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Posted by Rostros on Feb-21-2003 08:29:

Google is a privacy time bomb. TOP THINGS YOU NEVER KNEW !

1. Google's immortal cookie:
Google was the first search engine to use a cookie that expires in 2038. This was at a time when federal websites were prohibited from using persistent cookies altogether. Now it's years later, and immortal cookies are commonplace among search engines; Google set the standard because no one bothered to challenge them. This cookie places a unique ID number on your hard disk. Anytime you land on a Google page, you get a Google cookie if you don't already have one. If you have one, they read and record your unique ID number.

2. Google records everything they can:
For all searches they record the cookie ID, your Internet IP address, the time and date, your search terms, and your browser configuration. Increasingly, Google is customizing results based on your IP number. This is referred to in the industry as "IP delivery based on geolocation."

3. Google retains all data indefinitely:
Google has no data retention policies. There is evidence that they are able to easily access all the user information they collect and save.

4. Google won't say why they need this data:
Inquiries to Google about their privacy policies are ignored. When the New York Times (2002-11-28) asked Sergey Brin about whether Google ever gets subpoenaed for this information, he had no comment.

5. Google hires spooks:
Matt Cutts, a key Google engineer, used to work for the National Security Agency. Google wants to hire more people with security clearances, so that they can peddle their corporate assets to the spooks in Washington.

6. Google's toolbar is spyware:
With the advanced features enabled, Google's free toolbar for Explorer phones home with every page you surf. Yes, it reads your cookie too, and sends along the last search terms you used in the toolbar. Their privacy policy confesses this, but that's only because Alexa lost a class-action lawsuit when their toolbar did the same thing, and their privacy policy failed to explain this. Worse yet, Google's toolbar updates to new versions quietly, and without asking. This means that if you have the toolbar installed, Google essentially has complete access to your hard disk every time you phone home. Most software vendors, and even Microsoft, ask if you'd like an updated version. But not Google.

7. Google's cache copy is illegal:
Judging from Ninth Circuit precedent on the application of U.S. copyright laws to the Internet, Google's cache copy appears to be illegal. The only way a webmaster can avoid having his site cached on Google is to put a "noarchive" meta in the header of every page on his site. Surfers like the cache, but webmasters don't. Many webmasters have deleted questionable material from their sites, only to discover later that the problem pages live merrily on in Google's cache. The cache copy should be "opt-in" for webmasters, not "opt-out."

8. Google is not your friend:
Young, stupid script kiddies and many bloggers still think Google is "way kool," so by now Google enjoys a 75 percent monopoly for all external referrals to most websites. No webmaster can avoid seeking Google's approval these days, assuming he wants to increase traffic to his site. If he tries to take advantage of some of the known weaknesses in Google's semi-secret algorithms, he may find himself penalized by Google, and his traffic disappears. There are no detailed, published standards issued by Google, and there is no appeal process for penalized sites. Google is completely unaccountable. Most of the time they don't even answer email from webmasters.

9. Google is a privacy time bomb:
With 150 million searches per day, most from outside the U.S., Google amounts to a privacy disaster waiting to happen. Those newly-commissioned data-mining bureaucrats in Washington can only dream about the sort of slick efficiency that Google has already achieved. Google deserves your nomination for corporate Big Brother of the Year.


Posted by blazed it on Feb-21-2003 08:55:

i wonder if this is for real....


hope its not true but i dunno.


Posted by Tranzmit on Feb-21-2003 08:55:

Au contraire i find google perfect as a search engine. I love the way it cache's information which allows me to read the stuff that web sites decide to pull down rather quickly containing sensitive information.

This blurb looks like it was written by a paranoid person who's terrified of how easy it is to find information using this advanced search engine

Honestly that was pretty lame


Posted by Magimaster on Feb-21-2003 09:36:

While I'm not overly concerned, I'm going to tuck this info safely in the back of my head somewhere, to pop up at the most inconvenient time.


Posted by Spad on Feb-21-2003 12:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranzmit
Au contraire i find google perfect as a search engine. I love the way it cache's information which allows me to read the stuff that web sites decide to pull down rather quickly containing sensitive information.

This blurb looks like it was written by a paranoid person who's terrified of how easy it is to find information using this advanced search engine

Honestly that was pretty lame


Yep . The same thing annoys me with the "Microsoft are secretly scanning your PC for personal information" people.

#1. Why would they want to? You're not important, they don't give two shits about you.

#2. Even if they are, what are they really going to do with this information? So google know my IP Address..OMG!! So does Swamper.


Posted by mos man on Feb-21-2003 12:23:

Drunk

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
Yep . The same thing annoys me with the "Microsoft are secretly scanning your PC for personal information" people.

#1. Why would they want to? You're not important, they don't give two shits about you.

#2. Even if they are, what are they really going to do with this information? So google know my IP Address..OMG!! So does Swamper.


be afraid.. be very afraid !


Posted by Fir3start3r on Feb-21-2003 13:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
So does Swamper.


Why do I picture him wishing he had the ability to shut someone down like in the Cadbury commericial?
(Personally I vote for a remote slap button on my keyboard for some blokes)...omg...I said blokes...


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-21-2003 13:40:

Re: Google is a privacy time bomb. TOP THINGS YOU NEVER KNEW !

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RozzeR

2. Google records everything they can:
For all searches`your Internet IP address
Increasingly, Google is customizing results based on your IP number. This is referred to in the industry as "IP delivery based on geolocation."


Gee - I wonder how they track me afterwards when my IP changes every time I log off/log on...


Posted by Fir3start3r on Feb-21-2003 13:42:

Re: Re: Google is a privacy time bomb. TOP THINGS YOU NEVER KNEW !

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Gee - I wonder how they track me afterwards when my IP changes every time I log off/log on...


ewwww.....you're on dial up?

I can't even image going back to that...


Posted by CygnusX on Feb-21-2003 14:21:

Re: Re: Re: Google is a privacy time bomb. TOP THINGS YOU NEVER KNEW !

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
ewwww.....you're on dial up?

I can't even image going back to that...


I'm on ADSL and my ip is different everytime I logon


Posted by irishclubbing on Feb-21-2003 14:43:

Hmm interesting topic. I always use google as my first choice search engine. Mite have to think again about that. Can anyone confirm this information ?


Posted by CygnusX on Feb-21-2003 14:45:

quote:
Originally posted by theb
Hmm interesting topic. I always use google as my first choice search engine. Mite have to think again about that. Can anyone confirm this information ?


Don't worry I'd say. Google is one of the best things that ever happened to the internet!


Posted by Paula on Feb-21-2003 14:51:

Definitely- don't worry. Unless you're trafficking drugs or running an illegal kiddie porn ring, or something extremely illegal then dont worry. Google is just there. It's not some huge monster that will kill you in your sleep.
Like someone said before- Paranoia

~~Paula~~


Posted by k.k.d. on Feb-21-2003 15:28:

sounds as complete bs.. And even if it was real, why would we care?


Posted by BigDil on Feb-21-2003 15:35:

Re: Google is a privacy time bomb. TOP THINGS YOU NEVER KNEW !

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RozzeR
[...]150 million searches per day [...]


wow!


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Feb-21-2003 15:50:

So what??? Nothing about the way google handles their information is that *unusual* per-say.. Most *websites* keep logs of everyone that visits there site for a period of time, its no wonder google does the same. All that information is nothing google 'hides' or tries to make unavailable, its just been twisted to look like 'big brotherism'... you can do this with anything.


Posted by whiskers on Feb-21-2003 21:47:

that's why i use yahoo

besides, can't we just delete the damn cookies?


Posted by Tranex02 on Feb-21-2003 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
besides, can't we just delete the damn cookies?


that's what i was thinking...

for those of u who want an alternative to google, try: www.dogpile.com ....it might not be as good as google...but i use it alot!

i was also wondering......what kind of name is Google????


Posted by Arbiter on Feb-21-2003 22:15:

Interesting...

lets do some math with this one.

Lets see, if they're storing that much information about every seach, it's going to take at least 1 kb of storage per search. 150 million seaches a day = 150 million kb of information per day, which is 150 GB.

If that's all true, then, Google has to be collecting almost 60 Terabytes of information every year. That's pretty wild. It's hard to imagine that its economically efficient for them to store all that information permanently when the gains they are receiving from it are questionable.


Posted by Tranex02 on Feb-21-2003 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Interesting...


hey Arbiter.....what's up with changing ur flag everyday????


Posted by wayfinder on Feb-21-2003 22:28:

as to what kind of name google is, there's

a) the number googol, which is a 1 and a hundred zeros
b) yahoo's ex-boss mike koogle


Posted by igottaknow on Feb-21-2003 22:29:

i'll show u my google cookie if u promise not 2 eat it.

PREF
ID=4103e99db9e88e2c:
TM=1039827945:
LM=1039527945:
S=NgGXs6zKwdiQOU5n
google.com/
1936
2618878336
32111634
170797456
29529914
iamsatanursoulismine*


Posted by Muff2K on Feb-21-2003 23:35:

wow. good to know all this info about the trusted google. i think i'll be using this search engine from now on instead

http://www.googirl.com.ar


Posted by KilldaDJ on Feb-21-2003 23:51:

Smoking ..umm..something

meh, google can kiss my arse
never use it anyway


Posted by netw3rkd on Feb-21-2003 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
i'll show u my google cookie if u promise not 2 eat it.

PREF
ID=4103e99db9e88e2c:
TM=1039827945:
LM=1039527945:
S=NgGXs6zKwdiQOU5n
google.com/
1936
2618878336
32111634
170797456
29529914
iamsatanursoulismine*



I'll give you my cookie if you gimme yours.

PREF
ID=4823991b67c849e7:
TM=1045275532:
LM=1045275532:
S=LzViNLZIY_34kFYC
google.com/
3584
2618878336
32111634
2496287296
29545624
*


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