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Posted by The Greener on Jan-25-2003 06:42:

Feedback on Orto's

I was wondering why these are praised. I have used some Gold ones? at a Gig but you can't have an opinion on that.

Please don't post if these are the only Carts you've used. That is not an unbiased and experienced evaluation unless you say otherwise??

So Why would they be better than my Groove II's, well used I must add??? Please give answers to SELL me on Orto's, I have never researched them. Models, price, ect.

Thanks in Advance

P

Posted by KoreanDJ on Jan-25-2003 18:29:

I have one ortofon nightclub, and one stanton trackmaster 2. I have to say that ortofon really does make a difference. You could easily tell by how it sounds. Also I have to increase the tonearm weight on my trackmaster then my ortofon nightclub. I know Ortofon is much more expensive than Stanton and there is a reason for it. I would buy Ortofon over Stanton anyday.

Stevek

Posted by DjJade on Jan-25-2003 20:40:

i actually switched from the groove masters to the nightclub s's... at first i just got them becuase i heard they were better and it was time for me to change needles. i noticed that they have alot more detail especially in the upper trebble.... it made me imagine more sensitive needle that catches the smallest movements that are requred to produced very high pitched noises... and i guess with that sensitivity, i noticed that evrything was much more crisp. i just switched headphones from the sony v700s to the sennheiser hd280pro and the sound quality for switching needles was similar in that the nightclubs made the groovemasters sound a bit muddy. im not sure... it may be psychological but at the same time i know that i have a good enough ear to hear these things. oh and the gold ortofons are the same thing as the nightclub e's

Posted by The Greener on Jan-26-2003 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DjJade
i actually switched from the groove masters to the nightclub s's... at first i just got them becuase i heard they were better and it was time for me to change needles. i noticed that they have alot more detail especially in the upper trebble.... it made me imagine more sensitive needle that catches the smallest movements that are requred to produced very high pitched noises... and i guess with that sensitivity, i noticed that evrything was much more crisp. i just switched headphones from the sony v700s to the sennheiser hd280pro and the sound quality for switching needles was similar in that the nightclubs made the groovemasters sound a bit muddy. im not sure... it may be psychological but at the same time i know that i have a good enough ear to hear these things. oh and the gold ortofons are the same thing as the nightclub e's

WOW thanks good answer!!

Posted by DjJade on Jan-26-2003 00:43:

i try ; )

Posted by Phu on Jan-26-2003 02:09:

quote:
Originally posted by KoreanDJ
I have one ortofon nightclub, and one stanton trackmaster 2. I have to say that ortofon really does make a difference. You could easily tell by how it sounds. Also I have to increase the tonearm weight on my trackmaster then my ortofon nightclub. I know Ortofon is much more expensive than Stanton and there is a reason for it. I would buy Ortofon over Stanton anyday.

Stevek

So your saying that u would rather buy a more expensive needle but would u buy a more expensive mixer.

Posted by KoreanDJ on Jan-26-2003 06:11:

quote:
So your saying that u would rather buy a more expensive needle but would u buy a more expensive mixer.

If my opinion, if you need to sell your equipment for some reason, it is better off to have good equipment right off the bat. Equipment such as DJM-500 or 600 and 1200 mk2s. You will lose money no matter what (since it has been used) but atleast you will get more money than selling a gemini mixer and gemini turntables. I already have a Pioneer DJM-500. I had a Gemini mixer (only used it for 6 months) that I got for like $300 bucks, and I barely sold it to this guy for $150.

Stevek

Posted by KoreanDJ on Jan-26-2003 06:12:

oh G money, are you gonna sell me your PERAN. - Good time or what?
I'm still interested.

Stevek

Posted by Phu on Jan-26-2003 07:47:

quote:
Originally posted by KoreanDJ
oh G money, are you gonna sell me your PERAN. - Good time or what?
I'm still interested.

Stevek
U told me that u didnt wan't it and now your telling me u want it come on man, o.k send me a pm with all those tracks u want to get rid of.

Posted by KoreanDJ on Jan-26-2003 21:29:

I said I didnt want to trade and I will just buy it from ya.

Stevek

Posted by Hondaswaper on Jan-28-2003 01:13:

if you gonna buy the Ortofons Get the ones that mount on the stock HeadShells.....it will save your tonearm contacts , Trust me

Posted by The Greener on Jan-28-2003 03:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Hondaswaper
if you gonna buy the Ortofons Get the ones that mount on the stock HeadShells.....it will save your tonearm contacts , Trust me

Not that I don't trust you, but an explained reason why or your experience would be appreciated!

Posted by KoreanDJ on Jan-28-2003 04:13:

like DJ Jade said, ortofons sound so crisp, and I didn't really notice this until today. You are right man, the bass out of stanton cartridge is a lot harder and banging, but it doesnt pump out enough tremble.

Steve

Posted by The Greener on Jan-30-2003 07:27:

Ya BUT the Orto is Sphere and the Groove is Ellipse, did you take this in to consideration?? Treble Freq and deteriorate first on worm stylus.

F dis/..... enough on this topic for me

There must be a Stylii Sound Room somewhere!!

Posted by DjJade on Jan-30-2003 07:32:

thats true greener but i made my observations on new stylli for both... i have a pair of new groovemaster needles that i never used becuase i liekd the ortofons so much better.

Posted by spectra on Jan-31-2003 00:54:

At uni now, long time no post,

quote:
Ya BUT the Orto is Sphere and the Groove is Ellipse, did you take this in to consideration?? Treble Freq and deteriorate first on worm stylus.

Well.. The Ortofon DJ Nightclub S is spherical and the Nightclub E's are elliptical, and the E's are more expensive because they're meant to have a better dynamic range, aint used either tho, still no decks, poor uni student.

Posted by KoreanDJ on Jan-31-2003 17:49:

Whats the difference between spherical and elliptical neeldes???????

Stevek

Posted by DjJade on Jan-31-2003 17:53:

alot...use the search becuase there have been threads that span.... alot about the difference : )

Posted by Hondaswaper on Jan-31-2003 23:33:

ever seen a dj have to lick the contacts on an ortofon ???

thats because the regular ortofons wear out your tonearm contacts

get the ones that mount on the stock Technics headshell!!!!!