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Posted by Lira on Feb-06-2003 02:02:

How does your memory work?

I mean, I don't think we remember things the same way, do we? So, how's your memory? For example, closing my eyes, I can almost see some the things that happened to me (if you ask me about my first live set, I can close my eyes and tell you where each one of my friends were in the dancefloor), and I can also hear things I've been told in the past (even though I'm terrible to memorise whole conversations, meanwhile my brother is very good at it). I know some people can even remember smells (not my case).

So, how's your memory? What things can you easily remember and what can't you keep in your mind?


Posted by CheRRy_Trance on Feb-06-2003 02:17:

Monkey Dancer 2

I can remember a lot of trivial things, but when it comes to more serious stuff I usually forget. I can remember the way things taste and like little dumb facts that I hear. I have the worst time trying to remember my SS# and bank acount #

Plus I find if people ask me to remind them of something I forget about way before they do!


Posted by Prototrance on Feb-06-2003 02:33:

Memories are electrical signals from your senses interpreted by your brain and stored as patterns. I think that what makes you remember something is its persoanl significance to you. For example when I went to Egypt my mum wore the perfume 'Red' all the time. Whenever she puts it on I get very stark images of my time in Egypt accompanied by the 'gut feeling' I had during that holiday - one of curiosity.

Memories can be intensely complex also. I have many songs in my head - some I can "hear" almost like they are being played in the room I am in. If u think that an MP3 has a bit rate to determine its quality it makes you wonder how music "data" is stored as an memory electrical impulse pattern in your brain. Do we have bit rates????

I think the reason for memories are that they help define who we are. A person is shaped by their experiences and they need to be remembered in order for them to build on and progress with the development of the person.


Posted by CheRRy_Trance on Feb-06-2003 02:43:

Dancing Dude

Nicely put


Posted by Prototrance on Feb-06-2003 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by CheRRy_Trance
Nicely put


cheers!!


Posted by Lira on Feb-06-2003 02:51:

Gotta agree with Cherry_trance, that's a very nice post from prototrance

But if that's why we remember things, why do we keep so much useless stuff in our head? And why do we remember unpleasant things that won't change anything in our lives? (e.g. when I was around 7, I had a nightmare that a scorpion had poisoned me, and I still remember it - but that's doesn't change anything about myself, does it? I know it's a stupid example, but that's why I shouldn't remember it)


Posted by corsten_addict on Feb-06-2003 02:55:

Highly intriguing thread.

From a similar point of view, I think that having something stored in your memory isn't really dependent on how hard you want to try to remember it. That would explain why people don't always get a 100% result on a straight-forward memorisation test, even if you are given loads of time.

It's more about the relevance to the occasion and how unique it is compared to other occasions, I think.


Posted by Prototrance on Feb-06-2003 02:55:

Maybe that dream stayed with you because it made sense. Scorpion = dangerous - a warning - a lesson without pain if you will.
Maybe our brains are pre-programmed to remember things that are of use???


Posted by TrAnCeAkI on Feb-06-2003 03:08:

hehehe memory whats this? i dont even remember my family members!!! thats the truth!!!!!!!! OMG whats gonna happen to me when im 65?


Posted by BTG on Feb-06-2003 03:13:

quote:
Originally posted by TrAnCeAkI
hehehe memory whats this? i dont even remember my family members!!! thats the truth!!!!!!!! OMG whats gonna happen to me when im 65?


hopefully for your sake, and mine, there will be some sort of miracle drug.


Posted by fr0st on Feb-06-2003 03:22:

Everyone remember smells....I have a realy good memory i can remember whole pages of text once i read them, what clothes myfriends were wearing where and win like 3 years ago. yet for some god damn reason it seems my short term memory is fucked. i always loose my wallet/cell phone/car keys.


Posted by Sugarbean on Feb-06-2003 03:37:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
hopefully for your sake, and mine, there will be some sort of miracle drug.


me too...
my memory is absolutly terrible...especially with anything to do with numbers. doesnt matter what...phone number a house number....math...
im terrible remebering anything that has to do with numbers.


Posted by kirbtastic on Feb-06-2003 05:23:

i can never remember to put the toilet seat down .. other than that i guess mine is pretty good.


*dude wheres my car?


Posted by drizzt81 on Feb-06-2003 05:44:

Re: How does your memory work?

quote:
Originally posted by Maaz
So, how's your memory? What things can you easily remember and what can't you keep in your mind?


visual, touch, smell, hear

numbers are easy.. write them down a bunch of times.. done


Posted by cap on Feb-06-2003 06:09:

What does memory mean again?


Posted by elena on Feb-06-2003 12:31:

hoenstly, no one knows yet.
however the most accepted theory, shall we call it was from two psychologists. hence the model name is the atkinson & shiffrin model. (dont ask about spelling correctness)
basically think of the brain as a square box. actually here's a pic.


Posted by Ste on Feb-06-2003 12:52:

i have a photographic memory, i can remmeebr the msot stupid and obscure things from years gone by, but by short term memory is a bit wierd.

mostly rmemebring stuff is triggered by sumthing associated by the memory in question.


Posted by Lira on Feb-06-2003 15:29:

I was a bit worried about my short term memory (it sucks ), but I've just realised that I'm normal
quote:
Originally posted by miss_e

Nice organogram
quote:
Originally posted by Prototrance
Maybe our brains are pre-programmed to remember things that are of use???

Makes sense... might be a self-defense mechanism (not to do the wrong thing twice )
quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81
numbers are easy.. write them down a bunch of times.. done

I do something similar... I just repeat the number (or date) to myself a couple of times and it's enough
quote:
Originally posted by cap
What does memory mean again?

I don't remember either


Posted by Trazedict on Feb-06-2003 21:16:

i like to think a lot, even if its small, little things, or big complicated things. ill study people.. a LOT. maybe cuz im just interested about them or i want to find out what exactly attracts me to them. i take the train to and from school everyday so i study people a lot of there, and i remember them easily.
and oddly, i like to think about things and say to myself.. 'hmm will i remember this a couple days from now?? i wonder...' maybe its some stupid thing someone said or some odd tidbit that happened that day, or just the way someone did something, and usually when i do that i will remember it, cuz what i take more than a couple seconds to think about, i will most likely remember.


Posted by chris_norris on Feb-06-2003 23:30:

quote:
Originally posted by miss_e
hoenstly, no one knows yet.
however the most accepted theory, shall we call it was from two psychologists. hence the model name is the atkinson & shiffrin model. (dont ask about spelling correctness)
basically think of the brain as a square box. actually here's a pic.


This was part of my memory area of my Psychology course. There were a few other theories that i can't remember right now (irony ) but this was the one we focused on most. There's also the idea that the things we remembered are driven by the things that mean the most to us, like im more likely to remember someone i know clearly than walking to the shop for a pint of milk. And also say like when your emotions are heightened (say your victim of a shop robbery) memory is more likely to be vivid. Also theres the view that things that mite be detriemntal to your mental health you might try to forget, like bad memories of anything you found frightening etc. I may be talking utter shite, this was a year ago. But it seemed to make sense. The things you value the most are the things you want to remember and stuff that makes you sad you try to forget.


Posted by elena on Feb-06-2003 23:44:

yeah i learned it in my IB Psychology class...
was that from the Behaviorist perspective?


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Feb-06-2003 23:54:

why we remember shit

i know i have a horrible time remembering 'what goes where' a lot of time but im pretty keen on verbal memory e.g. remembering what somebody said, or you read...


Posted by kirbtastic on Feb-07-2003 00:11:

memory is a funny thing, and its amazing how the brain works. my best friend's older brother got into a motorcycle accident and lost all memory. he was supposed to die, but he made it. we had to teach him how to do everything again .. reading, walking, and stuff as simple as that. he also didnt remember any of us. he was a mean ******. he would be the shit out of me and his brother. he was a cop and one time he handcuffed me to the stairs and his brother to a chair and left us for 6 hours. his brother could at least walk around, but i was stuck in the same position the whole time. after the accident, he became such a nice person. he was always polite and happy to see everyone. then like 4 years later i got a phone call from my friend to come over. as soon as i walked in the door, his brother threw me on the ground, handcuffed me and gave me a terrible wedgie. he woke up that morning and every memory he ever had returned. he was just like he was before the accident....lucky us.


Posted by elena on Feb-07-2003 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by kirbtastic
memory is a funny thing, and its amazing how the brain works. my best friend's older brother got into a motorcycle accident and lost all memory. he was supposed to die, but he made it. we had to teach him how to do everything again .. reading, walking, and stuff as simple as that. he also didnt remember any of us. he was a mean ******. he would be the shit out of me and his brother. he was a cop and one time he handcuffed me to the stairs and his brother to a chair and left us for 6 hours. his brother could at least walk around, but i was stuck in the same position the whole time. after the accident, he became such a nice person. he was always polite and happy to see everyone. then like 4 years later i got a phone call from my friend to come over. as soon as i walked in the door, his brother threw me on the ground, handcuffed me and gave me a terrible wedgie. he woke up that morning and every memory he ever had returned. he was just like he was before the accident....lucky us.


^^ it's a nice optimistic story


Posted by Spad on Feb-07-2003 00:17:

Memory is a complex thing and quite relative.

For example, my earliest memory is this: I have some scars on my chest from when I was very young. I remember getting them, I pulled a cup of boiling water (in the process of being made into a cup of tea) from the kitchen workstop down onto myself and burnt my chest. I remember this vividly; the exact position of the cup on the worktop, I can picture my hand reaching up towards it and I can remember my mother pretty much throwing me into the bathtub and turning on the cold tap.

Anyway, for reasons I wont go into, I recently found out that this memory is completly 100% made up! The story of how I got the scars is completly different, just that when I was younger my mother told me I got them "by pulling a cup of boiling water onto myself", she didn't go into any more detail than that, my brain just filled in the missing information by itself. The strange thing is, I still have this "memory" now and think of it as though it actually happened.

It's a bit of a headfuck trying to comprehend it never happened!

I believe many of our life memories follow a similar pattern, we remember the important details, those which are vital to the the memory of the incident, and our brain "makes up" the rest so such an extent that our concious mind doesn't even know which parts are real and which aren't.

At the end of the day, a lot of what we think we remember, is just a memory of a memory.....

I feel I've stopped making sense now.....


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