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Posted by zarathustra on Jan-30-2003 04:41:

Behold, the secret of prog

I've been listening to lots of prog (trance/house) lately (past 6 months or so) and I have noticed a feature which a large majority of the tracks of this genre have in common:

Echoing vocal samples

Most trance will use vocals in a more standard fashion which more often than not I find annoying. For prog, I think that it adds a whole new positive dimension to the track in addition to magnifying it's dreamlike state inducing properties. But that's just my opinion.

Thoughts?

Posted by amit on Jan-30-2003 04:42:

Re: Behold, the secret of prog

quote:
Originally posted by zarathustra
I've been listening to lots of prog (trance/house) lately (past 6 months or so) and I have noticed a feature which a large majority of the tracks of this genre have in common:

Echoing vocal samples

Most trance will use vocals in a more standard fashion which more often than not I find annoying. For prog, I think that it adds a whole new positive dimension to the track in addition to magnifying it's dreamlike state inducing properties. But that's just my opinion.

Thoughts?

right on

Posted by DJ_Skaya on Jan-30-2003 04:52:

Yeah man, definitely. Seeing Digweed live at Area 2 this summer turned me into a prog head (as well as a trance master) and I just love a good progressive mix when all I feel like doing is losing myself in the music and doing a lot of head bobbing.

One of the coolest deep melodic progressive tracks is Escape - Salina. It's song #2 on the second disk of Digweed's Bedrock Compilation.

Also, the second Disk of Max Graham's Transport 4 Is just Incredible. It has to be one of the best Prog Mixes Ever, up there with Digweed's Bedrock CD's and Disk 2 of Global Underground Ibiza by Sasha

P.S. - For Tribal Progressive bliss, GU019 - Los Angeles (Digweed )

Posted by amit on Jan-30-2003 05:00:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Skaya
Yeah man, definitely. Seeing Digweed live at Area 2 this summer turned me into a prog head (as well as a trance master) and I just love a good progressive mix when all I feel like doing is losing myself in the music and doing a lot of head bobbing.

One of the coolest deep melodic progressive tracks is Escape - Salina. It's song #2 on the second disk of Digweed's Bedrock Compilation.

Also, the second Disk of Max Graham's Transport 4 Is just Incredible. It has to be one of the best Prog Mixes Ever, up there with Digweed's Bedrock CD's and Disk 2 of Global Underground Ibiza by Sasha

P.S. - For Tribal Progressive bliss, GU019 - Los Angeles (Digweed )

u went to area 2? soo did like all the ta's...thats when all us became prog heads

Posted by davinox on Jan-30-2003 05:03:

vocal prog is great.

Posted by DJ_Skaya on Jan-30-2003 05:41:

quote:
Originally posted by amit
u went to area 2? soo did like all the ta's...thats when all us became prog heads

Yeah man, I remember seeing all you guys there. I saw all you guys squeezing into one small car too I think

Anyways, yeah, I liked Digweed before, but Area 2 gave me a whole new respect for the man. His mixing was SO GOOD; I'm a DJ and I couldn't even tell when he was mixing most of the time.

Tiesto's set was decent, but Digweed just Fuckin OWNED!

Posted by johnson3161 on Jan-30-2003 05:45:

Re: Behold, the secret of prog

quote:
Originally posted by zarathustra

Echoing vocal samples

Thoughts?

I just started to get into progressive and I agree that vocals kick ass in progressive. They make the song sound much darker for me. I find myself liking mostly progressive songs with vocals.

Posted by RWC0412 on Jan-30-2003 05:57:

Just wondering since u guys are lovin the prog.. what u guys think the best prog. livesets are? how bout yer fav dj/artist/producer?

Posted by tranced_out on Jan-30-2003 05:59:

wat i've noticed over the past year is extensive use of 'bells' in alot of the tracks.

James Holden - Norhing
Sasha & James Holden - Bloodlock
King Unique - Sugarhigh
Mavi - Fallen
Yunus Guvenen - Euphrates
Lustral - Everytime (Yunus Remix)

and many more.....hope they don't overuse it.

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-30-2003 06:07:

yes, the vocals have more of an echo to them. It makes them more serene, imo...and like you said, gives the song an added depth especially when the echo is done very creatively. Checkout Kosheen - Hungry (Satoshi Tomiie vocal mix) or Timo Maas - Help Me (Deep Dish attacks mars mix) as well as some of the songs that were already mentioned like Holden's Nothing. Amazing stuff.

Posted by mos man on Jan-30-2003 13:48:

i dont know loads of artists and stuff but i do really love holden, and i also like max and digweed and others, i would like it if you reccomend me some sets to download guys

Posted by DJ-Kuza on Jan-30-2003 14:18:

I've always been a prog head, first and foremost.

Sasha and Digweed Live @ Immense Velocity
Sasha and Digweed Live @ Simmons
Digweed Live @ Karma

just to name a few.

Posted by tu_face on Jan-30-2003 14:25:

ye theres lots of prog that uses echoey fucked up vocal samples... this is because it sounds wicked hehe.. but that aint the key to prog, there plenty of quality prog wihtout a hint of vocals

Posted by Kirk on Jan-30-2003 15:03:

Posted by amit on Jan-30-2003 15:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Skaya
Yeah man, I remember seeing all you guys there. I saw all you guys squeezing into one small car too I think

Anyways, yeah, I liked Digweed before, but Area 2 gave me a whole new respect for the man. His mixing was SO GOOD; I'm a DJ and I couldn't even tell when he was mixing most of the time.

Tiesto's set was decent, but Digweed just Fuckin OWNED!

yup thats us

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-30-2003 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by mos man
i dont know loads of artists and stuff but i do really love holden, and i also like max and digweed and others, i would like it if you reccomend me some sets to download guys

dont just checkout sets; listen to some mix cd's as well. GU013 by Sasha and GU021 by Deep Dish are my fav's. I just bought GU021 yesterday and it's stuck in my head at the moment, its so fuckin good. I wanna get back home and just listen to it over and over. Dido - Thank You (Deep Dish mix) is one of the best songs I've ever heard.

Posted by DJ-Kuza on Jan-30-2003 15:51:

I like them all. But nothing beats a live set where you can hear the crowd. Talk about people and music feeding off each other to build energy. That's what it's all about. The Positive energy.

Posted by mos man on Jan-30-2003 16:02:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
dont just checkout sets; listen to some mix cd's as well. GU013 by Sasha and GU021 by Deep Dish are my fav's. I just bought GU021 yesterday and it's stuck in my head at the moment, its so fuckin good. I wanna get back home and just listen to it over and over. Dido - Thank You (Deep Dish mix) is one of the best songs I've ever heard.

ok mate, i will do just that and ill come back here to let you know what i think,

i have never heard a Gu cd but i know i would love to own the whole collection

Posted by DJ-Kuza on Jan-30-2003 16:24:

Global underground. And they are going out of business now. To many weak house mixes :/

Posted by zarathustra on Jan-30-2003 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by mos man
ok mate, i will do just that and ill come back here to let you know what i think,

i have never heard a Gu cd but i know i would love to own the whole collection

Damn, you've been missing out. I'm glad to see you're going to give GU a chance.

Posted by mos man on Jan-30-2003 17:06:

well i have always liked prog house just never got round to listening to gu

Posted by RWC0412 on Jan-30-2003 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
dont just checkout sets; listen to some mix cd's as well. GU013 by Sasha and GU021 by Deep Dish are my fav's. I just bought GU021 yesterday and it's stuck in my head at the moment, its so fuckin good. I wanna get back home and just listen to it over and over. Dido - Thank You (Deep Dish mix) is one of the best songs I've ever heard.

I would have to say you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO correct on the GU21
Just nice as ice..... Lovin it for sureeee

Posted by uberclkgtr on Jan-30-2003 18:35:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
ye theres lots of prog that uses echoey fucked up vocal samples... this is because it sounds wicked hehe.. but that aint the key to prog, there plenty of quality prog wihtout a hint of vocals

very true. but trance-heads seem to like the sasha wailing chick vocals tracks a lot.

Posted by noikeee on Jan-30-2003 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Skaya

One of the coolest deep melodic progressive tracks is Escape - Salina. It's song #2 on the second disk of Digweed's Bedrock Compilation.

yes.. that track is superb. one of the tunes that define "deep trance" to me. being looking for a full rip for ages, anyone got?

Posted by amit on Jan-30-2003 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Kuza
Global underground. And they are going out of business now. To many weak house mixes :/

umm noo...the whole electronic music industry is going down...soo get ur facts str8. btw owners were trying to do to much to fast!

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