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why are some artist albums mixed together???

does anyone have a clue, why is it? i really don't get it!

i understand dj mixed albums which consist of tracks by different artists that are mixed! but what the fuck for would you mix an artist album?

bt - rare & remixed
for example is one of these albums and paul van dyk albums are mixed too! that sucks! they are totally worthless because of this! i really hate it!

Re: why are some artist albums mixed together???

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Originally posted by skip ... they are totally worthless because of this! ...

That probably the point!!!

Now you still have to buy the singles and vinyls.

Grtz

I'm feeling quite the opposite - why are most albums not mixed together?

To me an album is something else than 12 radio edits chucked together. That's not an album - it's a bunch of tracks on 1 disc.
That's why I've always loved BT & Junkie XL albums... they take you on a journey and the tunes tell you a story.

The albums are not meant for DJ's. They're for the home listeners.

I feel the same way as Mr. Mystery. I am at a point where if it not mixed, I dont like listening to it. for the most part, if you were to buy the vinyl counterpart to those albums, the vinyl is still unmixed and in Skip's terms.. not "totally worthless".

For instance, I got the global dvd to watch and to listen to his recreation and mix of his trax of the last 10 yrs, not to spin the tracks i didnt have. Plus, you could still spin them (judgeing from the PvD cuz that is the only one of the artists i have heard), just dont let the tracks go all the way to the end!

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I'm feeling quite the opposite - why are most albums not mixed together? To me an album is something else than 12 radio edits chucked together. That's not an album - it's a bunch of tracks on 1 disc. That's why I've always loved BT & Junkie XL albums... they take you on a journey and the tunes tell you a story. The albums are not meant for DJ's. They're for the home listeners.

Werd

I like it when there are two versions available for sale. A mixed version and a separate tracks version.

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Originally posted by Mel David I like it when there are two versions available for sale. A mixed version and a separate tracks version.

Yeh I agree...

I think it should be like this, so then you have the choice. From this, they can take the sales figure and look at which sells better. At least then they would know what the public want rather than giving us something which is just ok.

lateRZ,

barryfigiel

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I'm feeling quite the opposite - why are most albums not mixed together? To me an album is something else than 12 radio edits chucked together. That's not an album - it's a bunch of tracks on 1 disc. That's why I've always loved BT & Junkie XL albums... they take you on a journey and the tunes tell you a story. The albums are not meant for DJ's. They're for the home listeners.

have you listened to bt's rare & remixed? that album is mixed like shit, the tracks are kind of mixed, but then again not! there are breaks between the tracks and it's just totally weird imo!

if i'm listening to an album that isn't mixed together, my journey won't be interrupted by breaks between tracks, not at all. but for each their own i guess!

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Originally posted by skip have you listened to bt's rare & remixed? that album is mixed like shit, the tracks are kind of mixed, but then again not! there are breaks between the tracks and it's just totally weird imo! if i'm listening to an album that isn't mixed together, my journey won't be interrupted by breaks between tracks, not at all. but for each their own i guess!

it sounds fine too me =\

in my memory by tiesto was good, 10 tracks (roughly) to their entirity and unmixed and also a bonus disc of all the remixes.

if cds should be mixed albuims then so should vinyl, so you buy the singles. its such a load of shti having them mixed, thats for mix comps.

Aand what happens if you want to listen to ONE track and not the whole cd?! you then have to listen to a mixed intro and outro to a track, which is gay. some tracks you are meant to hear the intro and outro to the fullest.

the only exception to this are chicane albums! some fo the ambient tracks are belended together and the rest not, which is fine imo.

To me it's kinda like yes and no. Some albums i like more when mixed and then again some not. Like Oliver Lieb's LSG albums are great when mixed, but of a few BT albums, i'd like to have unmixed versions.

You are not the artist, so if the artist wants to release an album that has a part of it is mixed and people will buy it then the artist has every right. If you don't like it then go buy the 3X12" unmixed album or buy the maxicd's. If you don't like it then don't buy it and find something else to spend yer money on.

I like mixed albums. They seem to have a better flow than if the tracks are seperate.

Re: why are some artist albums mixed together???

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Originally posted by skip does anyone have a clue, why is it? i really don't get it! i understand dj mixed albums which consist of tracks by different artists that are mixed! but what the fuck for would you mix an artist album? bt - rare & remixed for example is one of these albums and paul van dyk albums are mixed too! that sucks! they are totally worthless because of this! i really hate it!

Your just a bloddy idiot!

the tracks on the album they are advertising are meant to be mixed by the dj anyway.
people who aren't dj's who buy the album want to listen to the songs.
most don't want to listen to the boring intros and outros with just the beat.
and i don't like listening to the radio edits because the song is shortened and even more is cut out than when it is mixed into different tracks.
you should be able to decide whether to buy the track or not on vinyl even if you aren't able to hear the intro beat and outro beat.
besides its nicer when the tracks are mixed together because the cd flows better and there are no breaks (considering it was mixed properly)

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Originally posted by Mel David I like it when there are two versions available for sale. A mixed version and a separate tracks version.

well said. or you could just go buy all the singles from a mixed cd and burn them onto one cd.....hehe

i personally prefer unmixed....but thats just a poersonal preference...2 versions would be nice actually

can someone tell me one of which every track has been released as a single or maxi??

and i usually don't like to listen to a whole album at one go. i usually pick out the tracks that i like to hear and burn my own compilation! i just think that it's totally pointless to mix an artist album!

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Originally posted by skip i just think that it's totally pointless to mix an artist album!

Why? Because you don't like it?

What's the point in making an album if people only take away their favourite tracks from it and ignore the rest? That's what pop albums are for.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Why? Because you don't like it? What's the point in making an album if people only take away their favourite tracks from it and ignore the rest? That's what pop albums are for.

Completely agree with you!
One track is not enough to tell the listeners everything the author wanted to. Some tunes are made just for intro/outro sound, just maybe for you to get into a new atmosphere.
You can always get 12" or CDMaxi to play them live

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Why? Because you don't like it? What's the point in making an album if people only take away their favourite tracks from it and ignore the rest? That's what pop albums are for.

because you kind of have to listen to the whole album as a whole and that in my opinion is stupid.
if you have an unmixed album you can still listen it as a whole and you can listen it in pieces too, you can listen a track here and there and you don't have to listen to the album in the same order as it is originally!

if i want a mixed cd, then i'll go buy for example
"dj ti�sto - magik 6"
and the tracks flow much nicer together on there than on for example bt's rare & remixed!

i just think that they are two different kinds of cds. i think that artist albums sound better and are a lot more useful if they aren't mixed. and dj mixed compilations are there to take you on a journey!


IMHO!

You're right in some way...
I own Satoshi Tomiie's GU Nubreed 006 as 3x12 and Sasha - Airdrawndagger 3x12 unmixed. But the problem is - you get very few tunes... 2 CDs are not 6 tracks, right?

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Originally posted by skip if i want a mixed cd, then i'll go buy for example "dj ti�sto - magik 6"

...but it's not an ARTIST album... it's a compilation.

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and the tracks flow much nicer together on there than on for example bt's rare & remixed!

Yes, well, I kinda agree with that one - if you put out a collection of rarities and stuff it should be unmixed.

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i just think that they are two different kinds of cds. i think that artist albums sound better and are a lot more useful if they aren't mixed. and dj mixed compilations are there to take you on a journey!

Yes and no - in the trance scene most albums are just compilations of the vinyls the artists have put out and not "real" albums.
But in some genres people actually think of a THEME for an album and do the album first... only then they do single mixes of the tracks.
To me it's not essential for an album to be mixed (good examples: Rank 1's, Tiesto's and Airwave's albums) but often it makes the album sound a hell of a lot more pro and it gives you the impression that the artist has really struggled to think of themes and such rather than just chugging all his latest tunes on a disc.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery ...but it's not an ARTIST album... it's a compilation.

yep! that was what i was trying to say! i'll go get a dj mixed compilation if i want a mixed cd and not an artist album! dj mixed compilations usually have less restrictions than artist albums, so the "journey" will probably be nicer, if you get the point!


this topic really came about when i was just SO pissed off to find out that bt's rare & remixed was mixed, because it has so many great tracks (for example one of my alltime favorites "bt feat. jan johnson - sunblind"). and i just like to listen to the tracks maybe differently than you! i like them be to long and full from the beginnig to the end, every beat.

but i understand your point, like i said we just listen music slightly different!

peace!

Me too I prefer mixed albums over unmixed... Mixing give them the touch of personality

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