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Did you know that the French fought and killed Americans in WW2?

When The United States first invaded North Africa the French fought the Americans for about 3-4 days killing over 1000 Americans. The French had made an agrement with Hitler to maintain control over southern France as long as they defended it from invasion. The United States invading North Africa was seen as an invasion. An invasion that was meant to liberate France.

Did you know that the American 40th Regiment of Foot killed hundreds of French soldiers in the War of Austrian Succession between 1744 and 1748?

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Originally posted by Renegade Did you know that the American 40th Regiment of Foot killed hundreds of French soldiers in the War of Austrian Succession between 1744 and 1748?

Well said Renegade

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Originally posted by Renegade Did you know that the American 40th Regiment of Foot killed hundreds of French soldiers in the War of Austrian Succession between 1744 and 1748?

That's funny since America as a country didn't exist until 1776.

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Originally posted by occrider That's funny since America as a country didn't exist until 1776.

ya i was just going to point that out... hehe... did you mean 1844-1846? btw whats the history and story behind the the war of austrian succession?

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Originally posted by occrider That's funny since America as a country didn't exist until 1776.

I think you'll find, actually, that America did exist prior to 1776, even if the "United States of America" did not. The land mass was called America (just like the continents are still called North and South America today - clever eh?) and the colonies that existed there were called - you guessed it - American colonies. I can only presume that people who lived in these American colonies on the continent of America were called "Americans".

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ya i was just going to point that out... hehe... did you mean 1844-1846? btw whats the history and story behind the the war of austrian succession?

As usual, Izzy, my dates were spot on.

Well actually, on further research, the war of Austrian Succession lasted from 1740 - 1748, and I was actually referring to the 2nd Silesian war (which was one part of the war of Austrian Succession) which did begin in 1744.

It was basically just lots of countries fighting over the right to rule over Austria once Charles VI was succeeded by the Austrian Archduchess:

http://www.bartleby.com/65/au/AustrianSuc.html

In all honesty, though, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Re: Did you know that the French fought and killed Americans in WW2?

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen When The United States first invaded North Africa the French fought the Americans for about 3-4 days killing over 1000 Americans. The French had made an agrement with Hitler to maintain control over southern France as long as they defended it from invasion. The United States invading North Africa was seen as an invasion. An invasion that was meant to liberate France.

Well said FuzzyGreen

>JM<

Why are we bring up old wars to date and compare to what the French did and what we did to them back then just because they refuse to help the US now ? ? ...

Mmmm then the British shouldnt help the US just because The US and yes, the FRENCH and GERMANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELPED THE USA GET THEIR OWN INDEPENDENCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! So look at that also .. and because, they bit the crap out of Britain.. Does that COUNT also ?

Bah Fucking war of Fucking Austrian Succession
Had to write a paper about it for university so here are some facts:

Charles IV dies.
No male successor
Maria Theresia, his daughter is ready
Spain, Prussia, Russia etc. don't agree and fight
compromise reached in 1948, Austria loses territory in Slesia (today's Poland)
Austria and Prussia share a deeeep hatred
Austria's Hapsburg monarchy thinks about revenge and its foreign minister, Kaunitz, has the great idea of the [s]reversment des alliances[/s] meaning that all previous alliances are somewhat flipped, since Maria T. thought this was the only way the reconquering of Slesia could be achieved.
France became a good friend, a big FUCK OFF to Britain and a neutral relationship with Russia.
Frederick 2, the Prussian King smells what's going on and, wohooo (*points to Bush*) attacks Austria in an pre-emptive strike!
Although no1 really defeats the other, Frederick is now seen as the big European hero, the Underdog who successfully managed to defend himself against the superpower of the Hapsburgs
The french by the way, didn't really support Austria when it needed them, nor did the Russians whose new Czar (some chick, karolina or something) had the hots for Frederick (she fancied him)
Anyway, Austria finally accepted the loss of Slesia and tried other tricks, such as negotiating peace between Ottomans and Russians in order to receive Russian gifts to compensate the Polish loss
Later Austria Prussia dn Russia suddenly cooperate for their own egoistic needs...and share Poland. They just take that country and share it among themselves.

and it goes on and on and on..
Donno but I always find such things fascinating as they show us parallel's to today's world, or simply the inherent dirty nature of politics..no matter where

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Originally posted by Renegade Did you know that the American 40th Regiment of Foot killed hundreds of French soldiers in the War of Austrian Succession between 1744 and 1748?

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Well said Renegade

hmm...

so i take this as. over 1000 die, but the Americans are still wrong because they killed hundreds 200 years earlier - in a non world war?



little brother complex?


ok, so i dont want to resort to child like bickering, but at the same time, anyone from nation x has prolly killed someone from nation y. all this taking sides and getting patriotic is good sometimes, but its turing into a friggin kindergarten fight, everywhere - macro and micro.

maybe Bush and Chretin(sp?) should just goto the nap room and pull hair until someone is right...

The occupied french government that attacked the american troops was not the real french government but a german-installed puppet-government. The real french government was at that time located in London, together with the remains of its military forces which remained faithful and intact.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 The occupied french government that attacked the american troops was not the real french government but a german-installed puppet-government. The real french government was at that time located in London, together with the remains of its military forces which remained faithful and intact.

amen on that Tit0

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Originally posted by Renegade I think you'll find, actually, that America did exist prior to 1776, even if the "United States of America" did not. The land mass was called America (just like the continents are still called North and South America today - clever eh?) and the colonies that existed there were called - you guessed it - American colonies. I can only presume that people who lived in these American colonies on the continent of America were called "Americans".

Well of course America existed before 1776, the colonies have been in existence since the 1600's or something like that. The point is howerver is that they were British colonies that were under British control. It's not like the governor of yorktown sat down for morning tea one day and all of a sudden decided to send troops to fight in the war of Austrian secession. What probably happened is that the brits conscripted people from these colonies to fight for them. Your statement which implies that America, as a country, sent troops to fight the French is false. That's like saying that Poland and Russia fought against America in WW2 because the Germans force conscripted some people to fight for them. Technically, it's true but for the sake of the argument, it's false.

u all now the americans killed millions of innocent people
FUCK WAR

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen When The United States first invaded North Africa the French fought the Americans for about 3-4 days killing over 1000 Americans. The French had made an agrement with Hitler to maintain control over southern France as long as they defended it from invasion. The United States invading North Africa was seen as an invasion. An invasion that was meant to liberate France.

congratulations youve acknowledged that people die in wars, better tell your president quick!

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Originally posted by arj1o1 u all now the americans killed millions of innocent people FUCK WAR

Ok that statement was 1% intelligible and 99% pointless.

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Originally posted by occrider Ok that statement was 1% intelligible and 99% pointless.

and 100% true

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Originally posted by biznology hmm... so i take this as. over 1000 die, but the Americans are still wrong because they killed hundreds 200 years earlier - in a non world war?

No, not at all.

By bringing the war of Austrian Succession I was merely pointing out that you can selectively look at history to support your case, regardless of what that case may be. I brought up the fact that Americans killed French soldiers in the 1740's as an irrelevent rebuttal to an irrelevant topic.

My tongue was firmly in my cheek, I can assure you.

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Originally posted by arj1o1 and 100% true

Ok and the Dutch have been going around sleeping with their sisters and their mothers over the past couple centuries resulting in their abnormal almost abysmal intelligence today which can be seen by their attempts to communicate on forums.

I can go around posting retarded, two line statements too. The challenge is to make a point and actually back it up though.

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Originally posted by occrider Ok and the Dutch have been going around sleeping with their sisters and their mothers over the past couple centuries resulting in their abnormal almost abysmal intelligence today which can be seen by their attempts to communicate on forums. I can go around posting retarded, two line statements too. The challenge is to make a point and actually back it up though.

hey!!!

You take that back

actually, the country that has probably killed most americans is.... AMERICA!!!
seeing the murder rate of it's disfunctional society, and the stunning record its forces have in friendly fire...

on the same level this stupid thread started from: did u know that the american airforce flatterend a whole city in switzerland in 1944? not only did a whole squadron hit the wrong target, or the wrong city, but the whole bloody country!!!!

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Originally posted by arj1o1 and 100% true

sorry...u belong in the humor room where u can post random crap in there all day without requiring much intelligence

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Originally posted by Blik hey!!! You take that back

Sorry no offense to you Blik or anybody else from Holland. I'm just making the point that if he can post bullshit about my country committing what amounts to a holocaust then I can post bullshit about his country.

The message I'm trying to convey is DON'T POST BULLSHIT.

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Originally posted by occrider Sorry no offense to you Blik or anybody else from Holland. I'm just making the point that if he can post bullshit about my country committing what amounts to a holocaust then I can post bullshit about his country. The message I'm trying to convey is DON'T POST BULLSHIT.

WHO ARE YOU?
The United States has killed thousands of innocent civilians. You don't think that the muslims in the middle east just hate us because they are pure evil?
The United States is constantly bombing targets in the No Fly zone in Iraq. There have been numerous times when they "missed" their target and killed innocent civilians. Not to mention during the Gulf War we killed tons of civilians by accident, and also abandoned the iraqi people to whom we told we were trying to "liberate."
And remeber just a few years ago when the whole Monica Lewinsky thing was going on. On the day of her testimony, Clinton decided to change the media attention and declared a "war on terror" and ended up firing missles at numerous targets including a phamaceutical factory killing some janitors.
The list of times goes on and on. Just look at Vietnam.
Just do a little research and you will see, America is no wonderful "good" country. The "evilness" goes all around.


Oh and on the thing on the French killing Americans in WWII.
Yes I did know that. Vichy france was a puppet government set up by the Nazis. The real French government w as in London at the time.
Don't use that as an excuse to berate the French for not supporting our soon to be war with Iraq.
It's sad. It seems this country is just going further and further down the crapper. I remember hearing a news story where some senators were calling for legislation to boycott french and german food because they don't support us.
All this ignorance and pride reminds me of the state of mind of people in Germany during WW2 or the people in Germany, France and Britian before WW1

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Originally posted by montie WHO ARE YOU? The United States has killed thousands of innocent civilians. You don't think that the muslims in the middle east just hate us because they are pure evil? The United States is constantly bombing targets in the No Fly zone in Iraq. There have been numerous times when they "missed" their target and killed innocent civilians. Not to mention during the Gulf War we killed tons of civilians by accident, and also abandoned the iraqi people to whom we told we were trying to "liberate." And remeber just a few years ago when the whole Monica Lewinsky thing was going on. On the day of her testimony, Clinton decided to change the media attention and declared a "war on terror" and ended up firing missles at numerous targets including a phamaceutical factory killing some janitors. The list of times goes on and on. Just look at Vietnam. Just do a little research and you will see, America is no wonderful "good" country. The "evilness" goes all around. Oh and on the thing on the French killing Americans in WWII. Yes I did know that. Vichy france was a puppet government set up by the Nazis. The real French government w as in London at the time. Don't use that as an excuse to berate the French for not supporting our soon to be war with Iraq. It's sad. It seems this country is just going further and further down the crapper. I remember hearing a news story where some senators were calling for legislation to boycott french and german food because they don't support us. All this ignorance and pride reminds me of the state of mind of people in Germany during WW2 or the people in Germany, France and Britian before WW1

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Originally posted by montie WHO ARE YOU? The United States has killed thousands of innocent civilians. You don't think that the muslims in the middle east just hate us because they are pure evil? The United States is constantly bombing targets in the No Fly zone in Iraq. There have been numerous times when they "missed" their target and killed innocent civilians. Not to mention during the Gulf War we killed tons of civilians by accident, and also abandoned the iraqi people to whom we told we were trying to "liberate." And remeber just a few years ago when the whole Monica Lewinsky thing was going on. On the day of her testimony, Clinton decided to change the media attention and declared a "war on terror" and ended up firing missles at numerous targets including a phamaceutical factory killing some janitors. The list of times goes on and on. Just look at Vietnam. Just do a little research and you will see, America is no wonderful "good" country. The "evilness" goes all around.

And who the hell are you guy? This is the first posting I've seen of you in this forum. I don't dispute the fact that America has killed many innocent civilians. Much as I'm sure that a LOT of other countries have killed numerous innocent civilians over the past century as well. Except in your isolated eggshell the ONLY evildoer you see is the United States. Grow up. Oh so we purposely "missed" targets in bombing Iraqi air defense systems shooting at planes in the no fly zone??? Please tell me, what POSSIBLE beneficial result can come of us bombing innocent civilians???? I'll be waiting for your answer smart guy. In today's media where every single iota of collateral damage is analyzed and critisized, you think we would go out and kill inoccent civilians for our own fucking amusement???? What's your source, the Iraqi tribune?? USE LOGIC AND THINK THIS THROUGH. With regards to Monica Lewinsky and Clinton's attack on Sudan, why don't you present credible news sources and DO THE RESEARCH yourself to prove your point that the attack was COMPLETELY unrelated to the embassy bombings and was solely to divert world attention from the news scandal. Finally in no way did I PRETEND the US was innocent of any wrongdoing in this world. However I resent the remark that we killed "millions" of innocent civilians. If you're going to say something that's flat out stupid you might as well say nothing at all because you're exposing your own ignorance. Oh and examine the US's actions in Vietnam???? Ok fine and while you're at it why don't you examine "peace loving" France's role in Indochina in the 50's. Jesus christ people weren't NEARLY so goody goody with France when they were conducting nuclear tests by Australia in the 90's. Instead of giving me your diatribe of crap why don't you READ what I've said in the past and make intelligent conversation with me that actually APPLIES to me. I'm pissed, I'm semi-drunk, and now I'm gonna see armin. Hopefully I'll have something interesting to read in the mornging

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