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FBI Probes Fake Evidence of Iraqi Nuclear Plans

By Dana Priest and Susan Schmidt
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 13, 2003; Page A17


The FBI is looking into the forgery of a key piece of evidence linking Iraq to a nuclear weapons program, including the possibility that a foreign government is using a deception campaign to foster support for military action against Iraq.

"It's something we're just beginning to look at," a senior law enforcement official said yesterday. Officials are trying to determine whether the documents were forged to try to influence U.S. policy, or whether they may have been created as part of a disinformation campaign directed by a foreign intelligence service.

"We're looking at it from a preliminary stage as to what it's all about," he said.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek cough ... israel ... cough

haha

here's a similar article:

Ex-CIA Officers Questioning Iraq Data

By JOHN J. LUMPKIN
Associated Press Writer

March 14, 2003, 1:45 PM EST

Re: FBI Probes Fake Evidence of Iraqi Nuclear Plans

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Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior It's something we're just beginning to look at," a senior law enforcement official said yesterday. Officials are trying to determine whether the documents were forged to try to influence U.S. policy, or whether they may have been created as part of a disinformation campaign directed by a foreign intelligence service.

Hm, the emphasis is solely on foreign perpetrators. What if it was internal....? But I'm sure no one wants to discuss that! America, land of the free...

hmm it dont sorprise me.

This is no doubt just a series in the many of Anglo-American follies in the lead up to this (just, I still think) war, but I very much doubt that U.S and British intelligence was cognescent of these issues and that their publication of this without much background work was just poor judgement, not anything more sinister as I'm sure a few of you would believe.

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Originally posted by IronDragon This is no doubt just a series in the many of Anglo-American follies in the lead up to this (just, I still think) war, but I very much doubt that U.S and British intelligence was cognescent of these issues and that their publication of this without much background work was just poor judgement, not anything more sinister as I'm sure a few of you would believe.

I just read off of cnn or bbc that it's unlikely that the British, Americans, or Israelis are sources of this forgery. Reason being is that all these countries have extensive intelligence agencies that would unlikely make such simple mistakes in creating forgeries. The reason why it slipped through is that the info was immediately passed onto the UN in good faith a day or two after the British intelligence first received the info. No claim was made by the British or Americans as to its authenticity. It was merely passed on to the UN for the sake of weapons inspections.

-Yeah, in good faith eeh? thats what Powell said several times. Thing is BUSH used it as EVIDENCE FOR WAR! ! ! .. now, shouldnt the US do research on the INFO they gain?!?! see.. lies always come on top. Good faith ehh? hehehehehe

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Originally posted by LiquidX -Yeah, in good faith eeh? thats what Powell said several times. Thing is BUSH used it as EVIDENCE FOR WAR! ! ! .. now, shouldnt the US do research on the INFO they gain?!?! see.. lies always come on top. Good faith ehh? hehehehehe

LISTEN TO WHAT I SAID. No claims were made as to the veracity of the the documents when they were presented to the UN. They were handed over to the UN a DAY or two after they were recieved by BRITISH intelligence agencies. What kind of research do you think can be accomplished in 2 days??? It took the UN how long before they discovered that they were forgeries????

-Exactly, and because of things like that the US shoudlnt be in saying EVIDENCE FOR WAR, or attack right away.. see, imagine the U.S. attacks and its on war, and then they find that it was all fake, and thousands of people die, U.S. looses money. Nations cant just go and shove off evidence they receive. And the U.N. clearly said that any evidence that Powell showed (the tapes and pictures) must be thoroughly examined, which NOW I see it as a very good thing to do.. and I think that any evidence that the U.S. proofs to have gotten and show, needs to be examined as well, before going to war, you cant just go to war because some evidence was given jsut a day or two days, and declare war because of it. Here we see that a WAR with Iraq needs more time, and whatever evidence the U.S. needs to show it and prove it, besides of been examined.

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Originally posted by LiquidX -Exactly, and because of things like that the US shoudlnt be in saying EVIDENCE FOR WAR, or attack right away.. see, imagine the U.S. attacks and its on war, and then they find that it was all fake, and thousands of people die, U.S. looses money. Nations cant just go and shove off evidence they receive. And the U.N. clearly said that any evidence that Powell showed (the tapes and pictures) must be thoroughly examined, which NOW I see it as a very good thing to do.. and I think that any evidence that the U.S. proofs to have gotten and show, needs to be examined as well, before going to war, you cant just go to war because some evidence was given jsut a day or two days, and declare war because of it. Here we see that a WAR with Iraq needs more time, and whatever evidence the U.S. needs to show it and prove it, besides of been examined.

Yes but this evidence is not the sole pretext for the reasons to use force. It's one iota of evidence of Iraq's non compliance. Fine it's dismissed as a forgery but there are still other legitimate reasons in place. Look, Iraq was obligated to provide a FULL weapons disclosure in a report in December ... remember that? They were to outline EVERYTHING in their weapons arsenal from banned weapons to biological and chemical weapons stock. They CLEARLY did not disclose everything since banned weapons are CURRENTELY being discovered! So right then and there you can say that they failed to comply fully with UN inspections! Everybody is saying that it's ok because they are dismantling those weapons now that they were discovered but it's NOT! It's ridiculous that we're operating under the assumption that they are complying as long as they destroy everything that we FIND! Now I hear that they will issue an additional report detailing their chemical/biological weapons status. WHY WASN'T THIS INCLUDED IN THE INITIAL REPORT???? They are playing games with us and everybody is sanctioning their bullshit. You can keep saying that ohhh these missiles that were recentely found don't pose MUCH of a threat but for everything that is discovered, what is still laying in hiding???

Evidence for this war has been accumulating over the past 12 YEARS not the past 6 months. It's absolutely ridiculous that over this period of time Iraq has never FULLY complied with UN inspections. The UN should be ashamed that a resolution established in 1991 has YET to be fully satisfied in 2003.

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