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What is the hardest skill to master as a DJ ? (not counting reading the crowd)

Thinking of technical issues, I have gotten the idea that beatjugging
must be the hardest, yes, no ?

not only the technical skills of a dj are important.. the most important is how you build up your set.. good music choice.. not playing 2 loud.. clean records ..

i agree w/ teknasia

Yes but I was thinking about technical issues like mixing, scratching,
remixing live and so on.

well if your talking about pure technical skill, then i'd say beat juggling is the hardest

beat juggling - beat matching

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Originally posted by teknasia beat juggling - beat matching

If this is true, then i shall agree. I also agree to teknasia's post here:

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Originally posted by teknasia not only the technical skills of a dj are important.. the most important is how you build up your set.. good music choice.. not playing 2 loud.. clean records ..

Being a dj isn't just a bunch of transitions during a night. It needs some talent and of course, the crowd pleasure. If the crowd is pleased with the music you spin, then go on. A DJ has to "modify" his set according to the crowd needs (I mean the local neighbourhood DJ, and not pvd or tiesto those are professionals of the music they play and their crowd knows what to expect when seeing them performing live!)

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Originally posted by teknasia beat juggling - beat matching

Beat Juggling is not beatmatching/beatmixing at all. It's like scratching... Djing skill tricks that are usually heard only in dj battles like DMC. Beat Juggling is where you have 2 records and you create a new beat by going back and forth from each deck at a fast speed.

beat juggling is pretty tough, but advanced scrathing is imo rather harder as beatjuggling is mostly 1 handed fader work, whereas good scratching can use both hands, 1 on the vinyl, 1 on a fader/eq. give eddie haliwell sets a listen

naw naw naw...
the hardest skill to master is the dj wink to the cutie in the front row

Turntablist skills... so many people can mix like our idolized dj's, but not as many can cut and scratch as well as the best turntablists.

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Originally posted by quddha Turntablist skills... so many people can mix like our idolized dj's, but not as many can cut and scratch as well as the best turntablists.

like the guy in your avatar?

i dont think scratching or beat juggling has anything to do with djing

you dont see PVD or Tiesto beat juggling or scratching.. maybe backspins but thats it

Haunted: Well, trance for example doesnt do very good in scratching
or beatjuggling. Have you ever tried scratching back and forth over
a trancerecord ? Its almost only the intro and outtro that sounds
good becuase you wont be going over a synth, that sounds.. strange.

You need tracks with beats and vocals, not synths, buildups and so on.

Yup, building up a set is one of the hardest things.

I still have problems doing that...

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i dont think scratching or beat juggling has anything to do with djing

Lol...Haunted, do you spin? If so, I advise you to sell your decks...no better yet, GIVE your decks away, as you have no dignifying right to even touch 1200s.

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you dont see PVD or Tiesto beat juggling or scratching.. maybe backspins but thats it

THATS BECAUSE THEY CANT. They are not "DJs" on the term...they are money making, other people's music playing, one record after another spinning...people. These idolized DJs, as we all call them are anything but in terms of true turntablism and DJing.
Backspin? Yeah, ok...but anything else? Backspinning is just that...spinning, uh...backwards.

Don't take offense, Haunted, but growing up on hip hop, and wanting to spin for the longest time, hearing stuff like you posted really sets me off.

whoa, let's not get out of hand. yes, hip hop DJs are skilled, beat juggling and scratching is defintely a part of a DJs skilled.

but so are mxing DJs, like PVD, Tiesto, etc. it's best not to go ripping on anyone as skilled as these guys.

i'd like to see a hip hop DJ pull off some of tiestos PVDs mixes, i bet it would sound as bad as it would when PVD tries to scratch!

anyway, to each his own, beatmatching, beatjuggling, scratching, backspinning, these are all skills of a DJ, no matter what genre he happens to spin.

I think <-- whehe me is thinking

i think beat juggle and scratching is not a skill to make your set
sounds better i think a good build up with good vinyl is much harder, i mean some songs are made 4 eachother and some are just at war

the hardest thing is too find the ''PERFECT'' bpm so you dont have too touch the vinyls or the pitch

sasha is soo fast
its like: he puts the record, in one second he moves the pitch at the exact place and he never touch it again
there are some exceptions of course

maybe sasha spins his set so much that he knows where the pitch need to be ...

but anyway .. i am always a minute atleast adjusting the pitch thats fast 4 me

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Originally posted by JohnSmith i'd like to see a hip hop DJ pull off some of tiestos PVDs mixes, i bet it would sound as bad as it would when PVD tries to scratch!

Actually beatmixing/beatmatching hip-hop records is alot harder to do than trance is. I use to spin hip-hop for years years ago. The difference between mixing hip-hop and trance is that in Trance there's alot more tweaking (filtering and what not) and for some dj's blending than there is in hip-hop. And what it really comes down to in mixing is KNOWING YOUR F@$&ING RECORDS!!!!!

See ppl have it all wrong here... There's 2 different kinds of Dj's.
One's that just mix records, and one's the do tricks. Yes you can do both. Both are skills, but you have to remember you can't compare tricks to mixing!!! That's just retarded. Compare apples and oranges... both fruit, but they are both different. Now how about we make this thread into "What's the hardest skill for a Trance Dj (since it's not about beatjuggling and scratching)!!

I don't mind hearing both whats the hardest skill for a Trance DJ
and a hip-hop DJ, both very interesting.

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Originally posted by Haunted like the guy in your avatar?

lol, the guy in my avatar is me. :P and no, i suck at scratching.

yeah beat juggling is def one of the hardest skills

you cant just use your hands your whole body has to get into the routine thats the hardest part

and whoever said about advanced scratching being hard too i have to agree jus download some q-bert vids and ull see what were talking about it will def blow ur mind

Building a set is hard, but I feel that a dj can get the most bangin trackz, have them in a good order, but still not be able to mix them really well. Not just beat match them...But put a creative touch on them...Listen to these to know what I'm talkin about...

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