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Posted by Aldrian on Jan-05-2003 19:49:

what are the odds of being a club dj? hard as hell!

i think i have a better chance of being an extra in a movie than being a dj for a club. it's hard competition out there. plus there will be billions of people that have way more talents and that whole vinyl vs cd is definately come into place.

isn't there a thing people can do for a living like making music for video games, or movies, or for commercials? i might start going to school for that profession. i have experience with acid and reason so at least i have a stepping stone in my hands.


Posted by bigjimslade002 on Jan-05-2003 20:41:

yep it's tough.competition is massive out there.you just got to keep at it.play in front of your friends,get their advice on how you sound(preferably friends that like the kind of music you play thier more in tune with how a mix should sound usually)ask around and see if there are any house parties you can play at.(for free of course people like when they hear the word free)check your local college and see if there's an opportunity for you to play there(even better if you go to college)and the thing i think is the most critical which i'll be doing in a couple of weeks is record your own set into your computer so you can make a cd comp so you can review how you sound yourself.the more you play in front of people the more word of mouth will spread about you.for instance,someone my girlfriend knew wanted to have a birthday party for his girl at my girlfriends bar, and knew that i dj'ed so i told him i'd play at her party for free for the crowd experience.this was not really a trance crowd except for a few, so me and a friend worked some 80's trance remixes in throughout the set and it was enough to get the crowd going to mix it up some more.and when we finished he said we were great and gave us 50 bucks.50 bucks for something i would have done for nothing.it was a great pick me up and give me hope that i could possibly play at a club someday.
















GIVE TRANCE A CHANCE....


Posted by Dahippieman on Jan-05-2003 21:57:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by bigjimslade002
yep it's tough.competition is massive out there.you just got to keep at it.play in front of your friends,get their advice on how you sound(preferably friends that like the kind of music you play thier more in tune with how a mix should sound usually)ask around and see if there are any house parties you can play at.(for free of course people like when they hear the word free)check your local college and see if there's an opportunity for you to play there(even better if you go to college)and the thing i think is the most critical which i'll be doing in a couple of weeks is record your own set into your computer so you can make a cd comp so you can review how you sound yourself.the more you play in front of people the more word of mouth will spread about you.for instance,someone my girlfriend knew wanted to have a birthday party for his girl at my girlfriends bar, and knew that i dj'ed so i told him i'd play at her party for free for the crowd experience.this was not really a trance crowd except for a few, so me and a friend worked some 80's trance remixes in throughout the set and it was enough to get the crowd going to mix it up some more.and when we finished he said we were great and gave us 50 bucks.50 bucks for something i would have done for nothing.it was a great pick me up and give me hope that i could possibly play at a club someday.

dope attitude


Posted by Tony Morello on Jan-05-2003 23:48:

sometimes you don't even need the skills

in this industry of who you know and not what you know
i've seen some VERY horrible djs
but because they know someone they're given a shot

get out and meet people
make a demo and put it in the hands of promoters
buy drinks, talk, have fun

that's what i did
i've met quite a few people
all i need is to give them cds


Posted by _Nut_ on Jan-06-2003 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav
sometimes you don't even need the skills

in this industry of who you know and not what you know
i've seen some VERY horrible djsbecause they know someone they're given a shot
but

get out and meet people
make a demo and put it in the hands of promoters
buy drinks, talk, have fun

that's what i did
i've met quite a few people
all i need is to give them cds




Oh how true is this. The only thing... if you are to become a club DJ you need to know everything and know how to mix everything. I found this out the hard way last year. I am lucky enough to know insiders and that is how i got a spot being a resident @ a club called Amnesia just outside of Chicago. Only problem. Trance doesnt fly here. ( which is why i moved back underground to the raves ) So unless people pay you alot to play trance... you may get a shot at one night, but depending on where you are..... you may have the dance floor empty. Dont let that get you down tho. Dreams are what build people and in all honesty it is kinda a bitch thinking.. wtf should i play next to keep the crowd going, a proven floor filler tho old or some new tune that may have 2 outcomes... dance floor mania or total floor emptier. But that is what is fun. Experimenting. If trance is your thing and you are in the states (dunno where el rancho is ) goto some good parties and pass out demos. Know the promotors and the party throwers. hell. offer to promote for them. Get to know em, give em your promo and you may have connections built by them.

All it comes down to is:

who you know...... they will either make you or break you.


Posted by Kimmi on Jan-06-2003 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav
sometimes you don't even need the skills

in this industry of who you know and not what you know
i've seen some VERY horrible djs
but because they know someone they're given a shot


That's how it is everywhere in the world with almost everything, which is sad. It's WHO you know, how you look, etc. Not always what you can do


Posted by _Nut_ on Jan-06-2003 01:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Kimmi
That's how it is everywhere in the world with almost everything, which is sad. It's WHO you know, how you look, etc. Not always what you can do



Exactly. IMO some of the best mixes put are done by one type of DJ. The bedroom. They are not influenced by $$$ or anything else, they just churn out some of the greatest and flawless mixes


Posted by BTG on Jan-06-2003 01:49:

how come i only reconise 1 person in this thread? Hrmm


Posted by _Nut_ on Jan-06-2003 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
how come i only reconise 1 person in this thread? Hrmm


Is Sunday.. You drinkin tonight?


Posted by undertensecond on Jan-06-2003 15:12:

tough dude!


Posted by KoreanDJ on Jan-06-2003 17:22:

It's not that hard really......you just have to know people But don't take advantage of knowing people....please atleast master beat matching I've seen DJs who cant even beat match.

Steve


Posted by kr00t0n on Jan-06-2003 18:20:

talent and who you know play big parts, just as location does.
obvioulsy you wont become a club dj in Kenya... there arent any clubs...

This applies to where-ever in the world you are, more clubs means more chance of making it


Posted by Magnus on Jan-06-2003 22:39:

DJ_Shockwav is right on. Its all about who you know. I feel very priviledged to have gotten my first club gig after only 5 months of spinning while my other friends, some that had been spinning years, had not a single one. This is simply because I got to know a promoter through one of my friends. He continues to be the only reason I get gigs. He has helped another one of my friends too who is just as new to spinning as I am. This guy is getting gigs all over the place now. Then once you get started, everything begins to snowball. You meet other DJs at gigs, those that spin before and after you, and they in turn shoot the shit with you and before you know it your friends with them and they want you for gigs too. Its that whole getting your foot in the door thing. We have all seen the horrible ass DJs up on the decks and wondered WTF is up with that. Garaunteed he is close friends with the promoter or knows someone running the show. My advice is to try to meet and talk with as many people as you can at parties and shows and someday, you'll meet the right person and they will get you started.



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