MP3->WAV..Burning 800MB Audio on 700MB CDR...HOW...100MB Over

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Posted by tiesto14 on Jan-03-2003 23:41:

MP3->WAV..Burning 800MB Audio on 700MB CDR...HOW...100MB Over

I am using Nero to burn some live sets,,,,,but for some reason with my Nero i have to first convert the MP3 to WAV....which i do not mind at all.....

My question is this....my CDRs are 700MB but the WAV files are like 800 or 850 MB...how can a 700MB CDR burn a WAV that is 800/850MBs...thats OVER 100MB more then the CDR allows.....how is that possible?...

Am i losing any quality or parts of the set.....??

or is this normal.

Posted by Srezic on Jan-04-2003 00:31:

You must have an older version of Nero if you have to change to wav files. I can just make audio cds with my mp3 files and I use Nero as well.

I am not sure about your problem, but if anything I would look into nero's options, or get another Nero version.

Posted by tiesto14 on Jan-04-2003 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Srezic
You must have an older version of Nero if you have to change to wav files. I can just make audio cds with my mp3 files and I use Nero as well.

I am not sure about your problem, but if anything I would look into nero's options, or get another Nero version.

well i only have to convert to WAV when i want to use a CUE sheet...usually i dont..just with CUEs.....and it doesnt really bother me at all...i am just concerned about the MB thing.

Posted by BigDil on Jan-04-2003 01:23:

quote:
Audio data is stored on the disk in blocks, which are also sometimes called sectors. Each block holds 2,352 bytes of data, with an additional number of bytes used for error detection and correction, as well as control structures. Therefore, 75 blocks are required for each second of sound. On a standard 74-minute CD then, the total amount of storage is (2,352 * 75 * 74 * 60), which is 783,216,000 bytes or about 747 MB.

Source: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/cd/formatCDDA-c.html

Posted by tiesto14 on Jan-04-2003 01:56:

quote:
Originally posted by BigDil
Source: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/cd/formatCDDA-c.html

i really did not understand that...does that mean i am OK?....

the WAV = 800MB and i burned it on a 700MB CDR...i played it and it seemed ok...but whats the truth should i not of?

Posted by BigDil on Jan-04-2003 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
i really did not understand that...does that mean i am OK?....

the WAV = 800MB and i burned it on a 700MB CDR...i played it and it seemed ok...but whats the truth should i not of?

Um.. just read this part again: "On a standard 74-minute CD then, the total amount of storage is (2,352 * 75 * 74 * 60), which is 783,216,000 bytes or about 747 MB"

So if it's a 80' CD, its capacity is (2,352 * 75 * 80 * 60), 846,720,000 bytes, about 826 MB.
So the biggest wav file you could burn in Audio CD format is 826 MB.
Note that it's only when we're talking about Audio CD's... For exapmle, Data CD's are a whole different story.

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jan-05-2003 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by BigDil
Um.. just read this part again: "On a standard 74-minute CD then, the total amount of storage is (2,352 * 75 * 74 * 60), which is 783,216,000 bytes or about 747 MB"

So if it's a 80' CD, its capacity is (2,352 * 75 * 80 * 60), 846,720,000 bytes, about 826 MB.
So the biggest wav file you could burn in Audio CD format is 826 MB.
Note that it's only when we're talking about Audio CD's... For exapmle, Data CD's are a whole different story.

which translates to.. yup.. everything is fine

Posted by tiesto14 on Jan-05-2003 03:22:

LOL ok cool....thanks

Posted by flystyler on Jan-08-2003 15:02:

Overburn, just means it says it will burn, just cuts off the end.

Posted by BigDil on Jan-10-2003 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler
Overburn, just means it says it will burn, just cuts off the end.

erm... what about reading the replies above?

Posted by flystyler on Jan-11-2003 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by BigDil
erm... what about reading the replies above?

Excuse me?

Umm i have been on the forum long enough matey, i have read the replies, just thought i would say it anyways.

Call me a spammer if you wish, couldnt give a toss tbh :d

Posted by flystyler on Jan-11-2003 01:14:

Oh actually, an 80min cd is 700mb in size. So if the liveset is 80 mins it will have enough capacity for 80mins of wav. Regardless of size. Wot yr goin on about blah blah blahb 746mb, or woteva, the cd will tell u how big it is, 700mb = 80mins.

If the liveset or woteva is 80mins it will fit

End of story, if it isnt, it wont

Ahh its late, im waffling

Posted by tiesto14 on Jan-11-2003 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler
Oh actually, an 80min cd is 700mb in size. So if the liveset is 80 mins it will have enough capacity for 80mins of wav. Regardless of size. Wot yr goin on about blah blah blahb 746mb, or woteva, the cd will tell u how big it is, 700mb = 80mins.

If the liveset or woteva is 80mins it will fit

End of story, if it isnt, it wont

Ahh its late, im waffling

LOL....whats up Fly...havent heard from u in awhile...hope all is well..

Anyway...the sets i am burning are around 800MB WAVa give or take - on 700MB 80min CDs....the set times are on average 78-79 minutes long....and they SEEM to be burning fine....regardless of the MBs.....so i guess all is fine....

lata

Posted by teklord310 on Jan-11-2003 04:45:

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler
Oh actually, an 80min cd is 700mb in size. So if the liveset is 80 mins it will have enough capacity for 80mins of wav. Regardless of size. Wot yr goin on about blah blah blahb 746mb, or woteva, the cd will tell u how big it is, 700mb = 80mins.

If the liveset or woteva is 80mins it will fit

End of story, if it isnt, it wont

Ahh its late, im waffling

Yep!

You can cut it off using Nero. Or you can break the set into tracks, double click on the track in Nero and go to indexes/splits. Split it up there. gluck!

Posted by flystyler on Jan-11-2003 11:18:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
LOL....whats up Fly...havent heard from u in awhile...hope all is well..

Anyway...the sets i am burning are around 800MB WAVa give or take - on 700MB 80min CDs....the set times are on average 78-79 minutes long....and they SEEM to be burning fine....regardless of the MBs.....so i guess all is fine....

lata

Posted by BigDil on Jan-12-2003 13:08:

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler
Excuse me?
Umm i have been on the forum long enough matey, i have read the replies, just thought i would say it anyways.

Noone asked how long you've been on the forum, so...
The only promblem is that it has nothing to do with overburning. That's why I told you to read the replies again.

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler
Oh actually, an 80min cd is 700mb in size.

Yea, 700mb, in case you burn it as data cd.

quote:
So if the liveset is 80 mins it will have enough capacity for 80mins of wav. Regardless of size.

Exactly.

Posted by flystyler on Jan-14-2003 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by BigDil
Noone asked how long you've been on the forum, so...
The only promblem is that it has nothing to do with overburning. That's why I told you to read the replies again.

Dont talk to me like i am a noob then!!!!

I read the threads, but im saying that nero has an overburn function. So u could burn a 90min liveset on a 80min cd, but nero would cut off the last 10mins. Now shush

Posted by BigDil on Jan-15-2003 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler
Dont talk to me like i am a noob then!!!!

I read the threads, but im saying that nero has an overburn function. So u could burn a 90min liveset on a 80min cd, but nero would cut off the last 10mins. Now shush

I think I get it now. So you just wanted to add that nero has this function... well I don't think this thread is about listing all the feautres of nero.
Nevertheless, the thread starter's problem seems to be solved, and I think we basically agree, so it's all right!