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Posted by AnotherWay83 on Feb-15-2003 04:08:

massive anti-war rallies across the world...

the first of which was in australia today...abt 100,000 ppl...and over the next day or so theres gonna be huge ones in london, italy and germany and maybe even other countries...read more here:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/872342.asp?vts=021420031930

i for one am quite happy abt this


Posted by TheDemon on Feb-15-2003 04:48:

Iam gonna be in the one in Toronto. Iam glad to see people all over the world, even in the usa realize that war does nothing but bring problems. We must all band together and show true pride. War is war, and it will never solve a damn fucking thing. And to Geoge Bush, take that you fucking loser. Bet you never saw this coming.


Posted by Cyrus King on Feb-15-2003 04:54:

I LOVE IT!!!!!

The world has never seen such opposition to war as great as this!

George Bush.... the world is basically telling you to FUCK OFF!!!!!!


Posted by tiesto14 on Feb-15-2003 05:13:

quote:
Originally posted by TheDemon
Iam gonna be in the one in Toronto. Iam glad to see people all over the world, even in the usa realize that war does nothing but bring problems. We must all band together and show true pride. War is war, and it will never solve a damn fucking thing. And to Geoge Bush, take that you fucking loser. Bet you never saw this coming.


I am sure Bush saw this coming....usually with every war there are protests....nothing new.


Posted by tiesto14 on Feb-15-2003 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King


George Bush.... the world is basically telling you to FUCK OFF!!!!!!



intelligent....


Posted by Cyrus King on Feb-15-2003 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
intelligent....


Yup...the world is smart for doing this.. at least they know its wrong!


Posted by JohnSmith on Feb-15-2003 06:22:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
I am sure Bush saw this coming....usually with every war there are protests....nothing new.


tiesto14! great to see you back old chum.

and by the way, this IS something new. these are the largest protests EVER before a war. not a single bomb has been dropped (unless you count the continuous ten year bombing of the "no fly zone)and the protest are approaching the size of the vietnam protests, which eventually stopped the war.

I will be joining the thousands tommorow to march as well.


Posted by davinox on Feb-15-2003 06:23:

this could all be avoided if sadam would fucking comply for once.


Posted by TuanAnh213 on Feb-15-2003 06:42:

george bush should fuck off...he's the worst president since ford

i'm ashamed to be an american rite now


Posted by tiesto14 on Feb-15-2003 06:53:

quote:
Originally posted by TuanAnh213
george bush should fuck off...he's the worst president since ford

i'm ashamed to be an american rite now



why was Ford bad?.....u mean worse since Clinton....

and if your ashamed to be an American...i am sure living in iraq or maybe beirut would suit you beter....you have no idea how good you have it America....


Posted by Renegade on Feb-15-2003 08:25:

150,000 people marched in Melbourne yesterday, and they're expecting even more in Sydney tomorrow. I had friends there, but I was cooped up at work (didn't hear about it until it too late to find cover unfortunately). But still, they were only expecting 20-30,000 people I think, so that's a pretty good indication of what the average Australian feels right now.

Hopefully the rest of the world (especially people in the US) can follow suit, and at the very least get the message across to George Bush (and Tony Blair and John Howard) that the majority of the world's population find this war unnecessary and - at base - completely unjust.

quote:
I am sure Bush saw this coming....


I'm not sure that he did. These are the biggest pre-war protests ever (the bigger Vietnam protests were staged during the war, when people starting getting images into their homes about what was going on over there) and I think that the US government's reaction to French and German dissonance demonstrates that the US aren't used to being told that they're in the wrong - especially by their closest allies (what they fail to realise is that being "allies" with another nation doesn't mean that one must kowtow and be entirely subserviant to the other, agreeing with every decision it makes). Powell looked beseiged last night in front of the UN, and his ad-lib speech looked like a frustrated plea more than anything else. Perhaps they're starting to realise that being a part of an international community involves compromise, and that if you demand your own way at all costs then you're going to get rebuked for it.

I don't think the US quite realises just how strong the anti-US sentiment is around the world at the moment, even in countries like the UK and Australia - its two closest allies in this war - the majority of the population disagree vehemently disagree with a US-led war on Iraq. If the US goes to war with Iraq (especially if it decides to use the nuclear weapons its hinted at using) I don't think it quite understands how forceful the international reaction - especially amongst average citizens like us - is likely to be.

Bush is an evil man, with scant regard for human life, the environment or any international issues whatsoever (except for those from which he and his nation stand to gain from of course). I think these anti-war protests are as much a condemnation of Bush's policies and his nation's history of such policies, as it is a demonstration against the new Gulf War. Bush must realise that the longer his militant invective continues, the louder the masses are going to get.


Posted by fastmp3 on Feb-15-2003 13:23:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
why was Ford bad?.....u mean worse since Clinton....

and if your ashamed to be an American...i am sure living in iraq or maybe beirut would suit you beter....you have no idea how good you have it America....



and what's wrong with beirut you idiot ? have you even been there ? trust me it's waaaaaay better than any white trash redneck lil' town in your lovely america


Posted by LiquidX on Feb-15-2003 16:03:

Bush sucked himself UP ! Bush sucked himself UP ! ! ! LoL ! Really, has Bushed talked since the UN meeting ? No .. Has Bush even showes his face ? ? No .. Bush hasent said a word since Powell talked on the UN council when Hans Blix gave the experts poing of view.. Bush sucked HIMSELF UP ! The Bush Administration a a big time tournout..

And now with the protests... he is got the whole world against him.. yes , the WHOLE WORLD against him .. exepet, maybe Israel.

to Bush


Posted by Dj-Steve on Feb-15-2003 16:05:

hrhrhr, i would really like to see americans messing up with Usama Bin Laden once again! they'll get some israeli ballz!


Posted by Az on Feb-15-2003 17:37:

half a million people in London today, I couldn't get there though


Posted by Blik on Feb-15-2003 17:46:

50000-60000 people in Amsterdam today, which is quite a lot for Dutch measures


Posted by Sand Leaper on Feb-15-2003 17:54:

Several thousand(3-4000 or so) in tiny Kristiansand in Norway.I was too tired to make it,tho.


Posted by Eugene on Feb-15-2003 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Blik
50000-60000 people in Amsterdam today,

not really.

quote:

Crowds were estimated at 10,000 in Amsterdam

http://www.msnbc.com/news/872342.asp?0cv=CA01


Posted by Az on Feb-15-2003 18:06:

scrap that
nearly TWO MILLION marched in London today!


Posted by LiquidX on Feb-15-2003 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
scrap that
nearly TWO MILLION marched in London today!


Really ? They said 500,000 people ..

Another odd thing, the Britains were just last week leaning more tours a confrontation with Iraq as Blair said, but now I dont know what the polls are saying.. but if that many people are saying NO TO WAR.. then the numbers against war in general in UK must be very very big .. about 80% id say ?


Posted by melech_mike on Feb-15-2003 18:21:

quote:
scrap that
nearly TWO MILLION marched in London today!


Always knew London had a huge Terrorist supporting population... but 2 million?!? Wow!

AZ - which one did you goto?
could have sworn i saw you on the news wearing a kefia... but than again, they all wear that shit.


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Posted by Blik on Feb-15-2003 18:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
not really.


http://www.msnbc.com/news/872342.asp?0cv=CA01


I think the Dutch media and the Dutch police know this a little bit better then some lam0r from NBC

quote:

AMSTERDAM - Vanuit het hele land zijn zaterdag duizenden mensen naar Amsterdam gekomen om te demonstreren tegen oorlog in Irak. Een woordvoerster van de politie schat dat er tussen de 55.000 en 60.000 mensen waren.


I rest my case


Posted by Blik on Feb-15-2003 18:24:

quote:
Originally posted by melech_mike
Always knew London had a huge Terrorist supporting population... but 2 million?!? Wow!

AZ - which one did you goto?
could have sworn i saw you on the news wearing a kefia... but than again, they all wear that shit.


you shut stop putting people down

you know that I can suspend you with 2 clicks of my mouse, I am sick of your attitude


Posted by melech_mike on Feb-15-2003 18:26:

quote:
I think the Dutch media and the Dutch police know this a little bit better then some lam0r from NBC


NOT true at all... what makes you think the credibilty of the dutch media (which is watched by a far smaller population) supercedes that of NBC?

quote:
I rest my case


Its one newgroup VS. another, find more sources before you rest you weak case!


Posted by JohnSmith on Feb-15-2003 18:27:

This is amazing we are getting front page coverage on all the major news networks, even CNN!

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/15/sp...main/index.html

http://go.msn.com/CM/15334/default....activists030215

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/02/1...activists030215

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2765041.stm

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.a...55E2702,00.html


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