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I am being open minded, but nobody has properly adressed the control and mixing issues..(well modular did, apart from my love of nobs )also can ANYONE stick a list of pros up that use a soft synth..> Ive not come across any yet, all the trance studio set-ups on the TA links show that they use emus and akais..(usually not oldies like s2000 though) can anyone adress this point? I really am considering the soft route mind..maybe I should mail blank and jones..there freindly about their set-up..!

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Originally posted by moog_baby can ANYONE stick a list of pros up that use a soft synth..

Are you asking if there are "pros" (I assume you mean people you've heard of) who use softsynths? Or are you asking if there are "pros" who exclusively use softsynths?

There are plenty of people you've heard of who use softsynths. I don't think there are a whole lot who use them exclusively, however.

I don't even see why this matters. If you base your decisions of what to use on who uses it (i.e. if someone writes good music with X, you'll use X), you will end up having to use just about everything. There is good music out there written only with FL, only with a Virus, only with Buzz. And there is good music out there written using an enormous array of hard- and softsynths. And there is good music out there with some or all performed by live musicians. It all depends on the sound you want (and, of course, what resources you have).

artists who use software syntha: Airbase ( Reason ), Parker ( fruity loops ), FLUTLICHT, DJ SHOKK, DAVE JOY, ...

Trancevision

fair point

could do without the patronsing though pal..I think Ive made a fair point, Ive not read an article by any producers use a soft synth intead of a hard synth..strange cos some people on here say soft-synths are shite compared to hard..but soft-samps are good, all variations inbetween,umm? perhaps because people have their own preferences, but say push or halucinogen came on here, I must admit I would tend to take their opinion over anyone on here, as they probably have more experiance..? in any case I prefer soft-controlled hardware, what Id really like is a maxed out emu or akai (prob emu) an automated desk and shit loads of outboard..pref midi controlled fx..but I cant afford all of that so Im being open minded to the soft-aproach, which for me personally will still require a good card, as I have no intention of mixing with a mouse..!

oops

should read soft-sampler instead of a hard sampler, and actually I have, but its been people like jena michelle jarre (who I like but is not who Id like to be one of my peers..)

Another thing to consider is that to get to "pro" status, one almost certainly has been producing for many, many years. Let's say, on average, 7 or 8 (I think that's probably a good estimate). 7 or 8 years ago, software couldn't compete very well with hardware, except, perhaps, in the sequencer arena. So most of these "pros" started out with hardware. Once you start with something, that is what is going to be familiar. Why go to the trouble of switching and relearning something unless the advantages are extraordinary? (And if they were extraordinary, you wouldn't be trying to figure out which was better -- you'd know... )

And I apologize if I sounded patronizing in my last post. Didn't mean to, just trying to give you a more realistic picture of how much what the "pros" use actually means. (I.e. not as much as you seemed to think it did.)

no worries

apolgy accepted + I take your point..

dude if you got the cash hardware makes your life 10 times easier...just go to the store and play with a a station or virus or something....a smile will grow on your face

umm

were discussing samplers only really..eg maxed out emu with outboartd and a desk vs loex sampler..with a mouse

oh....as far as samplers...those are a thing of the past....software samplers rule

You need a good combination of software and hardware in my opinion to get the best sound with the least amount of money.

I find this thread alittle confusing though, are we talking about hardware vs softwear softsynths, samplers, or sequencers.. ?

In terms of softsynths, they are alright, but tend to lack the expressive sounds of hardware. But if you know what you're doing you can get some pretty decent sounds out of softwear nontheless.
I just got a track signed that I made exclusively in Reason, without any of my hardwear synths.

Samplers.. I have never used a hardwear sampler, but I would imagine they are no different than a hardwear synth.. just with an interchangeable sound bank. I find softsamplers fine, and so I stick with them.

Sequencers. to tell you the truth I don't know how someone could compose a track on a hardwear sequencer. I find it so much easier seeing it on a nice timeline on my monitor, where everything is so accessible and easy to manipulate.

well, cosmicman said in a trance.nu article that he uses fruity and reason a fair bit...so yeah, "pro's" do use software, airbase from these forums uses reason.....

I think sampling, sequencing, editing and all the shit should be done using the computer... easyer and cheeper

But when it Comes 2 sounds hardware ruls.

go both sw and hw.....it's the optimal

[old wise man mode]
There is no wrong way and no right way to make music. Software better? Hardware better? Who the hell cares, it's what you do with it that matters. Sooner or later people are gonna find out that its the man (woman?) behind the knobs that make a "pro" track a "pro" track. It's possible to make decent tracks using hardware. It's possible to make decent tracks using software. Choose whatever you want.
Give a real good sculptor a screwdriver and a hammer and he can build you a cool statue. Give a wanna be sculptor the most expensive sculpting kit and he can't do SHIT. How's that for wise
Some of the best music has been made with the most limiting gear (hey a TB303 was rubbish; it didn't sound like a bassguitar, and it was hard to program )

[/old wise man mode]

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Originally posted by DJSound dude if you got the cash hardware makes your life 10 times easier...just go to the store and play with a a station or virus or something....a smile will grow on your face

not with samplers

brash makes a good point about software - it has really evolved so much in the last few years. IMHO it is now possible to produce a "pro" track (as you put it) without using hardware.

In answer to the original question, Airwave made one of his album tracks entirely using software. It says so on the album cover

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