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Posted by DigDeep on Feb-15-2003 22:50:

Should The Guvernment lower capacity/raise ticket price?!?

I am one of many who would much rather spend $20 to go to a party where i actually have room to dance, rather than be crammed and just stand and listen. My idea? - cut down capacity to 80% and double ticket price to $20. What do you guys think?


Posted by Crazy Serb on Feb-15-2003 23:06:

Whatever they do with ticket prices/capacity, it won't attract me back in...
Now, if they were to fix the ventilation so I don't smell (ok, stink) like smoke and cigarettes once I get out, now that would be a much better move...


Posted by LKD on Feb-15-2003 23:47:

well ticket prices for big nights are usually 15 bucks and doubleing that would be 30..i wouldnt pay more than 15 to see a DJ unless its a HUGE name like Tiesto and so on.


about capacity in relation to doubling price. they dont need to double priceand have capacity @ 80

100% capacity gives them generally a profit. they can make marginal profit @ 90% and break even @ 80 %...yet the promoters are greedy for money..wat can we do?


Posted by Durafei on Feb-16-2003 00:01:

I think the best solution would be to simply move Guvernment to Kool House. Even during Tiesto, it wasn't overpacked at all, that's how big it is.


Posted by mecha on Feb-16-2003 00:06:

more ppl means that they will buy more drinks
and I think clubs are making profit not from door or capacity
but from a drinks, so more ppl are in the club the hotter it will gets and bars will be busier.

Think business and put customer satisfaction and music aside it is all MONEY business.

cheers


Posted by LKD on Feb-16-2003 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by mecha
more ppl means that they will buy more drinks
and I think clubs are making profit not from door or capacity
but from a drinks, so more ppl are in the club the hotter it will gets and bars will be busier.

Think business and put customer satisfaction and music aside it is all MONEY business.

cheers


well u know what, its greed on part of the promotin company as well as the guv...cos the promotion company regains its money spent and makes profit if any from cover... the more people they let in, the more money they make themselves


Posted by E*Master on Feb-16-2003 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by mecha
more ppl means that they will buy more drinks
and I think clubs are making profit not from door or capacity
but from a drinks, so more ppl are in the club the hotter it will gets and bars will be busier.

Think business and put customer satisfaction and music aside it is all MONEY business.

cheers


I totally Agree. I think the cover only pays for the DJ + expenses where the booze is where they make their real profit. As to the question if I should pay more for les cram, my answer simpky is, why the fuck should I?? Cover @ guv (especially for a special event) $25++ and drinks which are already expensive there and not all that good. You know what? I see viva Growing at a great pace, where I do have to travel far, yet I am not in a sardine. I wish viva would buy out Guv and open there. I only go to Guv if I have to (since Armin will not spin anywhere else). Other than that I am Pro Viva all the way and I refuse to pay Guv any of my money.


Posted by LKD on Feb-16-2003 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by E*Master
Other than that I am Pro Viva all the way and I refuse to pay Guv any of my money.



hey we all know why ur pro viva...only cos of the number of asian honnies....its heaven for u everytime ur there


Posted by E*Master on Feb-16-2003 01:06:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee
hey we all know why ur pro viva...only cos of the number of asian honnies....its heaven for u everytime ur there

Until you can come up with any scientiffic proof for your statement that shall remain a rumor.


Posted by BANDIT on Feb-16-2003 01:32:

why don't they just open the whole guv with every room open, people would spead out...That would not fix the whole problem of the GUV being packed but you would have more choices...


Posted by DigDeep on Feb-16-2003 01:50:

7 to 1 in favour of change......not surprising at all.


Posted by Durafei on Feb-16-2003 02:03:

I say leave it the way it is... I only go to Guv on special occasions. And there are soo many people just like me. Which means that for special occasions at Guv, even if the cover is $30, it will be just as packed. So yeah, I'd rather pay 10-15$ for that "ultimate experience".


Posted by Time2Burn on Feb-16-2003 03:15:

No.

I need an Option 3: Reduce the amount of people they let in for crazy nights and keep the cover the SAME!

Reducing it to 80%? Naw. Just reducing their capacity to a regular 100% would be nice. Instead of 120%


Posted by dEsidEL on Feb-16-2003 03:21:

KarateKid

here's my question.. is it really necessary to pack the place like a sardine can just for the club to make a profit? Couldn't they still make enough money by saying have it 80% full? If they can, then like LKD said, it's pure greed..

but hey you know what, remember that place is an accident waiting to happen. if someone dies or is seriously injured, i won't be surprised to see a huge lawsuit against them.


Posted by E*Master on Feb-16-2003 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
here's my question.. is it really necessary to pack the place like a sardine can just for the club to make a profit?


They do that because it is Legal. I don't know how. But as stated, it is an accident waiting to happen. Can you say "fire hazard"? If that place caught on fire it would be like that Club in Quay city (sp?) In the philipines where over half the ppl in teh club dies becasue of the fact it was so crowded that ppl could not get tot he fire exit in time.


Posted by DigiNut on Feb-16-2003 04:48:

Well I think most of us have caught onto the fact that the Guvernment's ramming policies are due to greed.

So why do we even talk about it? They don't give a shit.

I'm sure that 99% of all people on TA think that the Guv needs to implement some changes. Unfortunately, 99% of TA is not even 1% of the Guv's regular crowd, and they know that. Their regular crowd is happy with the place being crammed because they don't care much about the music anyway, and more people slightly increases their chances of picking up.

It's never going to change. The good news is that there are other clubs out there (like Viva) that do seem to care. Support them (I know you all do anyway).


Posted by Crazy Serb on Feb-16-2003 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by E*Master
If that place caught on fire it would be like that Club in Quay city (sp?) In the philipines where over half the ppl in teh club dies becasue of the fact it was so crowded that ppl could not get tot he fire exit in time.


GUV has a fire exit? Damn...


Posted by Trancewave on Feb-16-2003 13:33:

quote:
Originally posted by fantom
GUV has a fire exit? Damn...


no kidding, I've been to Guv a zillion times and I wouldn't even know where the closest fire exit is.

And about dropping down the capacity to 80%, there is absolutely no way Guv is going to do that and you know it. I think Guv is packed at 150% night in and night out, not 100%. It's just sickening that a club can do that to it's patrons.

I haven't been back to Guv in months now so I'm not sure how things are now though.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Feb-16-2003 19:04:

I'm with Durafei. I go there maybe once every three months, I think I can handle the crowds for one night. I have been to enough parties to be able to deal with it. I know that it is annoying to not have room to dance but that only happens for a specific persiod of time like between 3 and 5 and the rest is not that horrible.


Posted by discojoe on Feb-16-2003 19:26:

Its not just the guvernment. So many clubs pack it beyond capacity. The 'official' capacity of the guvernment is only 1400 isnt it? And I am sure they have at least double that on some occasions. The fire marshals HAVE to be bought. Because it is such a blatant violation. Its going to take a huge accident before something is changed. But whoever pointed out that they make all their money off alcohol sales is probably right.

Quick question though. Which one has the phazon system, the guvernment or kool house?


Posted by discojoe on Feb-16-2003 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
I'm with Durafei. I go there maybe once every three months, I think I can handle the crowds for one night. I have been to enough parties to be able to deal with it. I know that it is annoying to not have room to dance but that only happens for a specific persiod of time like between 3 and 5 and the rest is not that horrible.


true but thats the time period when the guest dj is on, when the music is at a climax and when you most want to dance. But its a valid point none the less.


Posted by LKD on Feb-16-2003 19:44:

i need space to dance...the only place i get enough space is viva, up close to the dj booth... even the hage gaps in the crowd arent enough for me....


Posted by rabbitjoker on Feb-16-2003 22:11:

Re: Should The Guvernment lower capacity/raise ticket price?!?

quote:
Originally posted by TECHno addict
I am one of many who would much rather spend $20 to go to a party where i actually have room to dance, rather than be crammed and just stand and listen. My idea? - cut down capacity to 80% and double ticket price to $20. What do you guys think?


Do you know that people in England pay 20 pounds ($50) to see an act (mind you, the acts are usually amazing)?!?!?

I would rather pay $50 to $70 to see an act rather than have it be packed.

Guv - take my advice, raise the price to $50 per act and don't jam the place.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Feb-16-2003 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
I think the best solution would be to simply move Guvernment to Kool House. Even during Tiesto, it wasn't overpacked at all, that's how big it is.


I always get confused (becuase I'm usually in the orange room), but the place Tiesto was in was perfect. They should have had Corsten there.

Corsten (in whatever area he was in) was WAY too packed, and was a waste of my time, even though I had B&H goldlounge access.

The last Tiesto venue was fine - considering the crowd size - but if it's like Corsten - that would be horrible.


Posted by LKD on Feb-16-2003 22:25:

Re: Re: Should The Guvernment lower capacity/raise ticket price?!?

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Do you know that people in England pay 20 pounds ($50) to see an act (mind you, the acts are usually amazing)?!?!?

I would rather pay $50 to $70 to see an act rather than have it be packed.

Guv - take my advice, raise the price to $50 per act and don't jam the place.


and in england, cigarettes cosabout 4 pounds(9.83 dollars) for a pack of smokes...u think we should pay about 10 bucks for smokes too??

if u go to a mcdonalds over there, the face value of the prices are the same as the face value over here...the exchange hoever means something else....


i know severl people who didnt come for tiesto cos it was 30+ dollars which is alot for university/ college students to pay based on just part time wages....

its easier said than done...for fanatics like us TAs who wanna go for so many events, if they were to charge so much, we would be able to party maybe only 4 times a year.


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