Trance Growing? or starting 2 Die?

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Posted by Kirk on Feb-04-2003 17:19:

Trance Growing? or starting 2 Die?

Is Trance growing or beginning 2 die?, I live in Southern England (Bournemouth) and the nite life is pretty big down here, but i've noticed alot of places which have played trance in the past no longer do, and play shit like R'n'B or Hip Hop (how i h8 that music, sorry if u like it, but i really! h8 it)or cheesey Dance music . In fact one of the big nightclubs (the opera house) only has a Trance nite once a week on friday's, (Slinky)instead of it playing every nite. I wonder if the Trance scene down here is the case 4 any of u?

Posted by Noisician on Feb-04-2003 17:24:

aye, it's finally dead

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Feb-04-2003 17:28:

no i dont think its dieing. Will be around for a long time yet

Posted by Great Outdoors on Feb-04-2003 18:31:

Let's just hope trance as a sound will start to evolve. The reason why people say it's dying is simply because it has become a formulaic genre that isn't forward thinking anymore. It isn't evolving. And until something dramatic happens to the trance sound, tracks like Ligaya will not be enough to push trance forward. We can't just keep talking about '99..

Posted by Arbiter on Feb-04-2003 18:44:

In terms of sales, 2002 was the biggest year ever for trance. You figure it out.

Posted by Dark Apostle on Feb-04-2003 19:56:

The reason that rnb-clubs are growing like some ugly infection is because it's so popular. But that doesn't mean trance is dying. Coz amongst those rnb-ers (some-god save their soul ) there are those who listen to trance aswell.
So it's not because the clubs want to cash in the big money that trance died or is dying
Looking at growing popularity of hardstyle and the more and more appreciated progressive stuff (being it uk-flavored or lightning records style) I can fairly say that trance is far from dying.

Posted by Diehard_clubber on Feb-04-2003 20:03:

I've been into trance since the beginning and i have to say i'm loving some of the tunes at the moment more than other years.

There is a definitive split now between commercial trance and proper trance which didn't exist in the past. In my eyes, thats better!!

Posted by Dark Apostle on Feb-04-2003 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Diehard_clubber
There is a definitive split now between commercial trance and proper trance which didn't exist in the past. In my eyes, thats better!!

For us the high-evolved (aka TA-ers) there is , but for the barbarians it's all the same

Posted by Teknikol on Feb-04-2003 20:29:

it's just evolving mate

Posted by tranzformer on Feb-04-2003 20:40:

its still goin, just give it more time. things like tiesto's 8 hour gig will help. we need more new ideas.

Posted by romain_2k2c on Feb-04-2003 21:13:

As long people are caring about the death of trance, this means trance's still alive...

Posted by xcape on Feb-04-2003 22:29:

Trance is still becoming more popular,that's because of the good work of the big guy's armin ,tiesto,ferry. But trance needs some new impulses.There are lots of good dj's but only a small amount of really good producers.The best tracks always come from the same people.
Trance needs more producers otherwise the genre will become less popular.

Posted by chesco on Feb-04-2003 22:42:

I wouldn't say it's dying but it's definently declining. hopefully it will go more under ground cos it's far to commercialised rite now what with the gatecrasher compilations coming out every second month and the like. I see a huge increase in the popularity of techno tho'. I think this is cos' the quality is much higher just now than trance is.

I totally no what u mean about the r&b scene. it's the same up here in glasgow. far too many wiggers around for my liking.

Posted by Blue. on Feb-04-2003 23:32:

Down here they don't play trance on the radio very much but some DJ's spin here. Basically in my area people won't think trance is cool until other people do regardless of wether they like it or not, like mindless drones

Posted by gOOD-tRiP on Feb-04-2003 23:42:

In my area it seems like trance is growing because one of the biggest radio station that plays hip hop/RNB/pop/ballad is now starting to play trance and also opened up a weekly trance club. But they play alot of cheesy trance so im not saying its a good thing.

Posted by Dark Apostle on Feb-04-2003 23:51:

We used to have a Hardcore/Trance/Techno/Euro-House radio station a few years ago then it turned into a Dance radio station with a hardcore and a trance program. And now they're playing rnb,lounge, house and dance on it
It hate the extreme commercialisation of the music industry.

Posted by trippennuts on Feb-05-2003 00:32:

Dying my ass. Do any of you retards read magazines or pay attention at all to the news? or even probably your own scene? Trance went down but its building back up. The reason is because of trendy people making crappy trendy music, like "Castles in the Sky" and any dj sammy shit. Which therefor, makes people think.. all trance is like that. Anyway, just take a look at the TOP 10. Its growing, again and Im glad to be a part of it. DNB seems to be heading the way though, alot of people think that "DNB is cool" and that "Trance is gay". Fuck that. and fuck them

peace
-Andrew

Posted by BrainLifter on Feb-05-2003 00:49:

You see it with almost every kind of music genre. They come and go in waves.

Look at rock for an example, it was huge in the early 60's and then it was overcome by the disco movement throughout the 70's. Which then gave way to the New Wave craze of the early-mid 80's. Then in the the early 90's there was two movements Rock and Rap which followed us through today in which I think trance/electronica will begin to take over. (You kinda see it already with many many rock groups, almost all of rap, and pop singers all looking to electronics to make thier sounds.)

Now I do believe that trance/electronica really started back during the disco scene. Which then turned into trance/electronica... so I guess I'm saying disco's not dead....

Well ok maybe it is

Posted by Blue. on Feb-05-2003 00:56:

quote:
Originally posted by BrainLifter
You see it with almost every kind of music genre. They come and go in waves.

Look at rock for an example, it was huge in the early 60's and then it was overcome by the disco movement throughout the 70's. Which then gave way to the New Wave craze of the early-mid 80's. Then in the the early 90's there was two movements Rock and Rap which followed us through today in which I think trance/electronica will begin to take over. (You kinda see it already with many many rock groups, almost all of rap, and pop singers all looking to electronics to make thier sounds.)

Now I do believe that trance/electronica really started back during the disco scene. Which then turned into trance/electronica... so I guess I'm saying disco's not dead....

Well ok maybe it is

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Op there it is

Posted by BrainLifter on Feb-05-2003 18:48:

lol.... yea search function ()\/\/NZ

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Posted by chesco on Feb-06-2003 12:25:

quote:
Originally posted by trippennuts
Dying my ass. Do any of you retards read magazines or pay attention at all to the news? or even probably your own scene? Trance went down but its building back up. The reason is because of trendy people making crappy trendy music, like "Castles in the Sky" and any dj sammy shit. Which therefor, makes people think.. all trance is like that. Anyway, just take a look at the TOP 10. Its growing, again and Im glad to be a part of it. DNB seems to be heading the way though, alot of people think that "DNB is cool" and that "Trance is gay". Fuck that. and fuck them

peace
-Andrew

I think you would have to experience the scene here in the u.k. first. don't forget that the electronic scene here was peaking round about 1998 wheras in the u.s and places like it, where hip hop was always more popular, it's still in it's growth stages. this is why so many top dj's are trying to break into the american scene at the moment.

Posted by elena on Feb-06-2003 12:55:

it has reached its carrying capacity..

Posted by Ste on Feb-06-2003 12:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
In terms of sales, 2002 was the biggest year ever for trance. You figure it out.

yes! and i can imagien that will have been due to mp3 spreading trance to other parts of the world like america, yet the industry still tries to shun mp3. talk about biting the hand that feeds you!

Posted by Ste on Feb-06-2003 13:00:

Posted by sifntj0r on Feb-06-2003 13:52:

hmmm welllllll

i'd have to say where i live, 3rd biggest city in aus, that trance doesnt really exist here, we're pretty much a hardhouse/dnb/breaks town. But it's not to say we shun trance, on the other hand, we are shunned by promoters for some reason. Ferry didnt visit late last year when he was over here (instead went to smaller cities), and pvd's national tour (even though i wouldnt go to see him) won't be coming here too. This follows a familar pattern of being shunned by many europeans that tour here. So it's more by force, rather than option, that most of the ppl here are far more dnb/breaks/hardhouse orientated. Having said that, the quality of artists/dj's in those genres that tour is of first class standard. Which is also the reason, i believe our local dj's are of a very high standard too.

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