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Posted by discitelli on Jan-28-2003 23:20:

so i tried this experiment....

i was down the coast for 2 weeks, in jan juc, only came back 2 days ago now. Anyway while up there the jan juc surf lifeguard club (who i'm part of now) where having a funraiser night, anyway they asked me if i would dj there for them. They requested house music for the night, which is fair enough, i was actually expecting them to ask me to play fox fm's hottest 100 all over again, so i considered myself lucky. So yeah the night was banging, everyone was dancing and the general vibe was really good. AS the night got older, i decided to try something new, i began to move to a more darker style of electronic music, i started playing some trance.

Now im not talking boring tunes here, to start off i dropped PvD - for an angel, then moved on to utah saints - lost vagueness (oliver lieb remix) then a little dj tomcraft - lonliness etc.... and slowly but surly, the crowd seemed to thin, and eventually i found myself (no joke) alone playing nu-nrg - dreamland, i was like WTF! what are you guys doing!

i dont know even though it ended up being a great night, that was a real downer for me, i mean it seems like maybe trance just will never be appreciated in australia, and that kinda disapointed me. so yeah i know a good dj is meant to read a crowd, but what kinda crowd doesn't like the trance tunes i played!?

it seems the only time i'll get to spin some trance is at home, i doubt i will ever play it at a party ever again.

felt i had to share that with you guys......

p.s this isn't the first time its happened so that is why i have learnt my lesson


Posted by Pointy on Jan-29-2003 00:04:

I think the problem lies in that trance n techno all have a distinct electronic sound - sounds that aint live. House incorporates so many live instruments and sounds, that its less 'techy' n appeals to the vast majority as its more like a band. Ah well, at least you tried


Posted by matt_a on Jan-29-2003 00:13:

Been there done that, hopefully it wont happen next time as I wont be spinning trance.


Posted by Pointy on Jan-29-2003 00:45:

Justin Timberlake?


Posted by matt_a on Jan-29-2003 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by PointyDC
Justin Timberlake?


Yes

Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River (Hamel Dub Remix)

Brilliant tune! Bassline OMFG!


Posted by escee on Jan-29-2003 01:21:

quote:
Originally posted by PointyDC
I think the problem lies in that trance n techno all have a distinct electronic sound - sounds that aint live. House incorporates so many live instruments and sounds, that its less 'techy' n appeals to the vast majority as its more like a band. Ah well, at least you tried


thats a great point, i never thought about it like that before.


Posted by Sid on Jan-29-2003 07:12:

I think that most people are of the impression that Trance music is only for people who take drugs ! as we all know Trance means alot more than that, it has the ability to capture emotion like no other music genre can and its vast array of sub-genres only confirms its diversity. I believe that the ordinary individual is afraid of change, which is why many people cannot except electronic music and prefer their good old cheesy radio/house music.


Posted by Philby on Jan-29-2003 09:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancey Ash
Been there done that, hopefully it wont happen next time as I wont be spinning trance.


be gone from this forum! have at you!

quote:
Originally posted by S_madis
I think that most people are of the impression that Trance music is only for people who take drugs ! as we all know Trance means alot more than that, it has the ability to capture emotion like no other music genre can and its vast array of sub-genres only confirms its diversity. I believe that the ordinary individual is afraid of change, which is why many people cannot except electronic music and prefer their good old cheesy radio/house music.


hehe yeah i know, it sucks. pisses me off a little each time too.
someone new i meet: so what kind of music do u like?
me: i like trance
someone new i meet: ahh, pill popper! do u go to raves and take drugs???

seriously, every time i tell someone i like trance that is the first thing they say, never fails.


Posted by webmeister on Jan-29-2003 10:56:

hahaha i think we've all been there phils :/


Posted by DJ Dowlz on Jan-29-2003 11:42:

As a seasoned DJ of at least two 21st parties a month for the last two years, the secret is to mix in the great tunes between the commercial sh@t.

ie something along these lines
Fragma - Toca's miracle
Darude - Sandstorm
PVD - For an angel
Ian van Dahl - Castles in the sky
etc

Small quantities is the key. And learn how to mix your pop/house songs into your commercial trance. That will keep everybody on the dance floor. The other key is to minimise songs which have large breakdowns.

The other key is to drink lots of alcohol (which is typically supplied free of charge) so you can stand listening to yourself play Britney and Kylie for the 100th time.


Posted by matt_a on Jan-29-2003 11:53:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dowlz

The other key is to minimise songs which have large breakdowns.


Werd, do never attempt to play Art of Trance - Madagascar (FC Remix)

BAD MOVE!


Posted by Sid on Jan-29-2003 13:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancey Ash
Werd, do never attempt to play Art of Trance - Madagascar (FC Remix)

BAD MOVE!


OMG this track brings back memories


Posted by Philby on Jan-29-2003 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by S_madis
OMG this track brings back memories


lol
memories of paul going spastic at sugar suite last time


Posted by bassaholix on Jan-29-2003 21:43:

Hello!

quote:
found myself (no joke) alone playing nu-nrg - dreamland, i was like WTF! what are you guys doing!


LOL well dood.. reading the crowd... you must have been reading Irish or sumthing.. lmfao.. cause that ain't reading the crowd... i suggest that if ppl were dancing to house. then keep it @ that!!

PPl don't appreaciate trance/electronic music... dood.. u were @ a surfclub!! like hello.... Triple JJJ Hottest 100 like HELLO

they are called HINTS!!!


Posted by discitelli on Jan-29-2003 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by bassaholix
LOL well dood.. reading the crowd... you must have been reading Irish or sumthing.. lmfao.. cause that ain't reading the crowd... i suggest that if ppl were dancing to house. then keep it @ that!!

PPl don't appreaciate trance/electronic music... dood.. u were @ a surfclub!! like hello.... Triple JJJ Hottest 100 like HELLO

they are called HINTS!!!


hey they TOLD me to play house, and specifically said that they didnt want any rock or top 10 stuff. so i assumed they had a developed taste in electronic music, just because your at a surfclub doesn't mean the people there are all into rock and solely rock and all go to the big day out together, because im a wog does that mean i have to like electronic music? NO.

like HELLO!


Posted by discitelli on Jan-29-2003 22:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dowlz
As a seasoned DJ of at least two 21st parties a month for the last two years, the secret is to mix in the great tunes between the commercial sh@t.

ie something along these lines
Fragma - Toca's miracle
Darude - Sandstorm
PVD - For an angel
Ian van Dahl - Castles in the sky
etc

Small quantities is the key. And learn how to mix your pop/house songs into your commercial trance. That will keep everybody on the dance floor. The other key is to minimise songs which have large breakdowns.

The other key is to drink lots of alcohol (which is typically supplied free of charge) so you can stand listening to yourself play Britney and Kylie for the 100th time.


good tips, i will take that advice on board next time


Posted by christos on Jan-30-2003 14:57:

Brings us back to the question. What do people "really" want to listen to? I mean, that party may have appreciated that music in a different setting but at that time only wanted more commercial stuff. Set and setting play a huge role in the style of music the DJ plays and a crowd responds to, agreed.

If you were to be playing a side room at a rave for example, you would've had everyone by the balls. Don't think trance is dead, people are learning what trance is. Progressive sets on the other hand are just that, progressive. They are only aimed, again, at a particular audience as would trance.

I believe that vocal trance appeals to everyone especially women as sexy vocals is what women love to here in a track (as long as there are women in a club, there will always be men, that's how I see it anyway), in my experience. eg. Tiesto "Flesh", Lange "drifting away", Jan Johnston "silent words" Freefall "skydive" or even Conjure One "tears from the moon (tiesto remix)" to name a few.

Don't worry too much it's just the way of the world, you can't please everyone, but next time maybe drop a couple tracks to get a reaction, if negative, try mix quickly into something that would appeal etc. etc. As a DJ you're in control of the music so play like you are bruv!!!

PS. It's only advice when you take it.

Enjoy.


Posted by SQ-K on Jan-31-2003 02:41:

Damn, Dowlz, I shoulda got you to play at my 21st 18 months ago. That woulda rocked my socks .



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