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Posted by JohnSmith on Jan-04-2003 19:17:

Can you switch the stylus on stanton integrated needles?

I have these:



but i am not too impressed with the quality. i get a hissing noise on some songs, even when i put lots of weight on them. they tend to skip a bit, and overall they don't sound that good.

I was wondering if i should get the standard replacement stylii:

STANTON REPLACEMENT STYLUS FOR TM-2-SK (2 PACK)

2 for $34.99

or, if i could substitute these ones:

STANTON REPLACEMENT STYLUS FOR GROOVEMASTER-RM

1 for 49.99

The second ones are more expensive, so i'd think they'd be better?

or there is also these ones:

STANTON REPLACEMENT STYLUS FOR TM-2-RS (2 PACK)

they didn't have a good picture of just the stylus, but they are 2 for $45

maybe these would be better? can i even switch them around like this or not?


Posted by Phu on Jan-04-2003 22:51:

First of all are they the sk2 or sk1.


Posted by DJ Charlie on Jan-05-2003 00:47:

quote:
Originally posted by dj phu
First of all are they the sk2 or sk1.

TrackMaster 2 SK

so its SK2


Posted by Phu on Jan-05-2003 03:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Charlie
TrackMaster 2 SK

so its SK2
I think its stanton trackmaster II sk.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jan-05-2003 08:03:

yes, that is correct they are trackmaster II SKs

which is strange, because they don't look QUITE like the ones on pssl.com? they have a striped arrow, not a solid one.


Posted by Phu on Jan-05-2003 10:45:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
yes, that is correct they are trackmaster II SKs

which is strange, because they don't look QUITE like the ones on pssl.com? they have a striped arrow, not a solid one.
To tell u the truth i got the same needle as you and i had no problems with them and my buddy has the groove master and they sound very similar to mine.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jan-05-2003 18:14:

well, they aren't horrible, but they seem to have hissy high end sometimes.

what weight do you run them at? I have mine set on 2.5 usually, and sometimes crank it up to 3.5 if i really don't want them to skip, or if the hissing is annoying me.


Posted by DJ Darchinova on Jan-07-2003 04:42:

I have TII-SK's and i've taken people's advice for more weight (!) and i haven't recently heard hissing.. so its not really a major problem now.\


I've tried the Trackmaster II Roger Sanchez (RS) version and it is no different to the SK version. It also still hisses without enough weight.

I'm not sure about the Groovemasters, but i heard they don't track as good as the SK but the quality is better. I'd opt for the GM-RM.


Posted by Phu on Jan-07-2003 08:40:

I have mine at 2.5 too. I use the groovemaster every weekend and the only thing i've notice is it has more bass.


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jan-09-2003 21:18:

stanton


Posted by The Greener on Jan-12-2003 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by dj phu
I have mine at 2.5 too. I use the groovemaster every weekend and the only thing i've notice is it has more bass.


Come on Phu....The GroovemasterII's sound way better with the elliptical Stylii. The output on the G-II-RM-MP is higher and more suitable for our music.

With your Track-masters being spherical stylii, you are giving up sound quality and output for tracking capabilities.

Buy the appropriate needles and remember!!!!

Elliptical Stylii - easier on records, and sound better
Spherical Stylii - for scratching, sharper "point" will track in the grooves better. but wears records more.

Its like saying the diff. between your Ford Escort and my Ferarri is. "there pretty much the the same but the ferrari is a little faster


Posted by The Greener on Jan-12-2003 18:07:

Re: Can you switch the stylus on stanton integrated needles?

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
I have these:



but i am not too impressed with the quality. i get a hissing noise on some songs, even when i put lots of weight on them. they tend to skip a bit, and overall they don't sound that good.

I was wondering if i should get the standard replacement stylii:

STANTON REPLACEMENT STYLUS FOR TM-2-SK (2 PACK)

2 for $34.99

or, if i could substitute these ones:

STANTON REPLACEMENT STYLUS FOR GROOVEMASTER-RM

1 for 49.99

The second ones are more expensive, so i'd think they'd be better?

or there is also these ones:

STANTON REPLACEMENT STYLUS FOR TM-2-RS (2 PACK)

they didn't have a good picture of just the stylus, but they are 2 for $45

maybe these would be better? can i even switch them around like this or not?


I have wondered this myself.... I have around 10 used GII-RM Stylii, kicking around if you wanna try it.

I spent weeks debating the Trackmaster II's and Groovemaster II's and after reading this thread, the G-II's were the right choice!


Posted by The Greener on Jan-12-2003 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by dj phu
To tell u the truth i got the same needle as you and i had no problems with them and my buddy has the groove master and they sound very similar to mine.

I don't agree buddy, two totally different sounds.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jan-12-2003 20:01:

Re: Re: Can you switch the stylus on stanton integrated needles?

quote:
Originally posted by The Greener
I have wondered this myself.... I have around 10 used GII-RM Stylii, kicking around if you wanna try it.

I spent weeks debating the Trackmaster II's and Groovemaster II's and after reading this thread, the G-II's were the right choice!


yeah, when i was first buying my stuff, i was lead to believe that trackmasters were better than groove masters. I guess that is not true? anyway, yeah if you want to send me some of your stylus so i can try for an experiment that would be great.

i just switched the stanton ones for the spare set they sound good now, but not as good as i'd like.

if you say the sounds are totally different, then what is the difference?


Posted by The Greener on Jan-12-2003 22:17:

Re: Re: Re: Can you switch the stylus on stanton integrated needles?

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
yeah, when i was first buying my stuff, i was lead to believe that trackmasters were better than groove masters. I guess that is not true? anyway, yeah if you want to send me some of your stylus so i can try for an experiment that would be great.

i just switched the stanton ones for the spare set they sound good now, but not as good as i'd like.

if you say the sounds are totally different, then what is the difference?


Like Phu said more Bass.

Had two unplayed Eon-Talk to me(Tsunami)Records... its the B-side of Eon-Pocket Damage. Let me tell you that this is the Most Incredible "Intro" Tune I have heard in Years! Still even to the Cristalle Intro. The Sound Quality Ferry Mastered outta this song is one of the best I have ever heard. The first time I heard it I knew after 10 sec. that this was the BOMB I was gonna start with at that chillawack outdoor gig last summer, forgot the name

Anyways....

With the Groove and the Track side by side, the Trackmaster went first(no mixing of course). It sounded good, not any diff from most good Headshell types. I wouldn't complain if they were used where I go.

Then I started the Groove II's. When that first Bass and Pipe Note hit on that tune you could hear right away the difference. The Bass was lower, more refined and musical. You hear Separated Bass notes. It blew me away BIGTIME with the difference. The songs had more dynamic range

Forgot to mention his Trackmasters were brand spanking new. My Groove II's had half expired Stylii on them. They have seen many needle replacements meaning there not NEW!!

I looked at my buddy and said you saved $50.00, got two free stylii and that fancy case. Cool!!!


Posted by JohnSmith on Jan-12-2003 22:49:

dammit. sounds like i shoulda got GMs.

but, i will need to buy new stylus soon, i wonder if i can put the stylus of the GM on my TMs?


Posted by DJ Charlie on Jan-13-2003 01:41:

I feel like I did a big lost of money... I could have bought anything else It would have sound better I'm sure of that.


yeap... next needles will be the shure's whitel label... or something similar.



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