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Posted by kolkiewolkie on Jan-10-2003 21:52:

Arrow is spain expensive to live

hello you fellow spanish talking tranceaddicts

I'm sorry to disturbe you guys forum, poisoning it with english, but I have a question to the spanish people:

is it expensive to live in spain? I have this offer to finish my study at the university of barcelona, but the biggest issue is I probably won't get any money while I'm staying there .

I'll get some money from the government in holland and get some studyfinancing (totally like 400 euros a month). is this enough to buy yourself food and go out every weekend? is there any form of public transportation in the big cities and if so, how expensive is it?

I'll probably need a place to stay as well, but that is probably going to be at the university and paying that money from my own bankaccount is no problem .

then: is it expensive to buy and run a car in spain? how much does that stuff cost you a month? I'm talking basic transportation then ofcourse

last: are there any good websites I can visit with info in ENGLISH about spain, its habbits and the costs to live there?

MANY MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!

yours, Gerdinand Kolkman a.k.a. kolkiewolkie

(boy will I miss all these parties in holland , tell me the hot clubs in spain as well!! )


Posted by Pio on Jan-11-2003 15:16:

It's def. cheaper than Holland. That's for sure


Posted by Lira on Jan-14-2003 16:03:

Come on, were are the TA's from Barcelona?!
Costa del Sol, help him out!


Posted by kolkiewolkie on Jan-15-2003 14:13:

chances that I am actually coming are rising by the minute at the moment.. just read the project this morning and looking gooooooood

but PLEASE tell me where the clubs are... the costs.. o well, I'll survive that, but 4.5 months without a decent party will KILL me


Posted by Costa del Sol on Jan-15-2003 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by kolkiewolkie
chances that I am actually coming are rising by the minute at the moment.. just read the project this morning and looking gooooooood

but PLEASE tell me where the clubs are... the costs.. o well, I'll survive that, but 4.5 months without a decent party will KILL me

oh well.. I think there are more clubs in Madrid City than in Barcelona City! There are few clubs in BCN which plays dance music: Ilusion, Pont Aeri, Rockola, Pacha, Area (in Sabadell, a little town near BCN), and more...
Welcome to Barcelona mate and.. I hope u like it!!
Cheers


Posted by The Posh Bird on Jan-15-2003 19:52:

Im an English student currently living in Spain in Oviedo. And its a lot cheaper than living in England. Where I am is very cheap indeed 150 euros for a months rent in my flat where I live with two other english girls and thats is half what I pay in England!

Obviously living in Barcelona will be more expensive because it is Barcelona, but it would be very much worth it!

I live on about 100 euros a week not including rent, I could easily spend less though, and this is on EVERYTHING! A proper meal in a restaurant menu del dia only sets me back 6 euros. I dont know about running a car cos I dont have one!

If you need anymore info feel free to ask on here or PM me!


Posted by kolkiewolkie on Jan-15-2003 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Costa del Sol
oh well.. I think there are more clubs in Madrid City than in Barcelona City! There are few clubs in BCN which plays dance music: Ilusion, Pont Aeri, Rockola, Pacha, Area (in Sabadell, a little town near BCN), and more...
Welcome to Barcelona mate and.. I hope u like it!!
Cheers


excellent work here guys, maybe you could post some websites of these clubs, so I at least know who spins where, or that I can at least read afterwards who that dj was .

and posh, thanks for the info man!

'costa del sol' could you also tell me what I should and should NOT do , how is the public transportation, is a car very necessary or can you life a life with a bicycle or something . A friend of mine told me that if you only want to use the metro, you become VERY unhappy after a month or so

about the car-thingy, know any good sites where to look for second hand cars? because the dutch government isn't particulary fond of people being 5 months out of the country with a dutch car

thanks in advance


Posted by The Posh Bird on Jan-16-2003 15:09:

good luck if you do go ahead with it. I have friends in Barcelona this year and they are loving it. I think a year abroad anywhere in Spain is amazing and definately worth doing!

Do you speak Spanish cos it is excellent practice for that!


Posted by evil_bastard on Jan-17-2003 18:09:

Barcelona is very expensive for beer and there aren't many pubs. Restaurants are also expensive.

But apart from that, it is a beautiful and massive city.

@Posh Bird, do many people in Barcelona speak Spanish well? I didn't have the chance to find out as I know neither and had to speak to everyone in English.

For clubs, Nitsa (www.nitsa.com) is a well known techno club in Barcelona. It used to have Dave Clarke as resident apparently.


Posted by Cyberio on Jan-17-2003 18:38:

Spain is very very more cheap than another country of Europe,
i think!!!!!!!
but with our goverment (PP) live in Spain is now more expensive,
but i think spain is very very cheap for a English or a Holland
or a German People.
but not for a Spanish gRRRRRRR


Posted by evil_bastard on Jan-18-2003 17:36:

It depends, common shops are cheaper for every-day items than England, but eating/drinking out is very expensive over there compared to England (except places like London). I think this is because the Spanish love to be out and about (maybe something to do with their weather), and pub/club/restaurant owners know this. But if you are prepared to cook your own meals and buy things from supermarkets you could probably get by in Barcelona.

I heard a lot about Barcelona's nightlife before I visitted, but to be honest a night out in Newcastle is considerably cheaper and there is much more choice. In Barcelona you have to actually look for the nightlife, in Newcastle you just follow the crowds if you're new to the city. It is quite expensive to go drinking every day in Barcelona, but ordinary items in corner shops are very cheap compared to England because of less tax on their goods. I don't know how things stand in Holland though, sorry.


Posted by kolkiewolkie on Jan-18-2003 22:35:

well, we are planning to cook a meal at least 5 or 6 days a week, since it isn't a vacation, but a final project, and therefore we ain't gonna be drunk every night aswell ()

and food.. just have to find out how much damage it is gonna be .

and the nightlife isn't that spectacular hmmmmm, bummer :

thanks for ur help anyways


Posted by evil_bastard on Jan-19-2003 00:52:

It depends what you mean by nightlife. The streets are full of people, but they're all sober, even at 3am on a Saturday night. Weird. But as for the clubs I don't know as I was only there a week. I think Barcelona probably has a good club scene, it's a very big city, and as I say there were plenty of tourists in December, so you can imagine what it's going to be like in the summer ... beautiful meditteranean city, nice women, hot weather, it'll be absolutely rammed! And lots of tourists usually means lots of events, but also higher prices. Tourists can be a good or a bad thing depending how you look at it - they sure are annoying, but at the same time clubs put on events for them and put better stuff on if they know they will fill the place.

We arrived on a Saturday evening and people were doing their shopping at 10pm. And by people I mean bloody millions! I've never seen so many people out shopping, even for December (xmas) it was incredible. Back home in Newcastle people had been starting drinking about 6pm, some at 7pm, some at 8, and the city is definitely full of people by 9 getting tanked up. A lot of people say Barcelona has a great club scene, and it looks like it probably has, but all the stuff I read or was told about it being some sort of super carnival city was frankly nonsense. There is lots of street entertainment on La Rambla and a few other areas throughout the day but unless you're 5 years old it's pretty boring! Just street theatre mainly. The people were more interested in going for a midnight bite to eat than get shitfaced, and that's on a Saturday night. Pubs don't really exist in Barcelona except the Irish pubs, and they are just full of British, Irish, Aussie, Canadian and American tourists too lazy to learn the local language or even attempt to say anything in Catalan There are a lot of bar-eaterie type places, because the Spanish seem to love to eat and also eat very late (often lunch is eaten in the afternoon and dinner at about midnight). But I don't think getting absolutely shitfaced is really a culture in Spain like it is in the rest of Europe.

The Irish pubs and Spanish bar-eateries tend to close at 2 or 3am, clubs (according to the listings) stay open until anything from about 6-10am generally, obviously there will be places close earlier and others later, but I didn't get a chance to sample them

I don't mean to sound too negative, I'd like to go again some day and see more of the city, and the only thing which I found really expensive was 'going out' (ie pubs, clubs, restaurants etc). If you can budget wisely I don't see why it should be more expensive than any other big city


Posted by kolkiewolkie on Feb-28-2003 20:22:



so I actually arrived!

9 days ago I did actually just didn�t have the possibility to check TA before again .

does anybody now any parties coming up in BCN and its area? I�ve read already about tiesto coming to salou so that should be . But any other great djs coming (Yes I still remember dave clarke is a resident)?? because I REAAAAAAAAAAALLY need to know!

for the rest, I like barcelona ALOT!! nice people, sucky weather though (except for today ). going to buy a bicycle tomorrow, I HATE the metro (yes, I�m mad!).

but: LET ME KNOW ABOUT THE PARTIES, I cant live without them! maybe we can meet up . What clubs are recommendable or SHOULD be visited once? not Republica, I�ve been there already, which was nice .

many thanks in advance!

o yeah, my spanish is quite sucky, so don�t mind that (you wouldnt understand me if I started talking to you).



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