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Posted by J.L. on Jan-09-2003 07:10:

Realistic sounding strings...

just wondering... do you guys use samples or synths for strings?

i generally find it hard to make very realistic strings (something that sounds like what you would hear in a movie soundtrack)

how do you guys make your strings sound as real as possible?

Posted by Trancevision on Jan-09-2003 15:53:

I heard that in Reason 2.0 an orchester library is included. There should be realistic strings sounds like in a movie...

Trancevision

Posted by brash on Jan-09-2003 16:59:

I just got a Roland M-SE1 for this. But I am not concerned with actually fooling people into thinking it is a real string, just getting that sort of sound. I'm sure you can find samples for strings, too.

If you want very real sounds, you will want a very expensive sample set. Otherwise you can probably get some free sample and/or a sound module like the SE1.

Posted by J.L. on Jan-09-2003 23:49:

ok... the thing is i can make the strings sound pretty real through Equing and using various samples for various part of a string ensemble (violin, viola, cello, bass)

my only problem is that it is hard to get the strings to come in smoothly...

like it either sounds like a keyboard synth where it comes in abruptly or it sounds too much like a "woh" sound... like it's hard to get the attack sounding just right...
i have been trying to compensate this by using some reverb and having a slower attack but i'm sure there is a better way....

i'll try to post a pic up later to explain in more detail as this sounds a bit confusing probably

Posted by coby on Jan-11-2003 10:30:

I just use the string from my synth... (sample based synth)

Posted by TranceInMySoul on Jan-12-2003 16:07:

There is so much detail in a real string sound that the only way to faithfully reproduce it is sampling. A sound module (for example the Roland JVs or XVs) can do a reasonable job, otherwise you want some sample CDs.

If you want samples, watch for:
Dan Dean Solo Strings (AKAI or Gigasampler)
Miroslav Vitous series (loads of formats)
Garritan Orchestral Strings (Gigasampler only)
Vienna Symphonic Library - Strings (Gigasampler only)

Oh, forgot to mention, the new Atmosphere software sound module from Spectrasonics has some nice string sounds in

Posted by Etherium on Jan-25-2003 03:34:

Do you have atmosphere, I heard it is Increbible with a capital I.

Posted by TranceInMySoul on Jan-25-2003 21:42:

Yes I have got Atmosphere. And I love it

Posted by quddha on Jan-25-2003 22:37:

heres a string preset someone made using buzz machines.

http://quddha.mine.nu/evelonstrings.mp3

Posted by J.L. on Jan-26-2003 07:43:

whoa!!! those strings are beautiful... almost made me cry

but yeah... those are the type of strings i'm trying to make...

Posted by CrackedLcd on Jan-26-2003 08:17:

I have yet gotten a good string sound out of a vsti(most likely my lack of skill)...I get really good strings out of my korg n364....my yamaha psr-540 is only good for strings....I'[ve gotten a few dorty sounding strings out of my pro-52.

Posted by cyrus2k2 on Jan-26-2003 13:01:

quote:
Originally posted by quddha
heres a string preset someone made using buzz machines.

http://quddha.mine.nu/evelonstrings.mp3

AWESOME!
do you remember the names of those machines?

Posted by quddha on Jan-27-2003 07:59:

quote:
Originally posted by cyrus2k2
AWESOME!
do you remember the names of those machines?

its the FSM infector (a subtractive synth), with 2 PWM square waves, and the 6L multipeak filter.

it routes to 3 outputs (buzz being modular), 1 output to a WahPRO machine and the FSM chorus, jeskola ninja delay, and then a jeskola raverb.

1 output goes to a vibrato machine (pitch modulation) -> fsm panzerdelay -> sonic verb.

then there's one dry output goes thruogh an eq and to the sonic verb. most of the sound is from the wet reverb output.

Honestly, you dont' really need all those machines, most of it is just to tweak the sound. The sound really comes from the infector through the reverb, and the vibrato gives it that lifelike quality.

Posted by cyrus2k2 on Jan-27-2003 22:14:

thanks quddha!

just grabbed buzz again and downloaded that 'track' from buzzmachines.com.
i must repeat it: awesome!

Posted by attacc on Jan-28-2003 09:22:

Atmoshphere has got some really nice strings I think

Posted by DJ Dowlz on Jan-31-2003 04:14:

Spectrasonics Atmosphere has some fantastic sounding strings. I particularly like "Dreamy string orchestra", "Dark and moody string orchestra" and "Hollywood studio string section". Mind you, I think the default attack setting is a little too high, so I would recommend you lower it to something more like 0.2sec.

Posted by Flotser on Jan-31-2003 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by quddha
its the FSM infector (a subtractive synth), with 2 PWM square waves, and the 6L multipeak filter.

it routes to 3 outputs (buzz being modular), 1 output to a WahPRO machine and the FSM chorus, jeskola ninja delay, and then a jeskola raverb.

1 output goes to a vibrato machine (pitch modulation) -> fsm panzerdelay -> sonic verb.

then there's one dry output goes thruogh an eq and to the sonic verb. most of the sound is from the wet reverb output.

Honestly, you dont' really need all those machines, most of it is just to tweak the sound. The sound really comes from the infector through the reverb, and the vibrato gives it that lifelike quality.

Cool stuff , thanx for the info, do you have the buzz file of it?
thanx

i'll try to do this in fruity,buzz-machines, and use fruity's effects

Posted by cyrus2k2 on Jan-31-2003 23:57:

try this one: http://web.hibo.no/~mva/reviewfiles...viestrings5.bmw

Posted by Flotser on Feb-01-2003 22:27:

thanx alot