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Posted by Peter Campbell on May-08-2001 05:09:

Hello!

Just wanted to see were you think Trance is in the most popular music . This is were I think it fits in Australia


Posted by nennon on May-08-2001 05:51:

USA:

Pop 1
Rap/Hip Hop 2
R&B 3
Rock 4
Country 5
House 6
Techno 7
Trance 8
Grunge 9
Heavy Metal 10

:-P


Posted by Fraggle on May-08-2001 06:06:

hmm, imho...from what i hear on radio/tv/in the shops etc, i'd say it's much closer to what nennon posted...maybe country not so high on the list tho
ya, i don't think heavy metal is that popular and the house->techno->trance order seems about right, at least from what most of the clubs/bars are playing


Posted by JM on May-08-2001 06:11:

Arrow huh????

Trance what?! huh?? oh that ecstacy music, yeah, i heard about that.....well, that's what most of the people here say....not many people i know here in Seattle like trance/techno.....the dominant radio station plays r&b, rap, and hip-hop......wish they'd go out of business.....what the hell do they see in rap, hip-hop and what's with all those r&b/hip-hop women singing about overcoming their bad days and troubles......damn it! just listen to trance and it will ALL be better....guaranteed.....

>JM<


Posted by Mark on May-08-2001 07:08:

Re: huh????

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo
Trance what?! huh?? oh that ecstacy music, yeah, i heard about that.....well, that's what most of the people here say....not many people i know here in Seattle like trance/techno.....the dominant radio station plays r&b, rap, and hip-hop......wish they'd go out of business.....what the hell do they see in rap, hip-hop and what's with all those r&b/hip-hop women singing about overcoming their bad days and troubles......damn it! just listen to trance and it will ALL be better....guaranteed.....>JM<


heh come to think of it, its probably better off that pop and r&b are the most dominant genre being played on the radio. i want trance to be as underground and less commercial as possible. once it gets too commercialized the whole thing gets screwed over but thats just my opinion.


Posted by Pointy on May-08-2001 09:01:

Australia:
1: Pop-Britney Spears, Nsync, Fragma, Alice Deejay
2: Rap/Hiphop/RnB: Destiny's Child, 2pac, DMX
3: Rock-Coldplay, Powderfinger.
4: Grunge/Heavy-Nine Inch Nails (gotta love em), Blink 182, Linkin Park, RATM..
5: Techno/House-Melbourne has been dubbed techno city of the world...
6: TRANCE

cant think of other styles =)


Posted by nennon on May-08-2001 10:14:

Read This!

PointyDC, I refuse to classify Fragma and Alice Deejay as Pop music. They should not be in the same category as Nsync and Britney Spears.. that's just wrong..

Alice Deejay is Top 40 club music. It's not mindblowing, and it's not even great, but it's easy to dance to, and the girls of Alice Deejay are great in person - I'm not ashamed to admit that I've seen them live twice. They burst with energy on stage, and it's fun to be there when they perform. They are good dancers.. and the crowd gets involved. It's a happy experience going to their shows.. But anyways..

Fragma is crap music, there is no doubt about it.. But even then, a lot of us liked it at some point. Toca's Miracle was huge, Everytime You Need Me was pretty catchy. The new single, which I just downloaded an SVCD video for, is decent too.. It could be great if remixed into a harder dance song. Btw, the single is called "You are alive".

So anyway.. here's a better breakdown of genres and their popularity:

1: Pop - Britney Spears, Nsync, Backstreet Boys, Mandy Moore
2: Rap/Mainstream RnB - Destiny's Child, DMX, Jay-Z, Nelly
3: Rock - Matchbox 20, Coldplay, Blink 182, Linkin Park, many others.
4: Top40 Euro hits - ATC, Spice Girls, Craig David, S Club 7
5: Hip Hop - More underground/audience specific music - Wyclef Jean, Black Eyed Peas, The Fugees, The Roots, etc.
6: Meaningful pop music - Nelly Furtado, Sarah McLachlan, No Doubt, Jewel, Dido, David Gray, Jag Star
7: Top 40 remixes and mainstream dance music - Mel C, Whitney Houston, Brooklyn Bounce, Jennifer Lopez
8: Mainstream club music (different from #7 by genre.. it's electronic to begin with, not R&B or pop) - Alice Deejay, Fragma, Daft Punk, Darude
9: Rave/mainstream trance - Airscape, famous Paul Van Dyk songs, Miss Shiva, ATB, Lost Witness, Voodoo & Serano
10: House and various tranceaddict.com music - the stuff that's listed in this forum, and most people in clubs and raves don't know by name
11: Songs that are too complicated for the mainstream crowd to remember - Tiesto's Flight643, various progressive trance without vocals, etc. Not MTV material.
12: New music - only trance addicts and DJs know the names of new songs before the crowds do. Regardless of the music, this ranks pretty low on the popularity scale.. until the new songs hit it big, of course.

So that's my breakdown of it.. Pop/Rap on top, Euro music and Rock 2nd, Hip Hop/Serious pop music 3rd, top 40 remixes and mainstream crowd-pleasers 4th, rave trance 5th, tranceaddict music 6th, complex trance 7th, new music 8th.

Oldies and country music were emitted for obvious reasons.


Posted by GlowingMushroom on May-09-2001 00:42:

Thumbs up I agree with you TurboGS-R

YEa I think it is better if electronic music remains underground.. I think it's better that way. commercial sucks! Keep trance underground!! :-)

PLUR


Posted by The Greek on May-09-2001 01:17:

true keep it underground but it would be great to be able to turn on the radio one day and hear at any time of the day a hot trance track...ah europe how i long for you.. this summer baby!!!!


Posted by krusader on May-09-2001 01:59:

Re: huh????

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo
Trance what?! huh?? oh that ecstacy music, yeah, i heard about that.....well, that's what most of the people here say....not many people i know here in Seattle like trance/techno.....the dominant radio station plays r&b, rap, and hip-hop......wish they'd go out of business.....what the hell do they see in rap, hip-hop and what's with all those r&b/hip-hop women singing about overcoming their bad days and troubles......damn it! just listen to trance and it will ALL be better....guaranteed.....

>JM<


ill tell you what they see... the dollar bills in the wallets of all the little fucking girls who are so fucking clueless they should be smacked with a fucking copy of pvd's for an angel vinyl... maybe then they would get a "taste" of good music!


Posted by krusader on May-09-2001 02:00:

quote:
Originally posted by PointyDC
Australia:
1: Pop-Britney Spears, Nsync, Fragma, Alice Deejay
2: Rap/Hiphop/RnB: Destiny's Child, 2pac, DMX
3: Rock-Coldplay, Powderfinger.
4: Grunge/Heavy-Nine Inch Nails (gotta love em), Blink 182, Linkin Park, RATM..
5: Techno/House-Melbourne has been dubbed techno city of the world...
6: TRANCE

cant think of other styles =)


haha... coldplay is rock?


Posted by ftnb on May-09-2001 02:03:

Idea

hrmm, it probably goes like this:

1 - pop (mana, alternative shit, christina aguillera, bsb, shit like that you know)
2 - punk
3 - metal (all its forms)
4 - trance. (theres really on techno here at all, its all trance)
5 - rap.


Posted by ftnb on May-09-2001 02:05:

Arrow

i meant to say theres NO techno or hip-hop stuff here at all... not even alot of house, very lil house.. mostly just trance.


Posted by DJEmar on May-09-2001 02:38:

Trance definately has to be the least popular(trance I'm not talking Alice Deejay or ATB-popular stuff). This does not upset me becuase I love underground music. I think that it just makes it that much better that I have to search to find a lot of the good stuff in America rather than having it sell millions of records and being played out by the masses. Get my point.


Posted by nennon on May-09-2001 02:43:

Coldplay is alternative makeout music. Better? :P


Posted by krusader on May-09-2001 03:10:

quote:
Originally posted by nennon
Coldplay is alternative makeout music. Better? :P


no... actually thats just as false...

when i make out... its always with some good trance playing in the background


Posted by DJEmar on May-09-2001 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by krusader




when i make out... its always with some good trance playing in the background


I could not agree with you anymore. I love having trance in the backround. It is so nice to bang to


Posted by nennon on May-09-2001 04:07:

Krusader.. bang yourself, I'm sure


Posted by JeffCee on May-09-2001 07:45:

quote:
Originally posted by nennon
PointyDC, I refuse to classify Fragma and Alice Deejay as Pop music. They should not be in the same category as Nsync and Britney Spears.. that's just wrong..

Alice Deejay is Top 40 club music. It's not mindblowing, and it's not even great, but it's easy to dance to, and the girls of Alice Deejay are great in person - I'm not ashamed to admit that I've seen them live twice. They burst with energy on stage, and it's fun to be there when they perform. They are good dancers.. and the crowd gets involved. It's a happy experience going to their shows.. But anyways..

Fragma is crap music, there is no doubt about it.. But even then, a lot of us liked it at some point. Toca's Miracle was huge, Everytime You Need Me was pretty catchy. The new single, which I just downloaded an SVCD video for, is decent too.. It could be great if remixed into a harder dance song. Btw, the single is called "You are alive".

So anyway.. here's a better breakdown of genres and their popularity:

1: Pop - Britney Spears, Nsync, Backstreet Boys, Mandy Moore
2: Rap/Mainstream RnB - Destiny's Child, DMX, Jay-Z, Nelly
3: Rock - Matchbox 20, Coldplay, Blink 182, Linkin Park, many others.
4: Top40 Euro hits - ATC, Spice Girls, Craig David, S Club 7
5: Hip Hop - More underground/audience specific music - Wyclef Jean, Black Eyed Peas, The Fugees, The Roots, etc.
6: Meaningful pop music - Nelly Furtado, Sarah McLachlan, No Doubt, Jewel, Dido, David Gray, Jag Star
7: Top 40 remixes and mainstream dance music - Mel C, Whitney Houston, Brooklyn Bounce, Jennifer Lopez
8: Mainstream club music (different from #7 by genre.. it's electronic to begin with, not R&B or pop) - Alice Deejay, Fragma, Daft Punk, Darude
9: Rave/mainstream trance - Airscape, famous Paul Van Dyk songs, Miss Shiva, ATB, Lost Witness, Voodoo & Serano
10: House and various tranceaddict.com music - the stuff that's listed in this forum, and most people in clubs and raves don't know by name
11: Songs that are too complicated for the mainstream crowd to remember - Tiesto's Flight643, various progressive trance without vocals, etc. Not MTV material.
12: New music - only trance addicts and DJs know the names of new songs before the crowds do. Regardless of the music, this ranks pretty low on the popularity scale.. until the new songs hit it big, of course.

So that's my breakdown of it.. Pop/Rap on top, Euro music and Rock 2nd, Hip Hop/Serious pop music 3rd, top 40 remixes and mainstream crowd-pleasers 4th, rave trance 5th, tranceaddict music 6th, complex trance 7th, new music 8th.

Oldies and country music were emitted for obvious reasons.


Believe it or not...

The top music genere in the U.S. IS Country. Go figure....


Posted by Spellbound on May-09-2001 07:47:

I'm going to have to disagree with FTNB...Here in Panama we actually have a lot of trance on the radio. After 10 we have a station that plays only trance...Mind you it may be super trendy trance, but it is trance nonetheless...so here's my rating..


1. Panamanian Rock/Punk/Ska- Mana..Son Miserables..Los Rabanes...Os Almirantes.
2. Pop- brittany...christinia..bsb..ass like that..
3. Trance- anything from ATB to PvD...and completely unheard of stuff..(unheard of for us anyway.)


the only cool thing is that me and FTNB tell them what to play...ahah...yeah. panamatrance.com sucks my left nut.

Peace,
Spellbound


Posted by jp on May-09-2001 08:24:

JP thinks this:

I give:

* techno trance hardcore oldschool rave 10
* rap hip hop like dr dre 8
* pop 7
* other shit 0

oh shit I can't mention it here I think but I really like Destiny's Child.

Dutch people in general (not me) like Dutch songs, r&b, pop and rock and eurodance


Posted by krusader on May-09-2001 13:03:

quote:
Originally posted by nennon
Krusader.. bang yourself, I'm sure


dont make me come to dc and pimp the hoes again... just remember last time we went to platinum

yea... thats what i thought!


Posted by Fraggle on May-09-2001 13:55:

hehe, nennon, how can u call nelly furtado meaningful pop!??!?! or even no doubt?? although they have a different sound to britney & co. etc i think the lyrics are just as superficial!! i admit, i like the song but it's all music for the masses
anyway, just mho

mushroom...way cool sig.!!!


Posted by toxa on May-09-2001 14:06:

I live in NYC, so the trance scene here is really mixed
Not too many people are into trance as much as I or the people on this site are. Actually very few people are like that. But, on the other hand, a lot of people like and listen to trance, mostly uplifting stuff, but its still prety popular here.


Posted by nennon on May-09-2001 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Fraggle
hehe, [b]nennon, how can u call nelly furtado meaningful pop!??!?! or even no doubt?? although they have a different sound to britney & co. etc i think the lyrics are just as superficial!! i admit, i like the song but it's all music for the masses
anyway, just mho


Hey Fraggle.. Well, I think that Nelly Furtado is more meaningful than most MTV pop out there. She has some emotion behind her songs, and she is great live (I went to her concert about a month ago).

No Doubt has been one of my favorite bands for a long time, and I've seen them live twice. If you can relate to heartbreak, love lost, and other similar feelings, No Doubt can make a pretty good soundtrack to your life.

I used to like rock a lot more than I liked trance, but eventually, my tastes changed. I got into liking trance and laid back pop - David Bowie, Nelly Furtado, Dido, etc.. and I think this is where my tastes are going to stay. In many ways, trance is the ultimate music - it's inspiring (Dumonde - Never Look Back), epic (Paul Van Dyk), happy (Barthezz - On the Move) or sad (PPK - Ressurection). It covers every emotion and includes many other musical genres - Hip Hop, Pop, etc.

Even if I'm not in the mood to dance or hear a good beat, I can always find a trance song that will affect my mood in a positive way. A lot of ambient stuff is really good..


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