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Posted by Zack Roth on Mar-12-2003 03:13:

Dual cd players...

Just recently I started thinking about taking up DJing as a hobby. I listen to music like it's my job, I figure why not make it productive at least....
I was torn between going for the turntables or the cd decks, and I decided that since I'm just starting out, and that as of now I'm gonna be doing it just as a hobbey, i'd go for the CD decks. I have been told they're a good place to start, and cheaper than the turntables and vinyl. Now I have begun to actually look for a set of decks, and admittedly I really don't know too much about what I'm looking for. I want to get a quality machine,, but I'm not about to spend like $1200 for the Denon 9000. I also don't want some piece of shit. The ones I have looked at so far, and are seriously considering are the following. if anyone can recommend a good one, or give input as to which one is the best and why, I woudl really appreciate it.
Also if you could recommend any that would be amzing as well. Thanks
1. Pioneer CMX 3000 or CMX 5000 (so far this is the one I'm liking the most)

2. Numark CDN90 (cheaper than the Pioneer and Denon)

3. Numark CDN88(seems like almost the same one as the CDN90, maybe an older model)

4. Denon 2600 (most expensive but i like it a lot)

Posted by sot on Mar-12-2003 16:50:

I got the dn 2600's and there real good, i love em but imho i should have gotten the dn 2100's and saved some cash cuz some of the feautyres on the 2600 i never use. I also heard good things about the cmx 3000 by pioneer. If money isnt a issue go with the denons if it is, i would go with either the denon dn 2100's or the cmx 3000.

Posted by onceler on Mar-12-2003 17:41:

i have American Dj ones. I know they are cheap and what not, but i have yet to have a problem w/ them. Figure out what your budget is, and stick to it, i dont use any of the features on my other than the pitch and what not.

Posted by Dj Flesch on Mar-14-2003 00:45:

I have two comments for you, first if you are dead set on getting a dual cd deck, then go right ahead. But I think that single decks are a little bit more versatile and if you break one, you can still use the other one! Not only that, but you don't HAVE to rack mount them like the dual players. But most of this is just personal preference.

I'll list out several things that are important (to me at least) in a cd player to allow for better Djing.

1. Large jog wheel--this way you can tweak things at much smaller intervals than with an itsy bitsy jog wheel.

2. Get a front loading slot--top mounting and front loading trays have the potential to break off, get damaged, start squeaking, get stuck etc etc etc.

3. Look for a decent pitch range. Techs(TT) only go +/- 8%, my TTX1s go +/- 50% (though I usually only use +/- 20%.

4. Effects--your choice if you have them on your mixer, your decks, or both.

5. Lots of crap that you don't think that you will use--why pay for it if you don't plan on using it!

6. Choose a reliable brand--Pioneer is it IMHO, I would suggest staying away from American DJ products, unless you get their higher end scratching deck--pro scratch 1, but I think that it's being discontinued, which also says something!

7. Try to go to a Dj equipment store, Sam ash, Mars Music etc and actually try them out for yourself first before you spend $500-$900. You may find out that you hate the way one deck feels, or another looks etc.

My personal suggestion is to go with Pioneer CMX-3000. The 5000 has a few looping features that the 3000 doesn't have, but the 3000 has wave display, which is neat. Most people don't ever use looping and if they do, they use it on their mixer not their cd deck etc.

Posted by Zack Roth on Mar-14-2003 04:59:

Thanks for the input....
Anyone know anything about the Numark CD players? They are moderately priced, and the higher end ones coome with a ton of features.

Posted by DJ Tranz on Mar-15-2003 03:32:

How about a dual CD player that can act as 4 cd decks?

Well then spend a bit more money and get the best of the best:

DENON DN9000

Just check out these awesome features:

World`s most advanced double CD player. Definately, Highly recommended by DjMart. This deck is the best dual cd player we've ever seen. I mean You can mix two(2) tracks from the same cd. You can really scratch on it. You can pitch any song up and down +/-100%(double the speed to completly stopped) maintaining the Key of the vocals(midrange frequecies). This allows you to make your own remixes on the fly. If your in the market for a dual deck cd player and you want the best, this is it,hands down. Check out the Specs. and Features..
Easy Maintenance removable drives (worlds first)
Alpha Track Play �Allows independent and simultaneous playback of another track from the same disc! (worlds first)
Create up to 4 seamless loops per track or disc (worlds first)
4 Hot Starts (worlds first)
2 (15) Second on-board samplers that include: Output volume, reverse play, looping, scratch & pitch (worlds first)
Simultaneous Seamless Looping and Sampler playback
6 Stutter Cue Play points (worlds first)
Scratch Effect w/directional modes, Forward-Reverse-Both Disc or Sampler (worlds first)
A/B Loop Trim �on the fly loop editing
A-B Splice �removes unwanted sections of a track seamlessly (worlds first)
6 on-board Effects Filter (2-type), Delay, Flanger, Transform (2-type)
New smooth Key adjust accurate up to �99%
Pitch range; �4,10,16,24,100%
Auto/Manual BPM counter
Plays CD-R/RW media
Rotary Track Selector Knob
5 Platter Modes: DragStart., Brake, Echo, Dump, Reverse
Large Jog Wheel with rubberized coating (70mm)
Illuminated Action Buttons w/tactile feedback
Illuminated drive trays and Jog Wheel perimeter
Fluorescent Tube Display w/ Dot Matrix Text support
Digital Output w/no limitations (SPDIF)
Fader Start & X-Effect compatible
Program Play, Random Play, Relay Play
Custom Memory -save up to 5000 Loops and Cue�s to internal memory
Memo Copy from one�s DN-D9000/DN-2600F controller to another DN-D9000
Platter Hold -extreme pitch bend by the Jog Wheel �100% max
16 seconds of Shock Proof Memory
Auto disc tray closing system (adjustable)
Auto Sleep function; prolongs the life of internal parts
4 RCA audio outputs (2 per drive)
2 Digital outputs (coaxial)
Designed with SHARC� DSP�s for maximum performance and speed.
24-bit, 192-kHz D/A converters
2 pieces: controller 3U, drive unit 2U rack spaces

You can actually get away with as simple of a 2 channel mixer as possible, since you can do tons of effects with this dual cd player, and you can play one track from one cd while cueing another track from SAME CD on the SAME DRIVE, plus utilizing DVD ROM Drive train, means more torque which means faster start,less wear, BETTER. AND the whole unit is built in components, which means if something bring, a big if 'cause this unit is great, just replace the components thats gone bad. only a few hundred more than 2600 BUT WELL WORTH THE MONEY, you won't be sorry you spent the extra dough....