what got you into Trance in the first place .
im pretty new to the scene .. early 2k was the start for me so i got most of the good 99 stuff but its a lil too slow and progressive .. i need more uplifting and surprising
i love trance... both old and new...
the other day i was just fucking around in traktor, mixing some stuff up... and asked my friend if gouryella-tenshi got slower at the end because i couldnt get it to stay beat-matched for shit towards the end... and i got the reply "dude... stop listening to old trance"
kinda bugs me... a good track is a good track... no matter what the release date is...
i love hearing mixes with a lot of new shit and even some old stuff...
i mean really... has the crowd ever not gone fucking crazy when pvd spins for an angel?
Older trance for me is always going to be played, never to be replaced with the new stuff. I still crank and out and boogy my ass of to cafe del mar, for an angel, binary finary, lustral, motorcraft, etc etc...Now though I gotta say the new tunes get their play time aswell. Tracks these days cosmicman-i luv u (nice pick lynx,lucky 
) maria rubia-say it plus many more.
Gotta luv the old but also appreciate the new. You'll never know when you'll miss another for an angel or cafe del mar.
peace
phAze
I left these out....
Viagra - Secrets
Tekara - Breath in you (Lost Tribe Mix)
Kamaya Painters - Endless Wave
Hidden Sound System - I Know
Lost Tribe - Gamemaster (Signum Mix)
Fragma - Toca Me (Original)
Alice Deejay - Better Off Alone (Dumonde & Signum Mixes)
Art Of Trance - Madagascar (Ferry Corsten Mix)
Oliver Lieb - Subraumstimulation (John Johnson Mix)
Those are other songs that I could think of relating to this topic....
some of the older stuff is better in my view, it seems more uplifting and happy.....whereas dark moody trance is becoming *hip* these days......it's all good, as long as they continue making all kinds, shouldn't ever get boring...
>JM<
yep i get the same feeling here too. i am much more fond of the older tunes than the new ones. not that i think the new ones are bad or anything, but it just didn't hit me in the same way as the older trance did. i think how i would describe it is that most of the older trance really took me on a journey, so to speak. the trance nowadays, with the exception of a few tracks, hardly does that for me now. i guess thats why sometimes i get a little thrilled when a DJ like PvD or Tiesto etc...throws an oldie into the mix.
Kamaya Painters - Endless Wave
Fire & Ice - Out of Darkness
Cafe Del Mar - Energy 52 (Three 'n One Remix)
BBE - Seven days and one week
What a Classics.......
I have noticed that the tracks these days are sounding more and more progressive. I started listening to trance music back in late 1998 and I was hooked on stuff from Ayla, Tilt, and Lange but now , when I hear that stuff, it kinda bores me (I suppose listening to it 100+ times will do that) and there are only a few classics that really affect me today. Stuff like, Gouryella : Wallhalla, Tilt : Invisible, Rapid Eye : Never Going Back. I have grown to like the direction trance is moving in and I doubt we'll ever see a complete loss of uplifting melodic trance.. It would just be too depressing and we'd have a lot of suicides out there. Check out some of the latest sets from PVD and Tiesto and you'll notice a nice mix of progressive tunes, hardhouse floorfillers and sweet melodic trance. You can't go wrong with a PVD set! (except the one he did at Mayday 2001 was really wonked). That's the beauty of trance, you can go through such a range of emotions.. Try saying that about Rap , Hip Hop, Rock and Roll and some of the other krap we have to listen to in North America. Living in western CAnada, there are absolutely NO stations that play trance and if I didn't have my collection of mp3s and my CD player, I'd go insane!! Everytime someone turns on a local radio station I just want to scream.. How can people listen to this krap!!?!
I fuckin love the newer stuff, with the prog feel cant get enough of the stuff.. but im a firm beleiver that they dont make uplifting/melodic trance like they used to... 98 and 99 were awesome years fr these.. u simply cant beat art of trance - madagascar (pulser mix) & gouryella.. stuff like that, but now a few years on they are still tryin to make the same sound.. and peepz iz gettin bored of it. thus the switch to progressive (just listen to tiesto now..)
peace
Holy krow! what exactly are you trying to do in that animated picture. It looks like you're trying to capture some imaginary animal.
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| Originally posted by Gooseman Holy krow! what exactly are you trying to do in that animated picture. It looks like you're trying to capture some imaginary animal. |
Check out the thread in the chill out room for more info on that one...
theres differences between older more epic trance, than the current trance scene..
to me.. the 97-98 trance is the floaty more dreamy side of things... whereas it because very uplifting and powerful throughout 2000.. then now its heading progressive.. ack that word.. but yea..
i personally like trance 98-early 00 =p
Progressive..isnt a certain type of sound or anything when you really look at it every style of trance was progressive one time or the other...well a form of it...Progressive is just a word meaning the genre is in a transitional period where its changing its self..... Old Progressive is totally different then New progressive...... Trance will go in a progressive a few years until it finds a dominating sup genre of trance which it can expande !!! Thats how i see it!
I think 1997 was the best year, so many of my favourite tunes are rom that year. Here's some of the best:
Space Brothers "Shine" (My number 1 favourite") - April 97
Transa "Prohase" (X Cabs Remix) - September 97
Space Brothers "Forgiven" - Nov 97
Dannii "All I Wanna Do" (Trouser Enthusiasts Mix) - June 97
BT "Flaming June" - July 97
Loveclub "The Journey" (Trouser Enthusiasts Remix) - July 97
Chakra "I Am" - January 97
Chakra "Home" - August 97
BT "Remember" - September 97
Gina G "Ti Amo" (Trouser Enthusiasts Mix) - March 97
Disco Citizens "Footprint" - March 97
Airscape "Pacific Melody" - July 97
Chicane "Sunstroke" - May 97
Chicane "Lost You Somewhere" (Oct 97)
Nowadays you just don't get any tunes as good as these!
Some other good old tunes:
Heliotropic "Walk With Me" - 1996
Cosmic Baby "Fantasia" - 1994
Visions Of Shiva "Perfect Day" - 1993
Salt Tank "Eugina" - 1996
Humate "Love Stimulation" (PvD Mix) - 1993
Here's what I have to say on this matter:
Some time ago I bought Kimball Collins' ICU Generation Trance 2000, consisting mainly of epic and uplifting anthems. I was blown away by "Communication" (Armin van Buuren) and many other melodic, high-energy tunes on that CD, with powerful synths and strong beats.
At about the same time I got Tiesto's Summerbreeze, the only US release featuring Tiesto, and it too was a great collection of fast melodic trance. The track "Wonder Where You Are," by Tiesto/Armin van Buuren, was a masterpiece.
Then recently I got to see both Collins and Tiesto live, and guess what kind of trance they both spun? Nothing but mind-numbing, dull, colorless drum-n-bass "progressive" stuff with no melody, little excitement, no variety at all, just kick-and-snare noise that made everything sound the same. I'm not saying I'm completely against this kind of trance, but building the whole set around it made the event boring, at least for me.
Also, a few days ago I downloaded (thanks to this site) Armin van Buuren's mix, "Live @ Dance Dept." From the author of such powerful melodic anthems as the ones mentioned above, I surely expected a lot more than this bland, uninteresting progressive drum-and-bass. It is danceable, all right. But it doesn't evoke any emotions, and it's not interesting.
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| Originally posted by Eugene Here's what I have to say on this matter: Some time ago I bought Kimball Collins' ICU Generation Trance 2000, consisting mainly of epic and uplifting anthems. I was blown away by "Communication" (Armin van Buuren) and many other melodic, high-energy tunes on that CD, with powerful synths and strong beats. At about the same time I got Tiesto's Summerbreeze, the only US release featuring Tiesto, and it too was a great collection of fast melodic trance. The track "Wonder Where You Are," by Tiesto/Armin van Buuren, was a masterpiece. Then recently I got to see both Collins and Tiesto live, and guess what kind of trance they both spun? Nothing but mind-numbing, dull, colorless drum-n-bass "progressive" stuff with no melody, little excitement, no variety at all, just kick-and-snare noise that made everything sound the same. I'm not saying I'm completely against this kind of trance, but building the whole set around it made the event boring, at least for me. Also, a few days ago I downloaded (thanks to this site) Armin van Buuren's mix, "Live @ Dance Dept." From the author of such powerful melodic anthems as the ones mentioned above, I surely expected a lot more than this bland, uninteresting progressive drum-and-bass. It is danceable, all right. But it doesn't evoke any emotions, and it's not interesting. |
.... The thread is about thinking old trance tracks bettr than new ones and people opinions about this topic... Not about how or why Dj's spin what they do now... Keep it on topic!! The reason for this is because I see good threads that start of with a good topic but then turn into a big debate... Lets try to keep it on the good topic ...
true true
i know what you're saying..
kimball collins generation 2000 cd is what got me into the whole genre.
system f out of the blue is a classic also..
but the trance these days aren't bad either.. its all evolving into different forms, i mean there's so many different forms of trance now that you can't even really categorize one song into one type of genre....
oldies are goodies but the new trance is good too =)
jus mah 2 centz
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