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Majority of Trance Commercial?

I've been thinking about this for a while, and I've come to the conclusion that for the most part trance is very mainstream.

Before I go on, to hopefully avoid flames I'm going to remind all of you that I'm not one of those "prog snobs".

With that said, everyone has to realize a few things. The first is that being commercial and or mainstream does not mean your selling out, nor does it mean that the music is bad, or even "cheese." What it does mean is that when many dj's have weekly gigs on big radio shows, and can charge so much for one night of spining, are treated as celeberties, there's no doubt that trance has entered the mainstream.

The fact is that when dj's have groupies, and there albums start selling a 100,000 albums trance has entered the mainstream, and the sooner we all accept it, and move on the sooner we can stop flaming each other over this stupid shit.

And your saying that is a bad thing? Who cares if trance is mainstream or not. Trance is trance. And as long as producers are producing quality tracks and dj's are mixing quality tracks, then we're all happy.

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Originally posted by NooKLeaR And your saying that is a bad thing? Who cares if trance is mainstream or not. Trance is trance. And as long as producers are producing quality tracks and dj's are mixing quality tracks, then we're all happy.

No no no no, I'm saying it doesnt matter that its mainstream :P

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Originally posted by a-aplz

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I actually have to agree........

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Hmmm... is it a good thing?

If trance is moving towards the mainstream doesn't it mean that the tunes will be even more formulaic, no-one will try doing anything original because then it wouldn't fit into the mainstream and not nearly as much $$$... just my two cents, doesn't have to be true

P.S. I am talking about if it will go all the way... Blasted by all the radio stations and so on.

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Originally posted by Nadi No no no no, I'm saying it doesnt matter that its mainstream :P

then what is the point of this thread? To show how trance is slowing becoming mainstream? Well...

Trance is now where near mainstream where I live so I don't care. When i'm stopped at a stop light and hear some kid pumping Dutch Force - Deadline, i'll worry but that won't happen for a while here. Just listen to the music, the rest is out of our hands.

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Originally posted by TheFeeling If trance is moving towards the mainstream doesn't it mean that the tunes will be even more formulaic, no-one will try doing anything original because then it wouldn't fit into the mainstream and not nearly as much $$$...

Actually you can look at it this way... new artists will emerge and see this is an oppurtunity to develop a new sound that all the underground fans will love. Just cause trance becomes mainstream doesnt mean that there still wont be the different, quality underground stuff. When something is mainstream, the underground will always exist.

But alas, I dont think any form of electronic music will ever become "mainstream" mainstream, at least here in the US. I always hear house and breaks when I walk into a clothing store, electronica in an action film commercial, and cheese on pop radio stations at night. But I never hear people listening to trance on their CD players or TV shows devoted to trance. The purpose of electronic music to Americans is for background music or to make a film sell. So then, trance wont become mainstream in the US anytime soon. In europe on the other hand... I dont know because I dont live there

And Nadi, just because trance has a scene with some sort of structure and similarities as the scenes of other music genres, doesnt mean its commercial But I'm not saying your wrong or anything..

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Originally posted by Rakoon Actually you can look at it this way... new artists will emerge and see this is an oppurtunity to develop a new sound that all the underground fans will love. Just cause trance becomes mainstream doesnt mean that there still wont be the different, quality underground stuff. When something is mainstream, the underground will always exist. But alas, I dont think any form of electronic music will ever become "mainstream" mainstream, at least here in the US. I always hear house and breaks when I walk into a clothing store, electronica in an action film commercial, and cheese on pop radio stations at night. But I never hear people listening to trance on their CD players or TV shows devoted to trance. The purpose of electronic music to Americans is for background music or to make a film sell. So then, trance wont become mainstream in the US anytime soon. In europe on the other hand... I dont know because I dont live there And Nadi, just because trance has a scene with some sort of structure and similarities as the scenes of other music genres, doesnt mean its commercial But I'm not saying your wrong or anything..

If Trance does become commerical in America, its gonna be scary . I hope it doesn't. It's pretty much commercial in Europe but more so in some countries than others. It's not also as commercial as other genres.

trance can get as commercial or popular as it wants. to be honest, i wouldn't care. what i would care about is the quality of the tracks that get churned out.

you could look at it this way, if the quality of trance nowadays carries over and becomes commercialized. great! then we wouldn't be having "commercial trax suck" arguments anymore. heh. i mean how great would it be to have the general public LOVING the quality of trance we here @ tranceaddict uphold?

it'd fooking rule.

These threads always end up going in circles

trance is mainstream to a small majority of people, most dont know the tracks they hear live and shit, like my friends, they listen to trance, but if i were to talk to them about it, they would get confused

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Originally posted by Carona Trance is now where near mainstream where I live so I don't care. When i'm stopped at a stop light and hear some kid pumping Dutch Force - Deadline, i'll worry but that won't happen for a while here. Just listen to the music, the rest is out of our hands.

ummm...i bump trance in my car everytime i drive...so if you drove past my car while i was bumping trance...you're gonna worry that trance has become mainstream? okay so who exactly has the right to bump trance in their car which will wont mean trance is commercialized?

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Originally posted by TuanAnh213 ummm...i bump trance in my car everytime i drive...so if you drove past my car while i was bumping trance...you're gonna worry that trance has become mainstream? okay so who exactly has the right to bump trance in their car which will wont mean trance is commercialized?

very right, just because someoen pumps trance in the car, doesnt mean it is mainstream, maybe it means they like it alot, but who gives a fuck, i mean, remember, its just music, if you like it, then who cares who else listens to it.

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Originally posted by TuanAnh213 ummm...i bump trance in my car everytime i drive...so if you drove past my car while i was bumping trance...you're gonna worry that trance has become mainstream? okay so who exactly has the right to bump trance in their car which will wont mean trance is commercialized?

I don't see where I stated that no one has a right to listen to trance. I'm also pretty sure I said i'd worry when that happened since not many listen to trance around these parts, it's all hip hop, but nowhere did I say trance was commercialized if someone was pumping it in their car. Thanks for putting words in my mouth though

trance will not become mainstream in america guaranteed in the next 10 years

were so ignorant we listen to eminem

there was a news story about how a kid in grade school was made fun of because he didn't know who eminem was.

it turned out he didn't have cable and now he feels bad

Trance will not become mainstream in America...period. Most people in this country get bored with anything that deviates from the verse-chorus-verse vocal structure. Instrumental tracks never get anywhere here. Even Robert Miles' "Children", which saw quite a bit of radio play for awhile, I don't believe ever ended up breaking the Top 40.

Europe has always been more opened-minded in terms of musical diversity. Most people I know only like something if its on the radio or MTV

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Originally posted by fridgefan Most people I know only like something if its on the radio or MTV

My friends are like that too. They always say" Well if it's on the radio or TV, then it's gotta be good right? Plus, most of my friends just bash raves and the whole electronic culture.

i'm addicted to trance a 6-7 years now -- actually have to agree -- the great part of trance tracks has not a great quality and u can call it commercial because it's easy made [or with cheesy vocals] and so also liked by *normal* people --- there are good tracks but they are really hard to find !!! ---

Ok Nadi time to respond. :P Well, as far as trance becoming popular in the USA won't change it much. Just because something is popular does not bring down the quality in the production / mix. If it ever did start becoming popular in the USA, it would not stick on. Half the country is sucked up into the pop-culture listening to rap and pop just because it's popular. If trance did become as popular as that commercial rap you hear in the USA, I would not give a shit at all. For one, I don't like trance. And second as long as the productions don't turn into shit like ATB, Alice Deejay and such, why complain? Meh...

god forbid should trance be mainstream, then it will lose all of its dignity like all the other mainstream genres of music have... alternative rock, hip-hop, country, pop, & rnb.

Frankly however, I doubt trance will ever stoop so low as to place several songs on TRL, although it would be a welcome relief from the barrage of crap released in the name of music today.

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Originally posted by mndeg were so ignorant we listen to eminem

Is it not ignorant to judge someone based on his music, or to judge a group of people based on the musical prefrences of a select few? :P

In all seriousness though, a lot of the music that everyone dismisses, as crappy trl shit, is still awful popular, yet some of us can't stand it. It's exactly the same way with electronic music, it's incredibly popular in some area's yet some people generalize it and write it off right away. It's amazing how those situations are so similar :P

I guess what I wanted to say, but couldnt really figure out how to say it is that there's nothing wrong with trance or anything else being comercial, and that people need to stop justifying what they listen to as commercial or non-comercial, and just enjoy it.

Also why does everyone hope that trance never becomes popular in the u.s? If it stays in its current form, yet becomes more popular, than you can watch tv and listen to stuff you like, and there will probably be a lot more good stuff coming out.

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Originally posted by Linx_da_cat trance can get as commercial or popular as it wants. to be honest, i wouldn't care. what i would care about is the quality of the tracks that get churned out. you could look at it this way, if the quality of trance nowadays carries over and becomes commercialized. great! then we wouldn't be having "commercial trax suck" arguments anymore. heh. i mean how great would it be to have the general public LOVING the quality of trance we here @ tranceaddict uphold? it'd fooking rule.

i agree with this comment, however, my main fear is that people would expect the same thing all the time, thus turning anything that is produced later considered 'cheese' (i.e. Ian Van Dahl)

There is little chance that trance will become mainstream for several reason. First of all it's not so passive as others genres. For example one can easily listen to pop or R n'B while shopping or drinking coffee or whatever. But I doubt anyone could do those same things listening to Dumonde or PvD....
Then there is the lack of lyrics which is a major "drawback" since most people who are not into music in some way (DJing or playing some instrument) can't really relate to melodies but can easily relate to vocal lines.
So I don't think trance is going to become commercial anytime soon (or anytime at all to be honest).

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