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Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Mar-14-2003 03:02:

A Pro-Israel Lobby

The 'pro-Israel' Lobby
By Michael Kinsley

FULL OP-EP FROM MSNBC

"Former President Clinton once described the Zionist lobby as �stunningly effective� and �better than anyone else lobbying this town�? Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has gone even further (as is his wont), labeling the Zionists �the most effective general interest group � across the entire planet.� (Gingrich added ominously that if the Zionist lobby �did not exist, we would have to invent� it.) House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt is quoted saying that if it weren�t for the Zionist lobby �fighting on a daily basis,� the close relationship between America and Israel �would not be.� Sen. John McCain has said that this lobby �has long played an instrumental and absolutely vital role� in protecting the interests of Israel with the U.S. government. There is a string of quotes from leading Israeli politicians making the same point."

Posted by occrider on Mar-14-2003 03:26:

Re: A Pro-Israel Lobby

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Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
The 'pro-Israel' Lobby
By Michael Kinsley

FULL OP-EP FROM MSNBC

"Former President Clinton once described the Zionist lobby as �stunningly effective� and �better than anyone else lobbying this town�? Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has gone even further (as is his wont), labeling the Zionists �the most effective general interest group � across the entire planet.� (Gingrich added ominously that if the Zionist lobby �did not exist, we would have to invent� it.) House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt is quoted saying that if it weren�t for the Zionist lobby �fighting on a daily basis,� the close relationship between America and Israel �would not be.� Sen. John McCain has said that this lobby �has long played an instrumental and absolutely vital role� in protecting the interests of Israel with the U.S. government. There is a string of quotes from leading Israeli politicians making the same point."

Heh are you trying to subtely imply something with these two posts one right after the other?

Posted by malek on Mar-14-2003 04:51:

this is no news...

Posted by melech_mike on Mar-14-2003 21:02:

Posted by Eugene on Mar-15-2003 19:59:

Next thing you will say is that there's a Jewish conspiracy around the world designed to kill all Arabs and control the universe.

Idiot...

Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Mar-16-2003 01:55:

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Originally posted by Eugene
Next thing you will say is that there's a Jewish conspiracy around the world designed to kill all Arabs and control the universe.

Idiot...

Don't be so naive! I'm not suggesting anything anti-Semitic but you must recognize "power" when you encounter it. Like ahlamalek stated, this isn't really news.

Posted by TranceGiant on Mar-16-2003 02:02:

so why this thread?

Posted by victor on Mar-16-2003 02:18:

yeah there was always an isreal lobby... wot's the point??

Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Mar-16-2003 03:03:

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so why this thread?

wot's the point?

This is relevant to current events. Last week United States Representative James Moran of the House of Representative made a comment that the Israel Lobby should try to use its influence to stop the war. Later this week he was forced was forced out of his party leadership post.

Full Article

Posted by melech_mike on Mar-16-2003 07:48:

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Don't be so naive! I'm not suggesting anything anti-Semitic but you must recognize "power" when you encounter it. Like ahlamalek stated, this isn't really news.

quote:
This is relevant to current events. Last week United States Representative James Moran of the House of Representative made a comment that the Israel Lobby should try to use its influence to stop the war. Later this week he was forced was forced out of his party leadership post.

And you must recognize that there is absolutely no reason for the Jewish community and all its influence to want to stop this war from occurring. What has Saddam done for/to us... thought so!

This man sympathizes with those who perpetuate crimes against humanity such as those carried out by the terror groups Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, and Arafat's own Al-Aqsa martyrs� brigade.

You�re telling us that we should try and avert murdering this motherfucking cocksucking piece of dirty shit, and his crew of terror?
You must be pretty messed up to think that Americas Jewish lobby would push to stop the war.

We want this dirt bag killed. End of story!
And when time comes for other leaders who despise Jews, don�t expect them to be so eager to try and stop they're dictatorships from being toppled.

The Jewish lobby of America is very powerful. If you check its track record of what issues and policies they push for, you'll almost always find that it�s a good cause.

America is lucky the Arab/Muslim lobby isn't so strong; we'd probably find Jews banished from the land and Christians enslaved!

G-d bless America!

Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Mar-16-2003 20:49:

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If you check its track record of what issues and policies they push for, you'll almost always find that it�s a good cause.

For whom? Apparently not the Palestinians.

Posted by melech_mike on Mar-17-2003 01:12:

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Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
For whom? Apparently not the Palestinians.

Apparently not... but for all those freedom and peace loving nations of the world, it does. Thank g-d that we hold the majority over those dictatorships and run-down regimes that dare to threaten world security for they're own false "cause's"!

Posted by melech_mike on Mar-17-2003 03:05:

Peaceful Warrior, think you should check out this thread:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=96166
Can you please respond to it!