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Best software for production
Can anyone tell me what are the best pieces of software out there for making your own tunes? and where i could get them from? i.e. down load from the net etc...
many thanks
Hey!
Reason 2 is supposedly a real good bit of software.
That's why I want it...
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Yes i have heard of that... cheers matey!!!!
Hey ho, only the 2452387th thread about this... 
ok, i guess there will be no more reason vs. fruity vs. logic fight here in the close period...
if you ask me, i advise you getting fruity. i always wanted reason, but it was too complicated for me so sometimes i played with it a little, and than forgot about it...and again...
until i sat down with fruity, read a little help, watched the tracks that come with it., and made my first tune!!
now i can get my way around reason , but i see no real reason to do so, cause i heared many pro-like tracks made in fruity + many poele say its gr8, also when you'll feel the need i guess you will also start using VSTi' Plug-ins and instrments... which go with almost all the production programs (fruity, logic, cubase, orion...), to use them with reason is kinda a mess ... but is possible too.
I very like the synths in reason though.... dont know... again i recomend you starting with fruity. and i guess you dont have MIDI keyboard, so in fruity you can smply use you computer keyboard, you can also do it in other programs, but that's a mess again... so ask me if you need to, or search for a thread i wrote some time ago about this issue 
ok thanks for the info thats help no end, i'll have a proper look at the other threads soon also. At least i have some idea of what kinda software to start with.
cheers
ok let me brake it down for u
fruityloops and reason are "toys"
if u want to use proffesional tools
use emagic logic which is only for MAC now they have stoped the updates for pc version
use Cubase SX which is a powerful midi and audio prog
also stienberg nuendo
Reason 2 can be rewired in to cubase and used as a vst plug in
I agree with flotser,fruityloops is your best bet if your just starting out,it's easy to use & easy on the pocket..about �50,where as reason is around the �250 mark.
IMO they are as good as eachover.When you.ve learned the basics you may want to look at cubase sx
Good luck
O7
Brilliant thanks guys ill may just go with fruit loops then work my way up.
BUM BUM--- i'll make a note on what you said though as in the future it'll help. at the moment i'm just getting to grips with it (beginner, all gotta start some where right?)....just need to get a a new comp....
cheers lads
Download Buzz at http://www.buzzmachines.com -- it is free, and very powerful. You might have to search the news for a link to it. Follow the quick start guide and play around with it for a day or two. Make sure you get the 700 templates pack, if you like it and want to get more sounds out of it.
Download the demo of Renoise at http://www.renoise.com -- the full version is $49, I believe, if you like it. Again, follow the quick start guide and play around for a day or two.
Download the demo for Fruity Loops (don't know the URL), and play around with it (if you can find some quick start guide, follow that -- didn't see one, though).
After using those three for long enough that you have a basic idea of how to get sound out of them (i.e. a day or two each should do, depending on how much time you have), decide which way of sequencing (i.e. laying out the sounds) you like better.
If you like the Buzz sequencing, well, you are stuck with Buzz (not a bad thing -- I use Buzz and love it -- it has a few bugs, but so far I haven't found anything I like better, despite the bugs).
If you like the Renoise sequencing, you might want to check out Skale, Psycle (this has a Buzz-like way of arranging machines), or other sequencers called "trackers".
If you like the Fruity Loops sequencing, check out Reason, Cubase, Logic, Orion, and there may be more like this. This is commonly termed "pro" style sequencing (which is ridiculous -- plenty of pros use trackers, and some -- most notably, James Holden, use Buzz).
Obviously, if you aren't averse to piracy, I'm sure you can find the full version of whatever you want to use/try someone out there on the internet.
Keep in mind a few things:
- There is no reason at all to use a progam simply because of the sounds you get out of it. If you like the sounds, fine, use it to make the sounds, and use some other sequencer to put them together. Don't force yourself to use some sequencer just because it happens to go along with nice native softsynths.
- Most of the discussion on this board are going to be concerning which pro-style sequencer to use. Don't be fooled by this into thinking this means these are the best sequencers. They are the most popular, because they somewhat emulate a hardware setup (and work very well with hardware). Thus, the producers who have grown up using hardware (most of the "pros") will feel comfortable with these programs. Don't assume that because they are comfortable, you will be too.
- No matter what program you use to make music, you will be able to make good music with it. If you are a good producer using a crappy program, you will still be able to make good music. If you are a crappy producer using a good program, you will still make crappy music. The different programs out there just make it easier to produce what you want to produce.
Thus, use what you feel comfortable using, not what someone "pro" likes, or what your friend says is "the best music program in the world!" Yes, gather suggestions from people to know what choices there are. Use their suggestions (if they provide more than just "Reason rules!") as a way of understanding the capabilities of a program, because obviously you will not be able to learn every inch of it without using it for some time. But don't interpret somneone's recommendation as what must be right for you.
For example, I am willing to bet there are very few people here (maybe 2 or 3) who have used Renoise. Yet many people will recommend Fruity Loops, despite not having used Renoise, and not being able to compare them. Why? Because Fruity Loops worked for them. But it doesn't they wouldn't have liked Renoise better. (Now that they are used to Fruity Loops, of course, they probably won't like Renoise, but that's a different story...) And it also doesn't mean that YOU won't like Renoise better.
So anyway, sorry about the really long response. Hope you weren't too bored while reading it.
In short: Try Buzz, Renoise, and Fruity Loops. Pick which one you can layout your songs the best on, not which one make the best sounds.
Whatever you end up with, have fun!
Brilliant. You gave me some excellent advice..I'll definatly be taking it all on board, now i know where to get those demo's and stuff. Nope wasnt bored reading it, it help me alot nice 1; i prob would have just gone with what most reccommended as the best but gonna try them all. Cheers
Take it easy.
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| Originally posted by brash - There is no reason at all to use a progam simply because of the sounds you get out of it. If you like the sounds, fine, use it to make the sounds, and use some other sequencer to put them together. Don't force yourself to use some sequencer just because it happens to go along with nice native softsynths. |
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| Originally posted by Flotser i realy wana use reason's Malstrom synth.... but there is no VSt version of it ofcourse..... beside this synth, i prefer fruity, so i'm stuck wothout malstrom for now |
yep i can sure use #2... i already did it once, but its not the same
anyway... i wish there would be a Malstrom VST!
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| Originally posted by DJ Fundamental Hey! Reason 2 is supposedly a real good bit of software. That's why I want it... |
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| Originally posted by bumbum ok let me brake it down for u fruityloops and reason are "toys" if u want to use proffesional tools use emagic logic which is only for MAC now they have stoped the updates for pc version use Cubase SX which is a powerful midi and audio prog also stienberg nuendo Reason 2 can be rewired in to cubase and used as a vst plug in |
yeah.. i agree with arctic
also... i feel that it is important to be comfortable with the software you choose... i personally think fruity is the best program for you to start with... it might not be the most powerful, but trust me, IT'S A HELL OF A LOT EASIER TO WORK WITH than some other programs...
but if you think fruity is just a "TOY" then you are wrong... many producers use only "fruity" and they can get out of it very professional sounds...
just think of it this way... would you rather have to spend a lot more time working on a song using a slightly more powerful program... or would you rather buy a cheaper program that lets you achieve basically the same quality... Fruity is not the most powerful program out there, but when you take in consideration that time = money, then fruity is a good solid choice.
just my 2 cents
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| Originally posted by bumbum fruityloops and reason are "toys" |
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| Originally posted by kewlness yeah.. i agree with arctic also... i feel that it is important to be comfortable with the software you choose... i personally think fruity is the best program for you to start with... it might not be the most powerful, but trust me, IT'S A HELL OF A LOT EASIER TO WORK WITH than some other programs... but if you think fruity is just a "TOY" then you are wrong... many producers use only "fruity" and they can get out of it very professional sounds... just think of it this way... would you rather have to spend a lot more time working on a song using a slightly more powerful program... or would you rather buy a cheaper program that lets you achieve basically the same quality... Fruity is not the most powerful program out there, but when you take in consideration that time = money, then fruity is a good solid choice. just my 2 cents |
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| Originally posted by Icarus That's a very ignorant thing to say, and usually comes from someone who can't use them and lacks patience. I haven't used Reason much, but Fruity is great. I know Airbase uses Reason only and it sounds fantastic. I know members on this board have had Fruity productions released on 12". Many people do complain about Fruity and quality, I don't. There are many freeware Buzz and VST effects that can be put in the master FX channel and fix some issues easily. And exactly what makes logic professional anyway? I can't believe how some people really don't get it, It's not about what you have - it's about how you use it. I don't think I'll even bother replying to arguments of this kind in the future: "Use Logic and Cubase and you'll become a professional producer in 10 minutes." "Professional producers use Logic, I must use it!" "Music can't be made without hardware!" Cheers. |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Hey ho, only the 2452387th thread about this... |
I've used Reason and Fruity and I have to vote for FL Studio (aka Fruityloops) as my favorite. Very versatile and easy to learn. Granted, there were a few bumps in Fruity that took a little getting used to, but they were minor compared to the benefits and ease of everything else in FL. Reason....well, Reason just doesn't click with me. I think Reason is really good for people who have experience with the actual components that are mimiced on it and want to crossover to computers. But for someone who never used these things, it's overly complicated. I swear, I can do things in FL in five seconds that take ten or twenty minutes to do in Reason. To be fair, I only used Reason 1, but I hear Reason 2 is ver similar. But, to each his own. People can argue this until the cows come home and never arrive at any resolution. Just give a bunch of demos a try and see which one clicks with you. Like I said above, Reason will probably be a little easier for you if you have experience with the components.
Reason + Cubase sx together.
Well I would recommend using reason and cubase sx together because it allows the brilliant sounds of reason and all its innovative wiring techniques. But using it with cubase allows the use of vst effects and synths with ease. Also that comment about reason being a tool is total stupid. Liam Howlett from the prodigy now uses reason and 50% of all his tracks on the new album due out in june/july were made in reason.
This shows that the top pros use it.
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| Originally posted by Thpus Also that comment about reason being a tool is total stupid. . |
the fruity users will recommend fruity
the reason users will recommend reason
the buzz users will recommend buzz
the cubase users will recommend cubase
etc..... etc..... etc.... etc.... etc....
so go with what you like
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