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Posted by R O C on Mar-10-2003 17:57:

Miami Mayor Trying to Cancel Ultra!!!

This is from the Miami Herald Online...

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/5355436.htm

Diaz tries to unplug show over drug fears
Promoters to meet mayor, consider suit
BY DAPHNE DURET
[email protected]

Miami Mayor Manny Diaz's last-minute bid to cancel a Bayfront Park festival scheduled for March 22 has pitted him against the promoters of the electronic music event expected to draw tens of thousands of people.

At a meeting scheduled for noon today, Diaz will ask Bayfront Park officials and event promoters to stop the fifth annual Ultra Electronic Music Festival.

If they can't reach an agreement with Diaz by the end of today's meeting, lawyers for Ultra say they will be forced to sue the city, especially since promoters have already spent more than $600,000 on the event and have another $1 million in contracts.

They have also sold thousands of tickets for $40 to $60 each and signed an agreement to produce live broadcasts at the event, promoters said.

If the festival goes on as scheduled, though, promoters expect such artists as Underworld, Paul Oakenfold, Sasha, John Digweed, Paul van Dyk, Hybrid and Seb Fountaine.

The event is scheduled to begin at 11 a.m. March 22 and end at 1 a.m. the next day.

The problem comes just two weeks before the event. Diaz's office cited concerns about possible widespread drug use as the reason to stop the event. Promoters said those concerns are unfounded. They said they only heard of the mayor's plan to cancel the event at a meeting Thursday at City Hall.

LAST YEAR'S EVENT

An aide to Diaz, his press secretary Kelly Penton, said her boss' concerns arose from reports of rampant drug use at last year's event, also at Bayfront Park. The mayor said many of the music fans would be minors.

Penton said Diaz began to worry when he learned a few weeks ago that the festival was returning. Penton said the mayor was aware of the festival because he had watched television footage of last year's event.

The footage was part of a larger television news report chronicling use of the drug Ecstasy at parties in South Florida, promoters and Diaz's office said.

But Ultra promoter Russell Faibisch called the broadcast misleading, saying that less than 10 percent of the footage came from video taken at last year's festival.

''Ultra is a music dance party that attracts upwards of 30,000 people,'' Diaz's office said in a written statement Sunday. ``At least half consume illegal drugs and a significant portion of participants are kids under the age of 18.''

Diaz's office did not provide the basis for those statistics. But Penton referred calls to Miami Detective Eladio Paez for corroboration.

Paez said he was a 21-year veteran of the Miami Police Department, adding that he has specialized in narcotics-use trends for the past 18 years.

He estimated that more than half of those who attended last year's concert either used, sold or bought drugs openly. Paez put attendance last year at 21,000. But a police report of the event faxed to The Herald by event lawyers put the estimated attendance at 30,000.

Lawyers for Ultra said promoters have not received any complaints stemming from the previous two years they've held the event at the park.

The police report cited 56 arrests, but did not detail the reason for the detentions. It also noted that four people had been hospitalized but did not say why.

The report made two recommendations for improved security: barricades and more police at money collection booths.

The report, as faxed to The Herald, made no reference to drugs.

LETTERS OF PRAISE

Promoters said police and fire officials and the Bayfront Park Management Trust have given approval to have the concert again this year.

Promoters also faxed to The Herald copies of letters from Bayfront Park officials to park officials elsewhere in the country praising the organization of the event last year.

''The producers demonstrated a commitment to patron safety, collaborating closely with City of Miami police and Fire Rescue,'' said a letter signed by Timothy Schmand, executive director for Bayfront Park Management Trust. ``The Trust believes that Ultra Music Festival will continue to work closely with them in the future.''

This year's event is advertised on both the city of Miami and Bayfront Park websites. The Bayfront Park website speaks of the festival in glowing terms: ''This is one party you can't miss!'' a note on the site says.


Posted by butterfly on Mar-10-2003 17:59:

how did this get posted in the ny forum before florida?


Posted by R O C on Mar-10-2003 18:03:

Don't know, but I just found out about this 15 minutes ago... the article is only on the Miami Herald website, so if you don't normally go there, you wouldn't know.


Posted by SpykeChyld on Mar-10-2003 19:23:

quote:
Diaz began to worry when he learned a few weeks ago that the festival was returning.


OK, How the fuck does the mayor of Miami not know about a 40,000 person festival in the middle of Bayfront park untill 2 weeks beforehand. I knew in August! HEll, in August I'd never even been in Miami!

That "report" has so many holes in it. It's glaringly apparent that Diaz just has an extremely bad case of small-dickalitus and is looking for a way to make up for it.


Posted by butterfly on Mar-10-2003 20:32:

quote:
Originally posted by SpykeChyld

That "report" has so many holes in it. It's glaringly apparent that Diaz just has an extremely bad case of small-dickalitus and is looking for a way to make up for it.


yes, for example, i don't see how they can have stats on how many people were under 18. under 21 i could see maybe they could track but they certaintly don't ask your age when you buy a ticket, do they?


Posted by PatMcGroin on Mar-10-2003 20:42:

do NOT worry about this. my mom works for the law firm that represented the promoters of ultra. they wrote up a big long complaint against the city. including counts of breaking oral and written contracts. and i just found out 20 mins ago.

we won! the city of miami dropped their case to cancel the event. so its over.

ULTRA WILL TAKE PLACE!

no worries.


Posted by 531.am on Mar-10-2003 20:44:

Same shit happen here in Dallas for Texas Zen Festival. It's just a political scare, but they did end up loosing alot of money because everyone was afraid of loosing there money if they went. So to make a long story short, the show went on...the Texas Zen promoters lost A TON OF MONEY, and now they're sueing the shit out the city that the party was going to be hosted at.

One way or another, this party is going to be huge!!


Posted by Freeza on Mar-10-2003 21:01:

Satan (eek!)

Ok this thread just scared the shit outa me....

Just to clear things up - Everything is all set now right? Ultra will take place definatly? Or are things still being talked about?

Please don't let them cancell Ultra


Posted by djjesp on Mar-10-2003 21:05:

This Scared the shit outa me also

Thanks Pat
and thanks to your mom also!!


Posted by TigerClaw on Mar-10-2003 21:13:

The Media should be the ones to blame, They only talk about negatives in these events and never the possitive side, Newspapers are run by people who are biased against a lot of things.


Posted by LiquidX on Mar-10-2003 21:49:

- Fucking MANNY DIAZ! ! bitch ass!! ( sorry about that) That was a damm big ass scare!!! it sacared the crap out of me.. aaahh!!! imagine if they would've cancel, dumm ass!!!I think that if they keep on placing those kind of problems for Ultra, then what they will have to do is move the event somewhere else in Florida.. ???? DOnt know, bu that Manny Diaz will see.. !

thanks PAT for the news though, god bless your mom!


Posted by PatMcGroin on Mar-10-2003 22:05:

i'll let my mom know she made a lot of people sleep easy tonight


Posted by j_spot on Mar-10-2003 23:19:

I would personally sue the city for shutting this event down.
fuck, im in teh states, I can sue for anything, cant I?

yes, a big article like this CAN and most likely will affect one part of sales only, door walkups. TONNES of cash is made from door sales, and articles like this, especially if written at the right time(say this had been early next week) can be 100% devastating.
Sucks to be a promoter in this day and age!


Posted by PatMcGroin on Mar-10-2003 23:40:

more info from my mom:
water will be $3.50 (better than the $5 last year)
no pacifers (sp?)
no lollipops

and arturo has said its 16+ (i dunno about that)

its supposed to be on the news tonight. so i'm gonna watch it.


Posted by Freeza on Mar-10-2003 23:59:

Someone tape it! hehe


Posted by Freeza on Mar-11-2003 00:34:

I know this is definaly to early to ask - But I figure with all this last minute bull shit happening this year - Can we count on Ultra definaly not happening next year then? (That's what I'm thinkin') =/

Oh well, at least we can definaly get to experiance that place at least one more time!!!


Posted by LiquidX on Mar-11-2003 02:01:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
more info from my mom:
water will be $3.50 (better than the $5 last year)
no pacifers (sp?)
no lollipops

and arturo has said its 16+ (i dunno about that)

its supposed to be on the news tonight. so i'm gonna watch it.


WOW thats a big + 3.50 a bottle of water.. good good goooood!!! I mean, everysingle festival that you would go to, water costs 5 bucks, Ultra is breaking the line!!! hehehehe... and about lollipops, who cares, and pacifiers..mmm not that it affects me hehehehe. And I doubt its 16+, they said all ages. Its posted all ages soo.. I dont think so.

And ooohh what channel will the news be at? or will it be on basically any channel?


Posted by LiquidX on Mar-11-2003 02:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Freeza
I know this is definaly to early to ask - But I figure with all this last minute bull shit happening this year - Can we count on Ultra definaly not happening next year then? (That's what I'm thinkin') =/

Oh well, at least we can definaly get to experiance that place at least one more time!!!



Mmmm I doubt it. First, Ultra attracts and brings so much money to Miami, that Miami will feel sorry once they loose Ultra. I doubt that Ultra will not happen again, but probably on a different venue. Though it will be greatly affected hence the fact of the WMC if it DOES move.


Posted by doritaka on Mar-11-2003 04:31:

we can invite Mayor for the ultra. He might change his mind. but I can't belive he try to cancel before 2weeks the event


Posted by j_spot on Mar-11-2003 06:18:

youve got to be kidding me

there IS going to be rampant drug use. You know it, I know it. Its just a fact. well..here in canada thats no reason to shut things down. its a reason to arrest the ppl selling and buying. Damn american laws!!!


Posted by DaveSZ on Mar-11-2003 06:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cubano
Same shit happen here in Dallas for Texas Zen Festival. It's just a political scare, but they did end up loosing alot of money because everyone was afraid of loosing there money if they went. So to make a long story short, the show went on...the Texas Zen promoters lost A TON OF MONEY, and now they're sueing the shit out the city that the party was going to be hosted at.

One way or another, this party is going to be huge!!


Are you talking about the 2001 ZenFest?? Or a later installment??
I didn't even know there was a second one it was so underpromoted...



Posted by DaveSZ on Mar-11-2003 06:53:

quote:
Originally posted by doritaka
we can invite Mayor for the ultra. He might change his mind. but I can't belive he try to cancel before 2weeks the event



That's a great idea! Take him to see Tijs and Paul Van Dyk!!! It might change his mind. Then again, he might also see some rolling people and get freaked out.....


Posted by fr0st on Mar-11-2003 08:12:

If Diaz wanted to realy stop it he could have kept a better watch over the event rather than trying to do some bullshit 2weeks before the event... politicians can go fuck them selves....


Posted by SpykeChyld on Mar-11-2003 23:00:

I'm still wondering how the mayor of Miami didn't know about this untill last week. By saying that he only showed his ignorance.

And no lollipops? Are you serious? ROFL


Posted by LiquidX on Mar-11-2003 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by SpykeChyld
I'm still wondering how the mayor of Miami didn't know about this untill last week. By saying that he only showed his ignorance.

And no lollipops? Are you serious? ROFL


- Yeah, when people are rolling they use lollipops for whatever reason. And who would care if there is lollipops or not, they sell for 1 DOLLAR! ! ( Im talking about the cheap 25 cents ones, the BLOW POPS)


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