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Posted by B_K on Feb-27-2003 09:03:

First time on PA system

I'm playing friday for the first time on a pretty big sound system and was wondering if anyone had any tips on techniques for mixing through a loud ass system, or is it any different?. Whats the best way to bring in and cut the bass,(using channel mixing of course) and is it any different than at home in terms of fading out the other track quicker or sooner. I'm playing house anthems and progressing from there.

Gee, i think i'm just gettin nervous

Hope someone can suggest something?

Posted by Arsalan on Feb-27-2003 09:15:

i cant help you with your problem because i never got the chance to spin in a club or a "big" system but all i can say is Good Luck!

tell us about it later ;d

Posted by Tony Morello on Feb-27-2003 18:52:

it's the same as playing at home
just a shitload louder

make sure you have a decent set of cans

the system i played on had 2 jbl eons right in my ears
it was so easy to mix

crank your home system as loud as it will go and spin a set
just to get used to the loudness

and you'll find that your records sound awesome on a big system
at least mine did (i play hard house/hard nrg though)
nice rich deep basslines... *drool*

i thought i was going to blow a couple subs or something

Posted by Phu on Feb-27-2003 20:33:

All i have to say is when your mixing at a club or a rave its the same as your mixing at home but you'll get into it more and it feels better because u got a big crowd to play for.

Posted by quddha on Feb-27-2003 21:14:

so much volume under your fingertips. muhahahaha
its really amazing. but really damn loud. never had my headphone volume that high before.

Posted by Dj Flesch on Feb-27-2003 23:06:

Two things to keep in mind. One, it will be less noticable when you make mistakes because of the volume, and two make sure you keep your headphone volume at one level all night. Otherwise you'll end up deaf as you keep cranking it up as your ears get used to the loudness.

Posted by Tony Morello on Feb-28-2003 02:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Flesch
Two things to keep in mind. One, it will be less noticable when you make mistakes because of the volume, and two make sure you keep your headphone volume at one level all night. Otherwise you'll end up deaf as you keep cranking it up as your ears get used to the loudness.

yea, it's almost like cheating
the basslines starting to drift won't be as noticable on a big system than at home
as long as your monitors are alright you'll be able to catch any slips before anyone in the audience notices

Posted by Phu on Feb-28-2003 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Flesch
Two things to keep in mind. One, it will be less noticable when you make mistakes because of the volume, and two make sure you keep your headphone volume at one level all night. Otherwise you'll end up deaf as you keep cranking it up as your ears get used to the loudness.
This is very true about making mistakes on a loud stereo because last night i made a few mistakes and my buddy said i can't even hear the mistake.

Posted by B_K on Feb-28-2003 06:26:

Well i figured i was just gettin' worked up over nothing. Just have a good monitor nearby i suppose. But now i'm finding out that i got to use an allen & heath scratch mixer. The lo, mid, and high cut switches are fader bars. Hope that won't be a problem

Anyway, thanx for the suggestions. I'll let you all know how it goes, well, at least tell others who haven't done it before what i learned

Posted by Arsalan on Feb-28-2003 07:36:

I want to play in a club!!

Posted by Luke Terry on Feb-28-2003 09:58:

if you don't already, mix 1 ear on - 1 ear off. that way the volume stays even lower in your headphones + u look cooler lol

Posted by B_K on Mar-01-2003 22:37:

Well, it all went quite well. SO LOUD HOLY SHIT. There were 3 yorkville subs beneath me each about 1000 watts. A completely fluent mix almost sounds like its off a bit just cause of the bass vibrations. But i was told i was pretty close to flawless. DJ Flesch,you were definately right about increasing the headphone volume. Halfway through my set, i realized the volume was up almost double then when i started, not good. So i just had to bring it down and struggle a bit at first, but then got re-adjusted.

Anyone who hasn't played in a club setting before, do it if you can. It'll make you a better dj for sure.

Posted by Kid Lax on Mar-03-2003 00:16:

a djs worst enemy is shitty monitors

i like them right beside me pointed towards my head (sounds the same if they're on the ground on an upward angle, or if they're on a stand)

i can't stand when the monitors are above my head (like attached to the ceiling or something)

Posted by DjTasper on Mar-03-2003 04:55:

i played out this weekend and one thing i noticed is that when i cut the bass and brought in a new bass line at the same time i had to fuck with the Eqs because it was always to overpowering and might sound like shit.