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U guys crack me up

99.9% of the threads in this room are about how America is bad blah blah blah....

instead if yacking about it alllllllll day and having the SAAAMMMEEE retarted never-ending circle of conversations...why dont u take all your anger and join Al-Queida?/....just kidding....

but seriously i bet the majority of you would not last a minute on REAL political forums...all your views are quite bland and are based on your 16-18 year old educations....

stop whining and email some congress men or governers in America ....people who talk and talk and tlak about this crap are the same people who dont do anything about it...

I KNOW u cant change much, if anything, but atleast your efforts and views would be VALID.....

ok continue with the hating of America....enjoy

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Originally posted by tiesto14 ok continue with the hating of America....enjoy

We will!

Wow, how incredibly stupid......

At this point in time, there are a lot of threads about America. And rightfully so. America is the one's making the news right now. As for the reason everyones "bashing" America, is because the majority of the world disagrees with much of America's foreign policy.

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Originally posted by Nadi As for the reason everyones "bashing" America, is because the majority of the world disagrees with much of America's foreign policy.

um doesnt the majority of the world disagree Iraq? Iran? Al Queda? etc etc....

dont gimme that...that was poor exscuse.....

like i said u guys argueing about it is equal to a bunch of old ladies bickering over the price of Wonder Bread on half price Tuesdays at a supermarket....

i mean if it really bothers u that much then do something about it....there are leters u should be writing and so forth...

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Originally posted by tiesto14 um doesnt the majority of the world disagree

Why not? It's the truth. I know I don't support war on iraq regardless of there weapon status, the U.S "war on the taliban and terrorism" has been nothing short of illegal, and disgracefull. Keep in mind I live in the U.S, think about how much more extreme people outside of the country feel :P

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Originally posted by tiesto14 um doesnt the majority of the world disagree Iraq? Iran? Al Queda? etc etc....

NO. Only the US does. (With the exception of Al qaeda of course)

You combine Iran and Iraq and Al Quieda as if they are the same....Tell me.. what has Iran done recently that is remotely related to terrorism? Iraq has so far shown that they have no weapons of mass destruction... and the majority of the world .. including the UN does not approve of an attack on Iraq.
Please dont type your indoctrinated views.. they are wrong.

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like i said u guys argueing about it is equal to a bunch of old ladies bickering over the price of Wonder Bread on half price Tuesdays at a supermarket.... i mean if it really bothers u that much then do something about it....there are leters u should be writing and so forth...

This is a politcal debate forum where people participate by arguing their views....if you have a problem with it.. dont participate.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King This is a politcal debate forum where people participate by arguing their views....if you have a problem with it.. dont participate.

ya but u guys just go in circles with ZERO progress...and its all basically the same arguements from the Chill Out Room...until u guys got your own room.....only thing that has changed is your post count...

seems kinda mindless....but hey enjoy...

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Originally posted by tiesto14 ya but u guys just go in circles with ZERO progress...and its all basically the same arguements from the Chill Out Room...until u guys got your own room.....only thing that has changed is your post count... seems kinda mindless....but hey enjoy...

The point of discusions isn' to change anything, its to express our points of view, as well as learn about other ways of looking at situations. In fact I'd say, this is one of the few useless threads we've had here.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 ya but u guys just go in circles with ZERO progress...and its all basically the same arguements from the Chill Out Room...until u guys got your own room.....only thing that has changed is your post count... seems kinda mindless....but hey enjoy...

Maybe you think that debating is "mindless"/... but many people here have gained a better understanding of politcal issues by participating in this forum....therefore.. we have "progressed" by gaining knowledge and forming argumentative skills.

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Originally posted by Nadi The point of discusions isn' to change anything, its to express our points of view, as well as learn about other ways of looking at situations. In fact I'd say, this is one of the few useless threads we've had here.

Very well said....Tiesto14..this thread is mindless.

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Originally posted by Nadi The point of discusions isn' to change anything, its to express our points of view, as well as learn about other ways of looking at situations. In fact I'd say, this is one of the few useless threads we've had here.

i understand the concept of a discussion....

however when u have 30 people argueing against America and maybe 1 or 2 defending America..seems kinda pointless...like i said its like a group of people who all hate cars and putting them in a room to talk bad about cars...with the occasional automotive enthusiast who will enter every couple days while you guys all swear/curse at him/her and proclaim that you have this grand knowledge and the dumb foolish enthusiast aka American is brain-washed by the media and is just plain dumb....

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Originally posted by tiesto14 i understand the concept of a discussion.... however when u have 30 people argueing against America and maybe 1 or 2 defending America..seems kinda pointless...like i said its like a group of people who all hate cars and putting them in a room to talk bad about cars...with the occasional automotive enthusiast who will enter every couple days while you guys all swear/curse at him/her and proclaim that you have this grand knowledge and the dumb foolish enthusiast aka American is brain-washed by the media and is just plain dumb....

There are a handful of pro-american arguments made here and there.. although not as many as their recipricol. Stop exagerrating with "1 or 2". The fact is.. many people here do not agree with the actions of the United States....Plain and simple... just like many people did not agree with Hitler.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Very well said....Tiesto14..this thread is mindless.

whoa...my discussion is mindless?...but maybe u will gain some "argumentative skills"


mindless is a bunch of Europeans/Canadians writing on the internet how much they think America is trash and whenever an American speaks up he is a moron and then gets bombarded with insults....NOW THATS MINDLESS.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 whoa...my discussion is mindless?...but maybe u will gain some "argumentative skills"

And yes.. your thread is stupid...you are just bickering becuase you cant stand the truth that everyone around the world somehow dislikes your nation.

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mindless is a bunch of Europeans/Canadians writing on the internet how much they think America is trash and whenever an American speaks up he is a moron and then gets bombarded with insults....NOW THATS MINDLESS.

Mindless is when mindless americans disagree with Canadanian/European viewpoints that are validated.. and then calling them mindless!

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Mindless is when mindless americans disagree with Canadanian/European viewpoints that are validated.. and then calling them mindless!

i never disagreed or agreed with anything...so not sure what you are talking about. And i find no validity from anything i read politically wise on a trance forum. Does not mean i do not beleive or disbeleive what is said, just that i like it from educated well respected sources. No offense.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 i never disagreed or agreed with anything...so not sure what you are talking about. And i find no validity from anything i read politically wise on a trance forum. Does not mean i do not beleive or disbeleive what is said, just that i like it from educated well respected sources. No offense.

How do you know if im not a poli-sci or history graduate? Just becuase people are debating on a trance forum doesnt mean they are not getting their sources from educated periodices or lectures by professors who have studied this their whole lives. To let you know.. i get most of my knowledge from unfunded agencies and readings from EDUCATED AND RESPECTED linguistics professors like Noam Chomsky.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King And yes.. your thread is stupid...you are just bickering becuase you cant stand the truth that everyone around the world somehow dislikes your nation.

I really could care-less if soemone hates my country...

but how cann u be so absurd and MINDLESS to say EVERYONE(which is the word u chose and i quoted) EVERYONE around the world somehow dislikes my nation?...thats ridiculouse...have you met everyone in the world?..i am in the world and i dotn dislike my nation...majority of my friends like my nation and they are in the world...and did u ask anyone from the jungles of the Amazon if they somehow hate America?...no what was MINDLESS an immature..

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Originally posted by tiesto14 I really could care-less if soemone hates my country... but how cann u be so absurd and MINDLESS to say EVERYONE(which is the word u chose and i quoted) EVERYONE around the world somehow dislikes my nation?...thats ridiculouse...have you met everyone in the world?..i am in the world and i dotn dislike my nation...majority of my friends like my nation and they are in the world...and did u ask anyone from the jungles of the Amazon if they somehow hate America?...no what was MINDLESS an immature..

OK.. relax.. i meant MANY.... sorry my bad. I was just typing away...

And its "know"...not "no"

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Originally posted by Cyrus King OK.. relax.. i meant MANY.... sorry my bad.

see u read Chomsky and u claim to be so educated yet u made such a silly mistake....and u can not even say MANY....because u really do not know...so basically you are making assumptions based on your own beleifs and the beleifs of the people u have met in your life..now i ask u how can u make that judgement based on knowledge...you cant unless u where to gather up every person and that asks them each...

Free societies do not intimidate through cruelty and conquest.


The US has bombed civilians indiscriminately (Vietnam, Iraq, Serbia, Afghanistan);


attempted to assassinate heads of government (Congo, Cuba, Libya, Iran);


subverted democratic elections (Greece, Guatemala, Chile);


blockaded civilian supplies of food and medicine (Nicaragua, Iraq, Cuba);


supported policies of rape, torture and mass killing (Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador);


and backed regimes responsible for some of the world�s worst human rights violations (Indonesia, Zaire, Iran, South Korea, Israel, Philippines).

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Originally posted by tiesto14 see u read Chomsky and u claim to be so educated yet u made such a silly mistake....and u can not even say MANY....because u really do not know...so basically you are making assumptions based on your own beleifs and the beleifs of the people u have met in your life..now i ask u how can u make that judgement based on knowledge...you cant unless u where to gather up every person and that asks them each...

When I mean many.....i mean MILLIONS... is that many to you? And dont tell me thats wrong.

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Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior Free societies do not intimidate through cruelty and conquest. The US has bombed civilians indiscriminately (Vietnam, Iraq, Serbia, Afghanistan); attempted to assassinate heads of government (Congo, Cuba, Libya, Iran); subverted democratic elections (Greece, Guatemala, Chile); blockaded civilian supplies of food and medicine (Nicaragua, Iraq, Cuba); supported policies of rape, torture and mass killing (Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador); and backed regimes responsible for some of the world�s worst human rights violations (Indonesia, Zaire, Iran, South Korea, Israel, Philippines).

oh Christ a anti-American conspiracy theorist with an oxymoron name....ok big guy...proove every word u said....show articles/transcripts/quotes/books/periodicales/pictures something to back it all up...dont go around sayign things if u can not show proof...or do u beleive in UFOs aswell?

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Originally posted by tiesto14 oh Christ a anti-American conspiracy theorist with an oxymoron name....ok big guy...proove every word u said....show articles/transcripts/quotes/books/periodicales/pictures something to back it all up...dont go around sayign things if u can not show proof...or do u beleive in UFOs aswell?

Proove that these didnt happen...Tiesto14.. stop living in your patriotic bubble and open your fucking

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Originally posted by Cyrus King When I mean many.....i mean MILLIONS... is that many to you? And dont tell me thats wrong.

i can not tell u if it is wrong or right....i wont make assumptios based on my views....which is what you ae doing....

i am sure that it IS in the millions...but then again i am sure u can ask those same people if they find something wrong with their own country that they would be able to...so really makes no difference.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 i can not tell u if it is wrong or right....i wont make assumptios based on my views....which is what you ae doing.... i am sure that it IS in the millions...but then again i am sure u can ask those same people if they find something wrong with their own country that they would be able to...so really makes no difference.

But there is an overwhelming consensus that they dislike the US in particular compared to say another random nation like... New Zealand.

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