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Posted by wozza on Jan-03-2003 20:46:

Building a PC?

ok ive decided that im gonna build a pc and was wondering if anyone knows if the listi have made would make a reasonable pc.

AMD Athlon XP2000+ CPU
Asus A7v333-x motherboard
512mb 133mhz dimm memory
3.5 1.44mb floppy disk drive
LG GCE4320 32x10x40x 12xDVD combi IDE CD Writer
Seagate 60GB Harddrive
Creative sounds - sound blaster live 5.1 oem soundcard
64MB Geforce MX400 AGP Graphics Card
ATX Case with clear side panel

Thx in advance
also im on a budget and if you could make recommendations i would be much apprectiated

wozza


Posted by Dmatrox on Jan-03-2003 21:10:

You call that a budget pc?

I think a normal Cd/dvd drive would be good if you want to copy cd to cd.

If you download a lot get a larger harddrive like 120gb

nice motherboard. sound card is good too. nvidia video cards are usually good.


Posted by jon on Jan-03-2003 21:18:

i would suggest you consider a nforce2 basses motherboard, they maybee a bit more expensive, but they are rock stable and offer 5.1 sound, saving u the need to buy a soundcard.


Posted by zapper on Jan-03-2003 21:40:

Looks like an good budget setup. The motherboard is nice even though it's a bit old, as it allows for upgrading to a 333mhz fsb cpu like the Athlon XP 2800+. If you want to play games, go for a better video card, the PoW GF4 Ti4200 64mb is good for a budget pc, and you can overclock it a lot as well. Remember, the MX series Geforce 4 cards are no faster than the ageing Geforce 2, which means almost unusable in todays games. It would be wise to wait a couple of weeks for the new Geforce FX to show up, as todays graphics card prices will drop a lot.

The most important thing is to make sure that the memory you are buying fits your motherboard, you need "PC2700 DDR-DIMM" or the cheaper but slower "PC2100 DDR-DIMM"

Also, remember that you need a heatsink for the cpu, otherwise it won't last long. It shouldn't be very expensive, something like 15$ I guess. Go for a silent one, as your cpu doesn't need a monster cooler.

Hope this helps!


Posted by puckhead on Jan-03-2003 22:09:

I would suggest you get a different brand motherboard because ASUS are good but very expensive. There are other good mobos that do the job just as well but cheaper.
You also want to get a decent power supply, and not some cheap one.
Plus what ^^^^^ they said.


Posted by wozza on Jan-03-2003 22:29:

could you recommend a motherboard that would take
pc133 memory cause i can get these cheap or is it wise to go for something else
and what graphics card would be good as i play alot of games

thx
wozza


Posted by DJ Chrono on Jan-03-2003 22:35:

Don't get the 64MB Geforce MX400 AGP Graphics Card,

MX cards are downgraded and not that good.

I have an Abit Siluro 64MB GeForce4 Ti4200 and it is alright, but even it struggles (when overclocked) with new games that are very demanding (for example morrowind and medal of honour).

Older games, or graphically less demanding ones, like counter-strike, neverwinter nights, age of mythologies, and even UT 2003 run smoothly with high settings.

SO I advise you dont go with any card less than a ti4200 (if you go with the Nvidea line).


Posted by TrAnCeAkI on Jan-03-2003 23:48:

They got these really cool modems here and you can add blacklights in them or any lights you want they are so awesome!! i think im gonna build one too!!!


Posted by Vizay on Jan-04-2003 00:20:

ok skip the 3,5 floppy station...never used anyway...

then get a decent cd-rom 2, can't make it without it

you should consider getting ddr ram instead of sdram too


Posted by Trancewave on Jan-04-2003 00:40:

I suggest you go for a second cd rom drive instead of the LG combo drive. Go for the Lite On 48X, it's cheap and rock solid. Having a second cdrom so you can burn on the fly.
I also like seagate drives. I've had a few and they've been rock solid never letting me down. Also if you're a gamer I suggest you get a better video card.
Also with memory prices so cheap nowadays why would you wanna stick with sdram? Go for DDR.


Posted by Mental Exodus on Jan-04-2003 00:50:

Be Cool!

Asus motherboards all tha way. Remember the most important thing is to get a keyboard with a piano keyboard atached. Very very handy.


Posted by AussieTrance on Jan-04-2003 02:10:

DDR RAM is a must for you - sdram is has almost become non-existant in the motherboard-support.

If sound is important - look at changing your sound card to the the Audigy 1 or 2 series, but dont get the ones with bays - waste of money

Same with graphics cards - If its of importance, look at going 128MB.

The rest looks fine.


Posted by mndeg on Jan-04-2003 06:08:

get a cheap radeon (9500) isntead of mx, mx is WAY too crappy, get either a plextor/tdk/ or a liteon CDRW/ they are all pretty good and liteon is the cheapest


Posted by mndeg on Jan-04-2003 06:08:

ddr ram of course because no one sells SDR ram anymore LOL, its for extremely old PC's


Posted by USMC_Greg on Jan-04-2003 06:56:

Re: Building a PC?

quote:
Originally posted by wozza
ok ive decided that im gonna build a pc and was wondering if anyone knows if the listi have made would make a reasonable pc.

AMD Athlon XP2000+ CPU
Asus A7v333-x motherboard
512mb 133mhz dimm memory
3.5 1.44mb floppy disk drive
LG GCE4320 32x10x40x 12xDVD combi IDE CD Writer
Seagate 60GB Harddrive
Creative sounds - sound blaster live 5.1 oem soundcard
64MB Geforce MX400 AGP Graphics Card
ATX Case with clear side panel

Thx in advance
also im on a budget and if you could make recommendations i would be much apprectiated

wozza



Your MoBo supports PC2700 DDR Ram. Why not use it?


Posted by ali92 on Jan-04-2003 18:27:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
ddr ram of course because no one sells SDR ram anymore LOL, its for extremely old PC's


How old are you talking about? My PC uses SDRAM and I bought it on 2001-09-16. It's a COMPAQ Presario 5080US. Intel Celeron at 800 MHz. 20 GB HDD.


Posted by netw3rkd on Jan-04-2003 18:54:

quote:
Originally posted by ali92
How old are you talking about? My PC uses SDRAM and I bought it on 2001-09-16. It's a COMPAQ Presario 5080US. Intel Celeron at 800 MHz. 20 GB HDD.




that is considered old man plus, celeron is shiit i know cus i have one :/ but in these times, a computer is old within 4 - 6 months or untill something faster comes out.


Posted by RanciD on Jan-04-2003 21:14:

The PC looks nice (a whole heck of a lot better than my Athlon 700 I'm on now hehe) but the some things I'd change are like said earlier, the ram.. you definitly want DDR. It's going to cost more it's worth it. The other thing I really think you should change is the video card. The GeForce 4 MX400 isn't a bad card but for $100 you could get a GeForce 3 TI500. Yes, it's a GeForce 3 but it's almost as good as the GF4 TI4400 which is a much nicer card than the GF4 MX440. Also, if you're planning to order this stuff online definitly use Pricewatch. You'll get the best prices there.


Posted by ali92 on Jan-04-2003 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by a-aplz
that is considered old man plus, celeron is shiit i know cus i have one :/ but in these times, a computer is old within 4 - 6 months or untill something faster comes out.


Actually a PC starts to get old when it's older than 3 months. I was just wondering because I know people who had PCs for over 3 years and they still use them... Faster things come out ALL THE TIME. So, is 3 months a bit too long? Maybe we ought to say that a PC is old when they start selling them in stores?


Posted by Master Kush on Jan-04-2003 22:25:

I have a similar pc so here a few suggestions:
-Good mobo, i have the same.It comes with sound integrated so unless you havea 4 or 5 speaker setup theres no need to buy a sound card.
-get the 2700 ram like everyone suggested, 256mb is fine, you can always add more later when prices drop
-get a GF4200, trust me, its well worth it if you play games. I have an MSI (its cheap and comes with a shitload of software/games). If you want to be able record video from your TV etc i suggest getting the card with tv in/out. Its only like $10-20 more.
-if you do get a GF4200, you must get a 350watt Powersupply. trust me . Then you wont have to worry about overheating so you can get a basic case and you wont need any extra fans.
-get the 80gig HD. I have a western digital and its great.

here is what my pc and it cost me ~$1000 cdn in september:
Asus A7v-333
AMD 1800xp
256mb 2700 ram
lg dvd rom
MSI GF4200 tv in/out
80gig WD hd 7200
and i already had a burner from my previous pc.
I use win2k btw and its solid like a rock.


Posted by netw3rkd on Jan-04-2003 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by ali92
Actually a PC starts to get old when it's older than 3 months. I was just wondering because I know people who had PCs for over 3 years and they still use them... Faster things come out ALL THE TIME. So, is 3 months a bit too long? Maybe we ought to say that a PC is old when they start selling them in stores?



And where did you get those statistics from? If I buy a new video card, then a new one comes out in 5 months then it won't be 3 months old. But hell, Celeron is slow...always has always will be.



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