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Posted by Peter Campbell on May-19-2001 07:52:

Red face

Pop , why dose every one like it ? do these people Know that theres other music out there or are they just Feed what the recording commpanys give them and thats the same thing for the past 10 years now with only little change . The only time they change is when some one has a big number one hit , then everyone wants to produce that sound . A good exp of this is Cher / belive , she used a vocoder and now 1/3 of the songs in the charts have it even Faith hill and she is country . this is ridiculers


Posted by Paul Griffiths 1 on May-19-2001 08:36:

Pop is always so "popular" because it's easily obtained to hear where ever you are. It's on the radio, in music shops, shopping malls, in your car, in the toilet & everywhere else.

Because of that, people listen to it through habbit I think, and just put up with it. So in a sense most of the poulation in the world does just that. Most people can't be bothered going to the length that you or I do by searching for as much new Trance or any other particular style other than Pop, well, that's the way I look at it anyway.


Posted by breakdown on May-19-2001 11:40:

pop.. = =popular... hence the name?
hehe
there will always be pop coz ppl have nothing else betta to listen to
and i guess its getting to be more crap and crap with all the lil S Club 7s.. and A_Teens n wuteva
but *shrugs*
it doesn't bother me


Posted by JdDark on May-19-2001 11:51:

pop sux and we all know it


Posted by Nastra Azzurro on May-19-2001 12:07:

Pop is followed by sheep...it music for the masses. I think that pop is crap....Its commercial...anything commercial is usually fake...I mean its all for the money..and none for the love...whatever man


Posted by Eugene on May-19-2001 15:12:

King

"Pop" comes from the word "popular."
It's referred to as "popular" because this is precisely the kind of music that appeals to the masses. It's not repetitive, it has vocals, and it's closer to traditional music, so more people can relate to it.

Remember, even the word "song" comes from the verb "to sing" (think: vocals), and pop has songs. On the other hand there's almost no such thing as "trance song," there are "trance tunes." There you have it, another difference.

Pop is simply more traditional and appeals to a wider age group.


Posted by LiquidX on May-19-2001 16:20:

Yeap, " POP " popular music.... is annoying!!! totally... cant stant thos Nsync, and BSB, I try to get everyone exposed to trance.. my sister, parents, even granparents
:-)~.. hehehe.. but its ashame that they dont understan the trance.. they say is annoyng.. im like WTF!!! this tune is the most beautifull thing ( when Playin Rank 1- airwave ) they dont even like that.. just alice deejay.. they say POP music is easier to listen to, and has a meaning ?!?!?! so thats when you come to a conclusion that Trance music is for the hardcore people.. the younger generation.. and well.. the younger generation thats into pop.. guess we gotta feel sorry for them.. and I dont blame them, blame the stupid monopoly that there is in the USA, and maybe other countries.. ( except Holland, UK, germany.. they are way too exposed to the good stuff)


Posted by goodnet on May-19-2001 17:05:

blah, I have distaste for those chemically-engineered-for-$$$ pop groups (backstreet boys, nsynx, britney-ho, etc). They make me sick... don't deserve to be called artists at all.


Posted by Eugene on May-19-2001 17:37:

Cool

quote:
[i]...except Holland, UK, germany.. they are way too exposed to the good stuff [/B]


Perhaps, but keep in mind that in every country pop is more or less the most dominant kind of music.

And think about trance. This may sound blasphemous to the trance community, but we tend to like trance tunes that are closer to pop. You can't escape this simple truth. Somebody mentioned Rank 1-Airwave, that's as close to pop as trance can come.

Have you noticed how on this site techno is much, much less appreciated than trance? That's because trance as a music genre is closer to pop, than is techno. It's got melody and frequent vocals, for example, unlike techno.

We simply have to face the fact that "easier-to-swallow" music influences all of us, even in the trance genre. If music is accessible, it will appeal to a larger audience.


Posted by Johnny Eckhardt on May-19-2001 17:56:

Wink

One of the reasons so many like pop is because they don't know any better. They just take what's dished out to them and that's usually by people who know very little, if anything, about music. It's a very sad situation.


Posted by KaNoS on May-19-2001 19:56:

Lightbulb

Eugene...agree totally with u

pop is popular by the simple fact its easy to listen, its catchy, and u can hear it everywhere

and where i live, most people like that stuff, because when they hear it, they just start sing the lyrics, which they cant do with trance


Posted by beroshima on May-19-2001 20:09:

The thing about pop music, is that it is just that, popular. What makes something popular? Accessability, and momentum. The problem all of us have is that most art is made to be inaccessable, and separating it from the masses. All the music that is made accessable, is dumbed down, trimmed, mass produced versions of the real thing, and you get to the state where we are today. Manufactured pop bands are not artists! Believe me, if I ever get to producing, I will make semi-accessable music.

Now, its not always been like that. If you look at wack art nowadays vs warhol in the 60s, that is a perfect example. Everyone could see Warhol's works and understand it. Go to 99.9% of gallery artists today, and you need an MFA to get it. Or, 80 years ago when classical music was in the mainstream. Debussy and Ravel were geniuses in their own right -and- were pop artists of their day.

You don't know how many people whose extent of musical knowledge has been 'Castles in the Sky' - i've shown them Tiesto, Digweed, Cass, whatever - and the've loved it even more. But that's the corporations for you, controlling the airwaves and CDs we can buy...


Posted by The Greek on May-20-2001 02:35:

you right johnny eckhardt..they DONT know any better and thats just sad..i have proof of this cause one time this girl asked me what music i like and i told her trance techno house and shes like hmm..ive heard of techno but whats the rest? (and when she thought techno she thought the prodigy)so in the u.s. it is dismal..any kind of music made just for money and MANUFACTURED is bullshit..isnt it so obvious that its put together by the recod companies to be able to return maximum revenue? i mean look at tv theres like 10 shows where they are MAKING bands i mean wtf is that? the record companies control all of it so its gauranteed to be shit.. you force people together, throw them a loop and a couple of lyrics, tell them how to dress and how to act, and you got yourself pop music.


Posted by Peter Campbell on May-20-2001 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Eckhardt
One of the reasons so many like pop is because they don't know any better. They just take what's dished out to them and that's usually by people who know very little, if anything, about music. It's a very sad situation.


Posted by breakdown on May-20-2001 12:18:

wut bugs me a lot is the some trance is gettin to have some "pop' elementes in them.. such as all the sampling of old songs.. REM, etc..
just for commercial viability..


Posted by Peter Campbell on May-20-2001 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity
wut bugs me a lot is the some trance is gettin to have some "pop' elementes in them.. such as all the sampling of old songs.. REM, etc..
just for commercial viability..
I know what you mean infinity , it must be the money factor again


Posted by breakdown on May-20-2001 13:33:

yea.. its the money factor.. in this day.. money overcomes music... =p



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