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Posted by XxremedyxX on Jan-13-2003 14:06:

Difference between Trance and Techno...

I hate it when i play some trance in front of someone who doesn't listen to it regularly and they call it techno. Like the other nite for example: we were riding around and there was 5 of us in the car but only me and one of my friends listen to trance. We put in a cd and the people who didn't listen to it were saying wow techno is sweet. I was like dammit its trance theres a difference between techno and trance. I told them some differences but they were still like its still called techno to me.

Can everyone give their opinions on differences between techno and trance that would be more convincing that they aren't the same.....

Thanks


Posted by StalkerElmo on Jan-13-2003 14:38:

They define Trance as Techno because the word "Trance" is not a common word to define that type of music.

I hear ya bud, all the people in my school say.. "Listen to your sick techno beats"..

Heh.. but I say w/e.. they're either too stupid to understand, or they just don't give a damn.. who cares.. trance is trance.. if other people call it techno, tell em to shove it.. it's like classifying.. Heavy Metal.. as Rock Music but it reality it's a different genre..

get what im sayin?


Posted by XxremedyxX on Jan-13-2003 15:28:

yep i definitley get it.... it gets annoying though haha


Posted by tu_face on Jan-13-2003 15:30:

its people that dont know the difference that call trance techno...

trance came from techno (cross bred with house music) but the two differ veeeery much.

techno tends to have less of the breakdowns, more of the weird ends to sets of bars... techno has the more metallic harder sound whereas trance has sweeping synths... most techno doesnt have much of a melody, but the main riff to the song will be a combination of noises.

although it may not seem it to the untrained ear.. trance beats are much more repetetive, in the sense that its the same loop over and over a lot of the time. techno will have the same loop, then every say 4 bars it will end slightly differently.

techno works less with the 32's and 16's and concentrates on the 8's and 4's... if u get what i mean. each phrase is not always 32 beats... u may have your main hook going, then at the end of that lot u can have a short phrase of say 4 beats that resolves. a prime example of this is 'Charm' by Mauro Picotto.

hope this helps


Posted by UWM on Jan-13-2003 15:40:

1. Tiesto can spin trance.

2. Tiesto can't spin techno.


Posted by tu_face on Jan-13-2003 15:52:

lol.. he cant remix it well either...


Posted by Sex-Tazi on Jan-13-2003 16:16:

Techno is every Electronic Music (made by comp).
Trance is every Techno with kicks.

at least that's how it goes for me.


Posted by verminator on Jan-13-2003 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Sex-Tazi
Techno is every Electronic Music (made by comp).
Trance is every Techno with kicks.

at least that's how it goes for me.


wtf???


Posted by shoXx on Jan-13-2003 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Sex-Tazi
Techno is every Electronic Music (made by comp).
Trance is every Techno with kicks.

at least that's how it goes for me.


ok...


Posted by Jolle on Jan-13-2003 17:56:

Trance/Techno

Ohh, I think every "Trancer" do have the same problem but a simple differens is that techno dosent have any melody or very short... trance always have one... Isn�t that right?


Posted by =Sound Lab= on Jan-13-2003 18:02:

Let people called it what they like


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-13-2003 18:09:

scooter is sum wikid techno hey!!11


Posted by Mills on Jan-13-2003 18:18:

No one I know calls trance techno

Is it just an american thing ?


Posted by XxremedyxX on Jan-13-2003 18:22:

Yes its basically an american thing or just someone who doesn't listen to trance and the general term for electronic music is techno to them.


Posted by Noisician on Jan-13-2003 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by verminator
wtf???


i second that motion


Posted by MindShifter on Jan-13-2003 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Mills
Is it just an american thing ?


Yeah, pretty much! I have given up on tryin to explain the difference to people, if they actually take the time to ask me questions about it, then I will explain the difference, but if they dont I don't even bother anymore. Just too much of a pain in the ass


Posted by mndeg on Jan-13-2003 23:28:

techno has no melody and there are no techno anthems, lol techno anthems

also its more hardcore of a genre and less mainstream than trance
the differences are huge, its more like blink 182 compared to korn (random pick)

blink 182 being pop, and korn being hard rock although some people say it's nu-metal


Posted by uberclkgtr on Jan-13-2003 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Mills
No one I know calls trance techno

Is it just an american thing ?


Yes. To them, there is no difference between trance and techno, as techno is a catch-all term that encompasses trance, house, breaks, and real techno - any sort of electronic dance music really.

So don't rag on your friends for calling your music techno. Instead, play them some real techno and trance together, in one sitting. They'll immediatly hear the differences between the two. It's really just sub-categorization.

Hell, when I first starting listening to The Crystal Method and The Prodigy (some of my first electronic music), I called it techno. Only later did I realize that it was breaks.


Posted by apostrophe on Jan-14-2003 03:05:

I have to confess, that about two years ago, I didn't realize the difference between the two! :*[

I was one of those ignorant people, unaware of what to call what. And well, oh well. Some people have different interests, and really dont take the time to find out how to differenciate between a seemingly small difference of trance and techno (in their eyes..)

Just my thought.....


Posted by whiskers on Jan-14-2003 03:17:

my understanding of "techno" music always was something repetitive, like the old-school psy/goa/deep pop whatever i started out listening to (i can't even classify it, not even now!)

these days, being an experienced tranceaddict, i always laugh at my friends when they mention techno.

one of my friends always used to call trance techno, and i was constantly explaining to him how there are breaks, dnb, techno, etc... he still said "who cares, it's all techno to me".
so i downloaded about 15 tiesto & armin albums to his comp and left him listening to all of them. he was a bit crazy and jumpy afterwards, but he never called trance techno after such treatment.

now, today another buddy of mine, hardcore eminem & rap fan, asked me if i know some good techno songs. so i gave him the names of the most hardcore techno beats . too bad, he didn't find them on kazaa, so instead i pointed him to marco v, the first thing that popped in my head.

LOL! sorry for such long & useless post.


Posted by twizta on Jan-14-2003 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by apostrophe
I have to confess, that about two years ago, I didn't realize the difference between the two! :*[

I was one of those ignorant people, unaware of what to call what. And well, oh well. Some people have different interests, and really dont take the time to find out how to differenciate between a seemingly small difference of trance and techno (in their eyes..)

Just my thought.....




haha i agree -_^


Posted by futurevision on Jan-14-2003 03:40:

In Australia,

alot of trance CDs are called dance

even the albums in record stores are titled and labeled as dance
its just for marketing purposes?

if you listen to it or even just look at the tracklisting on the backcover, its surely isn't dance.

they love to put it in a store titling it as dance. why?
big label on the front of it best dance tunes or wateva

crazy
but techno is techno and hardcore is hardcore
just trance gets mixed up alot

gets annoying to see un-educated people labeling things incorrectly, i am pretty sure when they released the album they know its trance. but still titling it incorrectly just to sell it.

in that case, it doesnt help educate anyone, and still ppl would never know the differences until they BECOME A TRANCEFREAK!


Posted by Phaetyl on Jan-14-2003 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by MindShifter
Yeah, pretty much! I have given up on tryin to explain the difference to people, if they actually take the time to ask me questions about it, then I will explain the difference, but if they dont I don't even bother anymore. Just too much of a pain in the ass


quitter


Posted by Cobalt on Jan-14-2003 04:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Mills
No one I know calls trance techno

Is it just an american thing ?


Yes, and it is unbelievably frustrating! Even the music stores label the electronic music section "Techno," because they know the roving American teens don't know the difference between any of the genres. It's a painstaking process to correct the error.

However it is useful as a sort of indicator. If someone calls it trance instead of techno I know they have some basic knowledge of electronic music, usually the the extent of knowing that Tiesto is a DJ, but that's about it.

The term progressive is even an even better indicator. If an American mentions progressive house or progressive trance, I instantly recognize that they are familiar with the scene.

But to all you Europeans, remember that the concept of mainstream trance is as foreign to me as people calling it "techno" is to you.

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Posted by apostrophe on Jan-14-2003 05:00:

quote:
Originally posted by twizta
haha i agree -_^


hehehehh %_%


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