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need some help choosing a new mixer.. any ideas?
looking for some ideas for a new mixer.. i was originally looking for one w/ effects and preferrably 19" and I had decided on the DJM3000 but its just way outta my financial means (i figure i should start paying off my debts instead of adding to it).. sooo, now i've got to choose something else. my main requirement is that it must be 4-ch and @ least 3-band eq (my dreams of owning an A&H Xone 62 have faded) and thats pretty much it. some mixers i've been looking at were the Denon digital mixers, they seem to be reasonably priced but i don't know much about them.. and how are these Tascam and Behringer mixers? well any input would help. also, i do not like Vestax mixers.. my setup is just 2 mk2's and a stanton s700 dual CD deck. I'd like if the mixer has digital (preferrably RCA input & optical output) cuz my cd deck has digital outs and i record onto my MD recorder which has an Optical Input but i haven't had the chance to test these out yet. i guess it don't matter until i get my Audigy 2 w/ optical ins to really take advantage of 100% digitalness! well thanks for your help.
u can look @ my setup
http://djreel.onestop.net/
if i can get a 19" mixer, i plan to dump the coffin and get a skb shuttle rack to put my amp (hidden under the cd deck in the pics) and the cd deck on the bottom racks and the mixer and cd controller on the top.. i guess if i get a regular mixer than i don't need to worry about the rack..
wow your speakers are really close to your decks...doesnt that cause problems? sorry i dont really know much about 19" mixers...just got myself an xone 62 and its great tho... great filters which is waht i preferred over effects...
The Mixer of Choice handed down by GOD the Disk Jockey Himself??
Allen & Heath Xone 62 Period. I've tried them all and agree with him.
DO NOT BUY A MIXER WITH STOMP BOX QUALITY EFFECTS IN IT....
Why would you pay for Cheezeball Garbage effects, when you can be paying for most important SOUND QUALITY. Buy the Effects separate Dude and like myself build a Rack. I got two..... Power Section and Pre Section
Just ask DJ Phu 'bout the Horrible Tascam full of those effect thingys he brought over.The Tascam was like $1800 Can and my Heath w/o Cheeze whiz was $1600 Can.
Once wired up and going the Tascam lasted about 5 mins. I wanted to pull the plug after 10 sec. but I am a fair man and let the thing get an honest opinion. I would have had more respect for the Tascam if I pulled it earlier. THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF QUALITY. A&H "Made in UK", Tascam "Made in Taiwan". I am not 100% but heard Pioneers are made in China.
In a Nutshell 3 mixers I narrowed down too. Vestax PMC-55(My main choice for 3 years) The Heath and Pioneer. Order they finished
#1 mixer Allen & Heath - XonE 62
#2 mixer VESTAX - PMC55 Made in Japan (PMC's 270a, 275a, 170a, 175a are made in china and are NOISY not the same as Real Vestax's)
#3 anything made in US or UK that has EQ's and XLR's
depends on how much money you have, i would say a A&H 464, but thats VERY VERY VERY expensive. you should probably say how much money you have then people will be able to help you easier
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| Originally posted by spike_boy69 depends on how much money you have, i would say a A&H 464, but thats VERY VERY VERY expensive. you should probably say how much money you have then people will be able to help you easier |
mixer with SPIDF out
I have the same CD decks you have but in black.
They do have a digital out but it's not optical it's SPDIF out. Which is the same as optical but it's a totally different cable. SPDIF out you can use any regular RCA cable and it should work.
The Denon DX400 has a SPDIF out and is a good choice but remeber that is only has 2 phono inputs so you couldn't ever hook up another Tech. You could get a phono preamp but that defies the purpose. The only reason to get a DX400 or DX500 is for the digital capability. The one thing I didn't like about the Denon's is their lack of bottom end. Digital is not always better. A nice analog board like the old Urei's or Bozaks thump like you won't believe.
There is also the Stanton VRM-10 which has a SPDIF out but they are mad expensive at $2000 US.
Behringer makes a decent box for about $170 DX1000 but no digital out. But you get five channels and 2 mic input channels with talkover and sensitivity.
Vestax makes a good 2 channel board PMC-250 with beautiful EQs but I see you don't like Vestax.
Thanks for all your help.. I was hesitant to come back to this board for advice (i had stopped checking in because I felt this forum had grown a little towards the immature side) but those of you who posted your .02 did it in a very good, solid, non-critical manner and I appreciate it.. this is what this forum was meant to be.. I was expecting to just get flamed w/ comments about my different color tables (hey, they're different, what can i say?) or just some other meaningless jabber..
so getting back to my situation.. as you can see, my mixer isn't too fancy, but, it works so I gotta be greatful for that considering it is an American DJ product and old too. the xfader bleeds like mad and i am not willing to put any money into repairing it because that would be money towards a new mixer. the mixer i've had most experience besides mine is the pioneer djm600, a guy in my old dj crew had it and that was the mixer we used all the time, i like it but its expensive, and i'd rather get the Xone for a couple hundred more bux. but all this is outta the question because my setup is in dire need of replacements.. well not really, but it is time to get new headphones because my v6's finally snapped, i've got about .00005mm left on my least worn stylus, so really the new mixer is more like a luxury than necessity. plus the fact that i've got rent, tuition, bills and credit card debt draining my wallet, it's very hard for me to justify dropping a large sum on a mixer when that is a large chunk of debt I could clear.. so basically i'm gonna look at getting at least two styls, and my headphones which should cost me about $175 total (im getting the night club ortos($25x2) and pioneer sedj headphones ($100). at that point i will assess the mixer situation, but i want to estimate that I don't want to spend more than 400, I know i wissh i could get teh Xone and its sound quality, but thats a luxury i can't afford and besides, my mixes sound just fine coming from the american dj..
also, yah forget the effects, i can get an fxbox later if i see it necessary (again, another luxury). I should look at the vestax, I just really don't like the look and feel of vestax mixers, i've used about 5 different ones (from the 2-ch scratch/battle mixers, to some 3-ch mixer w/ a lotta knobs and looked fancy, I just didn't like how it felt and i guess thats personal. maybe i'm accustomed to the djm w/ its big fat knobs
EQs on Vestax PMC-250
I hear you about the EQs on most Vestax but the PMC-250 is unlike any other vestax. The EQ's are HUGE!!! 
I think you should try it out. The only thing is like I said that it is only a 2 channel mixer. Anyway it's only $260 0r something.
Peace
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| Originally posted by hapamoto Thanks for all your help.. I was hesitant to come back to this board for advice (i had stopped checking in because I felt this forum had grown a little towards the immature side) but those of you who posted your .02 did it in a very good, solid, non-critical manner and I appreciate it.. this is what this forum was meant to be.. I was expecting to just get flamed w/ comments about my different color tables (hey, they're different, what can i say?) or just some other meaningless jabber.. so getting back to my situation.. as you can see, my mixer isn't too fancy, but, it works so I gotta be greatful for that considering it is an American DJ product and old too. the xfader bleeds like mad and i am not willing to put any money into repairing it because that would be money towards a new mixer. the mixer i've had most experience besides mine is the pioneer djm600, a guy in my old dj crew had it and that was the mixer we used all the time, i like it but its expensive, and i'd rather get the Xone for a couple hundred more bux. but all this is outta the question because my setup is in dire need of replacements.. well not really, but it is time to get new headphones because my v6's finally snapped, i've got about .00005mm left on my least worn stylus, so really the new mixer is more like a luxury than necessity. plus the fact that i've got rent, tuition, bills and credit card debt draining my wallet, it's very hard for me to justify dropping a large sum on a mixer when that is a large chunk of debt I could clear.. so basically i'm gonna look at getting at least two styls, and my headphones which should cost me about $175 total (im getting the night club ortos($25x2) and pioneer sedj headphones ($100). at that point i will assess the mixer situation, but i want to estimate that I don't want to spend more than 400, I know i wissh i could get teh Xone and its sound quality, but thats a luxury i can't afford and besides, also, yah forget the effects, i can get an fxbox later if i see it necessary (again, another luxury). I should look at the vestax, I just really don't like the look and feel of vestax mixers, i've used about 5 different ones (from the 2-ch scratch/battle mixers, to some 3-ch mixer w/ a lotta knobs and looked fancy, I just didn't like how it felt and i guess thats personal. maybe i'm accustomed to the djm w/ its big fat knobs |
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| Originally posted by The Greener Sorry to hear that man, but you said somthing that I have total respect for was "my mixes sound just fine coming from the american dj" I am older than like 90% of the people on this site. I started music in the SLUMS. Since like 8 y/old I played guitar,@13 then bands in h/school,@19 in a Promissing Death Metal Band playing bars. @24 Found 2 members starting there Junk addiction life, packed my gear, came home, end of that music Career. Worked Hard Labor, said f that, went to school, got good job, worked ass off for carrer. Stumbled upon an Early Tiesto Bootleg and that was it.BTW I am the same age as him. Your Quote "my mixes sound just fine coming from the american dj.." tells me were I used to be. The Equipment NEVER changed my passion for music. I always started with Shitz equipment before I got good then over time scrimped( legally of course) for Top Line stuff(not to mention watching all my friends for years take there 10 times better equipment than mine to FUCKING LESSONS!!!!. There Music Lessons lost everytime to my Passion for music. Alot of people think the good equipment plays itself!!! Dude sounds like you got the passion You are welcome to Spin on my Wheels anytime Dude. You list from S.California? Which city? I lived there too B4 in Arcadia I only post what I am 100% positive & sure. I have seen alot of disgusting advice from people here and seen BAD mistakes because of it. |
Forget all that...
RANE MP 2016
Best mixer around. Smooth mixing, power beyond belief. Most clubs have this mixer among others to choose from. If you get this one, the only way it is 100% effective is with the optional xpander with the EQ kills and active crossfader. Most fun mixer I have ever worked on.
I highly recommend the Vestax PMC-175
The crossfader lasts forever,
it has features-a-plenty,
and it sounds GREAT over a big system
heres an example:
I was at a 5-zoner last weekend and the trance zone was running off a vestax 175,
playing out to a thousand people and it sounded great!
also, the mixer should only set you back around about �269.00!
http://www.musiccentre.co.uk/dj/ves...stax_pcv175.htm
the 175 is definitely a high quality mixer at a low price!
i'm glad you like.. i'm one of the few people who don't like it, i mentioned above that the knobs are too skinny, and i'm just not accustomed to the functionality of the thing. i'm not saying its a bad mixer, it is a great mixer, just not for me. also, i need a 4th channel. does vestax make a 4ch mixer that is equivalent to this in price and value?
That's really cool to hear.
I stumbled upon turntablism in 9th grade, and have wanted to get into it ever since...about the same time, I started listening to trance, techno and house as well. Put the two together...hehehe.
Last year(freshman year of college) I had some "spare" moeny from scholarships...mind you that I could save this scholarship for rent and book money, or personal spending money. Found a used 1200 on ebay for 350, blew my money on that, and second semester got the rest of my scholarship and bought another used 1200 for 400 on ebay as well.
Last year, my friend who spins visited and lended me his American DJ mixer...I still don't have enough money to get my own mixer, because I've been spending it on records, lol! I've grown to love my friend's ADJ mixer and am most comfortable with it...my other friends have high end boxes like the DJM 5 and 600s, but I find myself mixing the best with my trusty old American DJ.
It's how you use your equipment....not how much you have of it.
Best of luck in the future.
dJohn, i like your attitude, you will get fair in whatever venture your life leads you on as long as you can make due w/ the best that you've got. ya kno i started spinning not too long ago, maybe almost 2.5-3 years (but only consistantly for about 2yrs), and anyways i started out w/ belt drives and i couldn't believe how hard spinning was and kinda got frustrated w/ it and thats y i stopped. then i tried to pick it back up again, starting getting passed my temper (i get mad when i can't do something no matter how hard i try) and eventually got the knack of it all. then went out and got my USED tables (yah i wish i could afford brand new ones) and the dj i bought them from was nice enough to give me the ADJ mixer for free cuz i said i only had this crappy 2ch mixer that consisted of a 2 gain knobs and an xfader. yah once i got the 1200s i thought mixing was cakewalk, direct drive was soo easy, i couldn't believe i wasted my time w/ belts. but u kno wat, u can't help your situation and as long as u do wat you can w/ wat u've got, then ur doing it right and ur doing it true. now i'm not gonna talk smack about these kids here who have parents to buy them brand new 1200s and a vestax mixer for their 15th birthday cuz sheit, i would love to have that for my bday but im not that lucky; however, i think sometimes its hard for them to understand that expensive equipment doesn't = talent. as a matter of fact, a dj thats also a college buddy of mine had belt drives all throughout school, and i always asked him y he never got techs and he just said "i can't afford 'em and besides, the clubs always got ur techs for u" and that is true. he can mix just as well on the shittiest pair of belt driven decks as most can w/ there industry standard 1200s, and then when he gets behind the techs, he flies.. and all the same he is not ashamed to say that he uses belt drive decks at home. i know this probably isn't the right thread for me to go on about this, but it just doesn't make sense to me sometimes when i see these posts by ppl that are just starting out and they inquiring about getting pioneer cdj1000 which cost about the price of 2 techs each, and there are tons of cd decks that will serve the majority of you just fine for probably 75% less.. unless of course you guys are fortunate enough to be given these types of things w/o paying for it yourself, i mean, i'm not a race car driver but if someone offered me a porche i'll take it.. and for those of you who are gonna say "i worked all summer long flipping burgers to by my cdj1000s so fuck you" all i have to say is that were they necessary and you could have spent 75% of that money on CDs. blah im going off on a tangeant, anyone who is reading this, bottom line, if ur gonna spin on TT's, get techs, fuck the belt drive cuz u don't have to be a hero, but as far as mixers go, beginners don't need a djm600 or a Xone62, spend the bux on building a bombass record collection cuz that will take u farther than an expensive mixer ever will.
Don't overlook the Behringer DX1000 either. I got mine a month ago and it was one of the best investments I have ever made. Has 3 Band and XLR's and plenty of channels for your cd decks and TT's with some leftover. I got mine for $159 from Musicians Friend.
Dont be afraid to look into it as an alternative.
It might be a bit pricey for you but The Pioneer DJM 600 is the industry standard mixer imo I have one at home and its the businesss.
Turbotrance
what the heck.. i wrote a long ass reply last night about the djm600 and now its not here, oh well.. ok so basically i've been doing some thinking and i've narrowed down my selection to a few choices: pioneer djm3000 ($750), Denon dn-x400 ($399), stanton rm-80 ($299), stanton rm-50 ($269) i don't really see any difference between the rm80 and rm50 so if my choice is left between those 2, i'd prolly go w/ the rm50, ... so if anyone has any knowledge or experience on any of these mixers.. please let me kno
difference EQ
RM-50 has no EQs per channel
RM-80 has EQs per channel
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