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Posted by Parafox on Dec-30-2002 16:55:

Searching for classical music behind Trance tracks

Many trance tracks like "Gouryella-Ligaya", "William Orbit-Adagio for Strings" or "Rollerball-Alibinoni" are based on classical music and I really like classical music - but often I don't know the composer and the title of the original classical track, for example "Ligaya".

Would be nice, when some of u could list up some really nice and melodic classical tracks and the trance remakes of them.

My favorite composers are on William Orbit's CD "Pieces in a Modern Style":

1. Adagio for strings (Samuel Barber)
2. In a landscape (John Cage)
3. Ogive Number 1 (Erik Satie)
4. Cavalleria Rusticana (Pietro Mascagri)
5. Pavane pour une infante defunte (Maurice Ravel)
6. L'Inverno (Antonio Vivaldi)
7. Triple Concerto (Ludwig Van Beethoven)
8. Xerxes (George Frideric Handel)
9. Piece in the old style 1 (Henryk Gorecki)
10. Piece in the old style 3 (Henryk Gorecki)
11. Opus 132 (Ludwig Van Beethoven)

Posted by BLuEOcEaN420 on Dec-30-2002 17:53:

well i can't name the original music but songs w/ classical samples :

*Gouryella - Ligaya as mentioned
*Gouryella - Tenshi
*Skip Raider - Another Day <--Adagio For Strings
*Fire & Ice - Souvenir De Chine <--ditto^^^
*Shane 54 - Souvenir de Chine <-ditto ^^^
*William Orbit - Pavane pour une infante defunte (Ferry Corsten Mix)
*Bolero - Symphonic (CJ Stone Mix)
*Paul Oakenfold - Zoo York

there are pleny more but i cant name shit right now

-BLuEOcEaN420

Posted by starglider on Dec-30-2002 19:01:

Aria - Dido (AvB's Universal Religion Mix) -- based on Henry Purcell's opera Dido and Aeneas.

Aria - Willow (DJ Tiesto's Magikal Remake) -- based on Giuseppe Verdi's Otello.

And BLuEOcEaN420, Souvenir De Chine is derived from the Jean Michel Jarre production "Souvenir Of China" which I don't think had any classical influence? I'm not sure though.

Posted by BLuEOcEaN420 on Dec-30-2002 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by starglider
Aria - Dido (AvB's Universal Religion Mix) -- based on Henry Purcell's opera Dido and Aeneas.

Aria - Willow (DJ Tiesto's Magikal Remake) -- based on Giuseppe Verdi's Otello.

And BLuEOcEaN420, Souvenir De Chine is derived from the Jean Michel Jarre production "Souvenir Of China" which I don't think had any classical influence? I'm not sure though.

hehe i think u may be right but isnt jean michel jarre a classical composer ? im actually not familiar w/ him at all so im prolly talking crap for some reasoni always associate souvenir de chine w/ the likes of adagio for strings (ferry mix). no clue why

-BLuEOcEaN420

Posted by Rakoon on Dec-30-2002 19:36:

quote:
Originally posted by starglider
And BLuEOcEaN420, Souvenir De Chine is derived from the Jean Michel Jarre production "Souvenir Of China" which I don't think had any classical influence? I'm not sure though.

Nope, no classical influence there. I've heard JMJ's original Souvenir Of China and the only part that Fire & Ice borrowed is the ambient parts you hear at the breakdown of Souvenir De Chine, before and during the breakbeats.

quote:
Originally posted by BLuEOcEaN420
hehe i think u may be right but isnt jean michel jarre a classical composer ? im actually not familiar w/ him at all so im prolly talking crap

I dont really know much about him either but I think he might be an old school electronica producer.

quote:
]Originally posted by BLuEOcEaN420
for some reasoni always associate souvenir de chine w/ the likes of adagio for strings (ferry mix). no clue why

Thats probably cause the main melody in Fire & Ice's Souvenir sounds like the main melody in Ferry's remix of Adagio

And back on topic.. some others I can think of:

Hybrid - Finished Symphony
Rank 1 - Symsonic
Rank 1 - Such Is Life

But I think the classical parts of the above songs are made by Hybrid and Rank 1 themselves.

Posted by Parafox on Dec-30-2002 20:25:

quote:

Hybrid - Finished Symphony
Rank 1 - Symsonic
Rank 1 - Such Is Life

quote:

Aria - Dido (AvB's Universal Religion Mix)
Aria - Willow (DJ Tiesto's Magikal Remake)

quote:

*Gouryella - Ligaya as mentioned
*Gouryella - Tenshi
*Fire & Ice - Souvenir De Chine
*Shane 54 - Souvenir de Chine
*William Orbit - Pavane pour une infante defunte (Ferry Corsten Mix)
*Paul Oakenfold - Zoo York

I already know these songs - very nice!

Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Dec-30-2002 20:28:

Minimalistix- Close Cover (Original by Wim Mertens I believe)

I just found out about this one a few days ago.

Posted by Parafox on Dec-30-2002 20:38:

I love Minimalistix, especially their version of Adagio for Strings - beautiful!

Posted by Parafox on Dec-30-2002 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
Minimalistix- Close Cover (Original by Wim Mertens I believe)

I just found out about this one a few days ago.

Struggle for Pleasure is also by Wim Mertens

Posted by cbxzcm on Dec-30-2002 20:44:

From Chilled Out Euphoria mixed by Solar Stone, does anyone know if the piano part in 2nd Element - Underwaterfall is a original piece by 2nd Element or a classical piece?

Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Dec-30-2002 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Parafox
Struggle for Pleasure is also by Wim Mertens

Ok, thanks for the info. Wim Mertens has some pretty good piano tracks.

Posted by CynepMeH on Dec-30-2002 21:33:

Trance Opera - Eben La Wally (Dream Dance 4, CD2, Last track)

Posted by raver31 on Dec-30-2002 21:37:

melodica - song for violin
trevor reilly - down with the underground
tin tin out - six feet under

Posted by GrimReaper on Dec-31-2002 09:54:

Wim Mertens

He is a Belgian classical music composer who plays the piano and the classical guitar. He has also given several concerts, both as a solo and with his ensemble all around the world.

And yes, he sure has made both Close Cover and Struggle For Pleasure, the latter one being also the name of the album he made in 1983. Visit his official site http://www.wimmertens.be/ for more info.

The thing with him and Minimalistix is that he knows all the guys behind the group.

Posted by Tukan on Dec-31-2002 10:09:

Anyone know what Minimalistix - Water is from then?

Lost Emotions 2001 sounds classically influenced (by Fire & Ice).

Posted by oDrori on Dec-31-2002 18:18:

Anyone knows who originally composed "Albinoni" as in "Rollerball - Albinoni" ?

Posted by starglider on Dec-31-2002 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by oDrori
Anyone knows who originally composed "Albinoni" as in "Rollerball - Albinoni" ?

... Tomaso Albinoni.

Posted by dj_mdma on Dec-31-2002 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by starglider
Aria - Dido (AvB's Universal Religion Mix) -- based on Henry Purcell's opera Dido and Aeneas.

Aria - Willow (DJ Tiesto's Magikal Remake) -- based on Giuseppe Verdi's Otello.

And BLuEOcEaN420, Souvenir De Chine is derived from the Jean Michel Jarre production "Souvenir Of China" which I don't think had any classical influence? I'm not sure though.

YES!!!! Someone who knows where the Aria Songs had there classicals parts from!!!! U r a lifesaver!!!!! It is all part of my plan that could get me worldwide recognition...be afraid, be very afraid!

Anyway, back to the subject Another trance tune with strong classical influences is DJ Tiesto's MAgik Journey!

Posted by Lytchix on Jan-02-2003 15:33:

quote:
Originally posted by GrimReaper
Wim Mertens

He is a Belgian classical music composer who plays the piano and the classical guitar. He has also given several concerts, both as a solo and with his ensemble all around the world.

And yes, he sure has made both Close Cover and Struggle For Pleasure, the latter one being also the name of the album he made in 1983. Visit his official site http://www.wimmertens.be/ for more info.

The thing with him and Minimalistix is that he knows all the guys behind the group.

That's really interesting... Thanks for the info.
I'm going to dl it to compare with Minimalistix's work!

quote:
... Tomaso Albinoni.

What's the name of the track from which Rollerball was inspired to make his own one?

Posted by starglider on Jan-02-2003 16:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Lytchix
What's the name of the track from which Rollerball was inspired to make his own one?

It's simply known as the "Albinoni Adagio". I found this on a site about him:

The "Albinoni Adagio" is based on a fragment of manuscript discovered in the Dresden State Library after the Second World War by Remo Giazotto, a Milanese musicologist who was at that time completing his biography of Albinoni and his listing of Albinoni's music. Only the bass line and six bars of melody had survived, possibly from the slow movement of a Trio Sonata. Giazotto "reconstructed" the now-famous Adagio in about 1945, based on the surviving fragment. To him it suggested a piece that would be played in church, so he added an organ. It is perhaps ironic, that Albinoni's rediscovery by the wider public in our own times was largely based on this ever-popular piece which Albinoni would only barely recognize.

quote:
Originally posted by dj_mdma
YES!!!! Someone who knows where the Aria Songs had there classicals parts from!!!! U r a lifesaver!!!!! It is all part of my plan that could get me worldwide recognition...be afraid, be very afraid!

Anyway, back to the subject Another trance tune with strong classical influences is DJ Tiesto's MAgik Journey!

Glad I could help.

And Magik Journey is certainly classically influenced however it's not based on any known classical composition to my knowledge -- Geert Huinink created it.

Posted by Djeebie on Jan-02-2003 16:54:

As a matter of fact Ligaya isn't based on a classical music part. The classical part in Ligaya has been made by John Ewbank (a dutch musician) and is totally his own work. Ferry worked with him on Ligaya.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-02-2003 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by BLuEOcEaN420
well i can't name the original music but songs w/ classical samples :

*Gouryella - Ligaya as mentioned
*Gouryella - Tenshi

As far as I know these are both original...

Posted by Parafox on Jan-02-2003 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
As far as I know these are both original...

No, the melody of Tenshi is "stolen" from "Vangelis - Light & Shadow" - i listened to the track and it is exactly the same melody. http://www.koert.com/data/cover.htm

Posted by Eu4ea on Jan-02-2003 20:17:

quote:
Originally posted by starglider
And BLuEOcEaN420, Souvenir De Chine is derived from the Jean Michel Jarre production "Souvenir Of China" which I don't think had any classical influence? I'm not sure though.

JEan Michel Jarre was a pioneer of ambient and space music, with some trance elements, same era as jam and spoon, in the mid 80's to early 90's. My dad used to listen to him loads, but I don't think he's come out with anything lately. And no, souvenir de chine didn't have any influence of an actual classical piece.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-02-2003 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Parafox
No, the melody of Tenshi is "stolen" from "Vangelis - Light & Shadow" - i listened to the track and it is exactly the same melody. http://www.koert.com/data/cover.htm

Ahh, right - I had a feeling there was a discussion about that one earlier but cannot be sure.

Ligaya is definitely original though... I think the classical bit was done by someone else than Ferry but it was done for Ligaya to begin with.

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