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Posted by Durafei on Mar-08-2003 16:20:

Armin Talks about DJ Bashing !!!!

Interview courtesy of Trance.nu
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quote:

Helen: ...So how would you compare your own sound with other djs.?

Armin: Well i dont watch alot of other djs. To be honest, i haven�t heard another
dj set in its entirety over the past 3 years. I mean, ive heard the beginning of a Tiesto
set and the end of a Ferry set.....Ive never stayed on stage. I mean, ive heard half of Tenaglia's set at Space, Miami. I think that was 5hrs....and that is the longest ive heard Dj's, and other dj sets.You know, its just......I try to stay as uninfluenced as possible....and sometimes its really hard. One thing that strikes me the most is that my fans and the trance genre in general. Such as Trance.nu and Tranceaddict.com...the are nice people in general. Where as you go over to the GlobalUnderground website....Those guys....
They are all slapping you in the face. Its unbelievable!! (laughs and raises voice)

You should know that we Dj's talk amongst each other and i know i have the benefit of the doubt of the audience at the moment....but Tiesto has been hit in the face over the past few years..so hard ... and i think it is totally undeserved you know. Its the same for us djs....Its just like you guys. We are constantly trying to involve and trying to surprise you guys....and the audience, and with the message boards. You sometimes hear from others that they are not really fond of your productions. So your an asshole (laughs) That you made dust.wav and so on. So sometimes for us its really hard to cope with that,cause you know, when im in the studio its really hard you know....

If you go....you probably...like say both of you probably have produced yourselves, or try
to produce ..


Comments?


Posted by Haak on Mar-08-2003 16:30:

he's an asshole :P


Posted by burns on Mar-08-2003 16:34:

Af for message boards he got that right. Over the global undergorund board its like a contest, people love putting them selves above you and try to make out they know so much more than you, just because they met digweed for 7 and a half minutes and have played infront of more than 70 people.


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-08-2003 17:11:

Deejays are always bashed....and sometimes rightfully so. You go see certain deejays live and they suck and you think why did I see him. Tiesto has been bashed for the correct reasons because his mixing has suffered in recent months and fans that liked him since 1998 are fed up with half ass efforts but then again, most people who bash deejays normally end up going to see them live anyway. Most deejays realize that most critics on messageboards are not old enough to see them live anyway. True fans will also tell it like is but they will still not give up. Also no dj can be on form all the time, deejays like sports players have their good and bad days. Armin Van Buuren realizes it that it comes with the territory of being a deejay, you get slagged in the press and on messageboards but he is not suffering a lack of bookings, so I don't think he cares.


Posted by DennisF on Mar-08-2003 17:27:

ive never thought that djs take that comments from boards so serious. oh man. i think armin is a very sensitive guy. so stop bashing him ppls. i like armin alot and i dont want that hes under pressure when hes in the studio. this interview makes me really think about bashing djs and producers....


Posted by RangerT on Mar-08-2003 17:51:

Well, I expected somehow that DJs read such boards in secret. Everybody wants to know how his reputation and judgement is, so why not them? Additionally, DJing is art and artists are more depending on the public judgement and because of that they take it more serious then a fabric worker, right? Sometimes it is horrible disrespectful what some guys post and I can imagine, that hurts some DJs. So we as fans should show some respect towards that guys, even when we dont like their style. Then say that but take away all the bashing and blamings from your comments. Every human deserves respect but some seem to think the internet is without identity and they can play the strong and bash and slap people in the face where ever they find a possibility for it.


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-08-2003 18:18:

But I think they recognize the difference between he sucks....his set was awful..which they pay no attention to compared to his set was awful because of (insert decent reason here) and (insert decent reason here). Deejays love to hear opinions tho of their work, Sander Kleinenberg asked me what I thought of Nubreed 4 while he was signing my copy and I said that I hated the first half of cd 1 because I thought it was too deep, he said that lots of people like that but some did not like it but then I stated to him that cd 2 was amazing and happily stated why. I think deejays pay some attention to messageboards but I don't think they pay that much attention until they start to lose bookings. Same thing as politicians, they are hated by some and loved by others and every decision they make is taken apart by someone. But Armin realizes the following that you cannot please everyone!.


Posted by UWM on Mar-08-2003 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
Sander Kleinenberg asked me what I thought of Nubreed 4 while he was signing my copy and ...


This moment in your life must be the pinnacle of your existance, because you attempt to somehow include this in at least 45% of your posts.

Isn't the fact that he asked you 'while he was signing your copy' completely irrelevant?

*strokes ego*


Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-08-2003 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by uwmadtrance
This moment in your life must be the pinnacle of your existance, because you attempt to somehow include this in at least 45% of your posts.

Isn't the fact that he asked you 'while he was signing your copy' completely irrelevant?

*strokes ego*


*snicker*


Posted by Choobak on Mar-08-2003 19:16:

if you can't take criticism get out of showbusiness...

for every hater, there's 20 addicts... so people bash tiesto... he got voted number one.. someone must like him... damn stars should stop whining...


Posted by RangerT on Mar-08-2003 19:21:

There is a big difference between bashing and critism.


Posted by burns on Mar-08-2003 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by uwmadtrance
This moment in your life must be the pinnacle of your existance, because you attempt to somehow include this in at least 45% of your posts.

Isn't the fact that he asked you 'while he was signing your copy' completely irrelevant?

*strokes ego*


He must be from the global underground forum, hehe.


Posted by Choobak on Mar-08-2003 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by RangerT
There is a big difference between bashing and critism.


i disagee... bashing is a form of criticism... i understand if you're saying that simply saying someone sucks is different from saying someone sucks and saying why he or she sucks... but this is besides the point...

you're gonna get bashed.. stop whining...


Posted by Arsalan on Mar-08-2003 19:58:

LOL that is some funny stuff, this is why i respect ALL producers because eventhough you think the track is shit or "cheese", it's making some people happy at the same time.


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-08-2003 20:01:

stfu uwmadtrance

ima kick yo punkass for that!
I was pointing out that deejays want to know what you think of their works...and I mentioned it in .00005 of my posts. I have only met Luke Fair, Hybrid and Sander Kleinenberg. All have asked what I thought about their set, album or productions to prove my point that deejays like feedback.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Mar-08-2003 20:13:

King

its the music that counts


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Mar-08-2003 20:20:

But if you look at it another way...maybe all the bashing is what the industry needs. It pushes producers/DJs to try harder. Bashing is good to a certain extent but sometimes it does get out of hand.

It's nice to know that the producers/DJs take us, the listeners, comments to heart.


Posted by Trazedict on Mar-08-2003 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by uwmadtrance
This moment in your life must be the pinnacle of your existance, because you attempt to somehow include this in at least 45% of your posts.

Isn't the fact that he asked you 'while he was signing your copy' completely irrelevant?

*strokes ego*




AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-08-2003 20:27:

ima still kick his ass


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-08-2003 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by uwmadtrance
This moment in your life must be the pinnacle of your existance, because you attempt to somehow include this in at least 45% of your posts.

Isn't the fact that he asked you 'while he was signing your copy' completely irrelevant?

*strokes ego*


*Chuckles*


Posted by elena on Mar-08-2003 20:43:

pretty interesting interview.
armin comes off as sincere and somewhat ditzy..lots of (laughs) and umm i dont know, know what i mean typish vague phrases.
but fun to read otherwise.


Posted by UWM on Mar-08-2003 20:53:

Bring it, TTA.


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-08-2003 20:56:

no problem!


Posted by whiskers on Mar-08-2003 21:26:

i totally agree with armin. there's just too much bandwagon jumping and too little respect. i might not like what tiesto is playing or how he's mixing, but i'm not gonna call him a shithead because of it. i still have RESPECT for him, and he'll still be one of my top 3 all-time favorite djs.

one of the reasons i like trance, is because i can somewhat escape all the stuff about listening to certain stuff because it's popular to do so. i can listen to what i like without being influenced by others. but, with the amount of new people we're getting, it's impossible sometimes to shelter myself from all the commercializm that's going on. people don't look at the bigger picture anymore - one trainwreck, and they're calling a dj a wanker.

aren't we, the electronica fans, supposed to be some of the most understanding and open-minded music addicts? instead, we're the opposite of that, constantly forcing our opinions onto others.


my 0.02


Posted by zarathustra on Mar-08-2003 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by uwmadtrance
This moment in your life must be the pinnacle of your existance, because you attempt to somehow include this in at least 45% of your posts.

Isn't the fact that he asked you 'while he was signing your copy' completely irrelevant?

*strokes ego*


ROFLMAO


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