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Posted by St John on Jan-20-2003 15:21:

who is using cdr?

how many of you use cdr?

most of the djs we use plus myself are getting in to using cdr as you can get a whole alot more new tunes on cdr..its a shame but it is also the future....


Posted by Prototrance on Jan-20-2003 15:30:

As a producer I give out promos on CD-R because obviously its easier and cheaper than vinyl pressing, so I agree that DJ's have to start accepting it more. But it is happening, Ferry corsten was mixing promos off CD-R at passion and so was Tiesto at crasher.



Also mate, I notice you live in Derby. So do I, I live on Kedleston road. Where abouts are you???


Posted by St John on Jan-20-2003 17:13:

i live on woods lane so im not to far away, drop me an email at [email protected] as i may be able to help you out a little..


Posted by Nell on Jan-20-2003 18:30:

yep cds and cdrs are the future tiesto, pvd, hardwick, armin etc everyone uses them, and why not?! theyre great! and cheap


Posted by Az on Jan-20-2003 19:06:

heh "Just got my new tunes pressed" just isn't the same as "burnt my tune onto CD"
but there is some class unreleased stuff at the moment, whether it'll stay that way for long I don't know


Posted by Rhythm on Jan-20-2003 19:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Nell
yep cds and cdrs are the future tiesto, pvd, hardwick, armin etc everyone uses them, and why not?! theyre great! and cheap


Def is the future. There is just something so much better about handling vinyl though.


Posted by mikefasssy on Jan-20-2003 19:13:

I heard stories of people getting beat down for using cdr's. The future isn't cdr's anyways. The future is finalscratch and whatever offsprings it creates.


Posted by dJohn on Jan-20-2003 19:20:

quote:
its a shame but it is also the future....

Why is it a shame? if anything, it should be a big positive jump for DJs...with computers and digital music being integrated with everything these days, it provides flexibility, versatility, and most importantly affordability.

quote:
The future is finalscratch and whatever offsprings it creates.

FinalScratch, if you think about it, is an offspring in itself...it's an offspring of CDRs. I dunno about Final Scratch BEING the future, but there's definitly potential for it. As for CDRs, it's almost guaranteed that it'll be as common as vinyl for DJs in the upcoming future.
I posted an article of what I thoght of the whole CDJ vs Vinyl DJ thing a while ago...check it out.


Posted by Rhythm on Jan-20-2003 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by mikefasssy
I heard stories of people getting beat down for using cdr's. The future isn't cdr's anyways. The future is finalscratch and whatever offsprings it creates.


yeah, and at least with final scratch you can still use tables, so that's cool. plus u can take more than 10 times the amount of music you normally would physically be able too.


Posted by verminator on Jan-20-2003 19:46:

cds are the future of trance.. muhahaha

feck off

techno > trance


Posted by Nell on Jan-20-2003 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Rhythm
Def is the future. There is just something so much better about handling vinyl though.


try pioneer or denon digital turntables, its identical, only easier!


Posted by Spective on Jan-21-2003 02:00:

I dont see what the big deal is. Were in a state in the music industry, where producers are having to go back to finding 9-5 jobs at Starbucks, because they have to make a car payment just like the rest of us. I know many producers personally who you would think are living in the lap of luxury, but are struggling. Of course youd start giving your work out on CDR.

Putting your pride aside, vinyl or CDR, its music. Now whats not right is, downloading a song from a release group, and burning it to CDR and playing it out like you are some hot shot.

If the DJs are getting their material on CDR now, and you want this industry and music to continue evolving, then we shouldnt get slagged for spinning CDRs.

With the CDJ-1000, its practically like spinning with vinyl anyways, cept you dont have to worry about scratching your record or cleaning your vinyl thoroughly to remove static pops and hissing.

I think that CDJs are the future, because its making way, for smaller, amateur producers who have the talent, but not the finances to promote their tracks. To say that vinyl is non existant in 5 years might be pushing it, but if things continue goign the way they are, with labels folding like paper, you might have to get used to it.


Posted by KoreanDJ on Jan-21-2003 03:24:

It is happening.....just like VHS and DVD



Stevek


Posted by nate735 on Jan-21-2003 03:53:

Final scratch is the answer


Posted by on Jan-21-2003 07:52:

final scratch r0x0rz
thats definatly the way of the future..
big name djs are using it at the moment.
Josh winx is one of dem


Posted by mikefasssy on Jan-21-2003 07:57:

Vinyl won't die simply because Electronica isn't the only genre it caters to. THink about hip hop, you think dmc guys are be like "sweet, lets scratch on cdjs, it will be so PHAT!!!" Obviously not (and if they do that is just plain fucked up). Anyways, there are lots of djs out there for whom cost isn't a worry. I have used cdj, but can say nothing (and I mean it) beats vinyl. I can understand from a money point of view, but other than that I do not think we will see much of an advancement with cd's.

quote:
I dont see what the big deal is. Were in a state in the music industry, where producers are having to go back to finding 9-5 jobs at Starbucks, because they have to make a car payment just like the rest of us. I know many producers personally who you would think are living in the lap of luxury, but are struggling. Of course youd start giving your work out on CDR.


This is very true, using a cdr in a club is the same as downloading mp3s. Unless you pay a liscensing group etc, you steal music, with vinyl, you pay the label and royalties go to the artist. I know some people who buy the vinyl, but spin it on cdj. It just simply so they are legally allowed to play tracks.

I also dont see why you would want to own a flimsy peice of plastic instead of a thick sexy slab of vinyl. Vinyl is character. When you see a dj using cds, it kinda takes awway from the excitement of seeing a live dj (at least to me it does). When you see vinyl dj, it is like a reassurance that this is the good shit you payed for, the sexy styling vinyl that has been a medium for a loong time.



I think most of that made sense. Not sure, I'll edit later if it doesn't. Going to bed now.

Caleb


Posted by futurevision on Jan-21-2003 11:22:

CD-R is kool, and its much cheaper than FS system or vinyls pressing

its always handy knowing how to use just about nething from
finalscratch to vinyl to CDJ

a good dj can mix with anything you throw at him/her!


Posted by XxremedyxX on Jan-21-2003 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by KoreanDJ
It is happening.....just like VHS and DVD



Stevek


very good analogy. Yes i believe that new dj's start off with cd-r's now and that vinyl dj's are evolving into using cd-r's. it'll happen one day.


Posted by Mister_Michel on Jan-21-2003 20:42:

I'm gonna buy my gear soon, and its gonna be 2 gemini cdj-20's (http://www.new-line.nl/webshop/view.asp?i=142 )

Mostly because it's cheaper (I'm only 16 you see, and I have to finance it myself ) But who knows, later on i'll probably buy a couple of phonos too.


Posted by DJ Freestyle on Jan-22-2003 05:03:

Smoking ..umm..something

CDRs are being used so much more frequently since even just last year... I don't think they'll replace vinyl at all... But it's a great way of getting promos out cheaper & faster


Posted by shannonj on Jan-22-2003 05:16:

As a couple of people have said theres a serious danger in that these so called djs will dl wateva they like, throw it on cdr then play it out. It's one thing for some1 to throw their mp3s onto cd for their home or car stereo. But if your getting paid to spin tunes and your not even paying for those tunes then you deserve a beating. Talk bout biting the hand that feeds you.

Granted a certain ammount of cdrs do contain promo or unreleased material. But let's be realistic, there are a lot more that contain music which is widely available in stores. If you make a living out of djing or even a little extra cash then the least you can do is support the artists. DJ's don't exist without the artists (and vice versa).

Support the industry that supports you.


Posted by undertensecond on Jan-22-2003 09:39:

why CDR?bcoz of mp3s!



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