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Jew's to blame for War on Iraq!
In recent weeks, the amount of anti-Israel sentiment has reached those levels seen in the 1930's. It's disgusting that today's society learned nothing from the years leading up to WW2.
Jewish conspiracies to take over the world have been springing up almost everywhere; again.
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??
Has everyone gone mad and become retarded?
Wake the fuck up... this world is going up in flames and your solution is to blame the Jew�s for this mess?
This conspiracy shit wouldn't even make the X-files its so wack!
And you wonder why there is such a strong Jewish lobby. For if we weren�t so powerful a lobby, we'd probably be ordered to our death yet once again. You looking to lynch someone... lynch yourselves!
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| "WACKY IRAQI CONSPIRACY THEORY" * * * The conspiracy theorists are popping up across media and political circles: America's showdown with Iraq is a Zionist-led plot. Bill Keller's op-ed in The New York Times describes it like this: "A cadre of pro-Zionist zealots within the Bush administration and among its media chorus (the "amen corner," as the isolationist Pat Buchanan crudely called them last time we threatened Iraq) has long schemed to make the Middle East safer for Israel by uprooting the hostile regime of Saddam Hussein. They have finally succeeded, the theory goes, in pushing their agenda up to the desk of a gullible president." http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/08/opinion/08KELL.html At the basis of the theory is a 1996 memo by some American conservatives, written for Binyamin Netanyahu, spelling out ideas for Israeli diplomatic-economic-security policy. One of the items called for the removal of Saddam Hussein from power. (Read the document at: http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm) The Washington Post describes how "these 'neocons' then insinuated themselves into the Bush administration and seized on 9/11 as the pretext to put their plan into motion. Mr. Bush and his top foreign-policy team -- Vice President Cheney, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice and CIA Director George J. Tenet -- are presumably too weak and gullible to evade the manipulations of these Jews." http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar...-2003Mar11.html * * * So who is spreading this conspiracy theory? Here�s a short list: JIM MORAN (U.S. Congressman)-- "If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this. The leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going, and I think they should." EDWARD SAID (Columbia professor and Palestinian apologist) --"Wherever you look in the Congress there are the tell-tale signs either of the Zionist lobby, the right-wing Christians, or the military-industrial complex, three inordinately influential minority groups who share hostility to the Arab world, unbridled support for extremist Zionism, and an insensate conviction that they are on the side of the angels." http://www.counterpunch.org/said03082003.html DAVID DUKE (former KKK leader) -- "By any standard, this Iraq war is of no benefit to the United States of America, nor is it of any benefit to the commercial oil industry. So, for whose benefit does America wage this war? The answer is Israel, Israel, Israel! Radical Jewish supremacists in Israel launched this drive for war. Their agents all over the world, both in government and media, have been the real power behind this war." http://www.balochistanpost.com/item.asp?ID=3436 * * * One might expect such comments from the political fringe. But what is shocking is that this conspiracy theory is getting ink in some "mainstream" publications. Consider this op-ed published by the Chicago Tribune, written by University of Chicago professor Fred Donner. Donner writes of a Likud-U.S. conspiracy to remove Saddam Hussein that will give Israel "an opportunity implement its long-cherished dream of expelling all Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza" and the U.S. will allow this "ethnic cleansing." We expect better from an ostensibly respectable paper like the Tribune. Read the article at: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ommentary%2Dhed Comments to: [email protected] Fax: (312) 222-2598 * * * Of course, this conspiracy theory has as much credibility as the popular belief in Muslim countries that the Israeli Mossad orchestrated the Sept. 11 attacks. Yet for the anti-Israel media and politicians, the Iraqi showdown is just another opportunity to foment anti-Israel sentiment. As Keller writes in The New York Times: "The fact that our interests coincide with Israel's does not mean that a Zionist fifth column has hijacked the president's brain... Making the world safer for us -- defusing terrorism and beginning to reform a region that is a source of toxic hostility to what we stand for -- happens to make the world safer for Israel as well. But the idea that Israel's interests are driving one of the most momentous shifts in America's foreign policy is simple-minded and offensive." History, it seems, is repeating itself. As The Economist observes: "In the 1930s, when anti-Semitism was both pervasive and respectable in America, Charles Lindbergh and his America-Firsters blamed Jewish interests for trying to drag America into a pointless war with Germany." http://economist.com/world/na/displ...tory_id=1632966 |
Yes we are all anti-semites. Even when it is plain as day that this war helps the militarists in Israel. Even when there own policy documents spell out clear as day why war on Iraq helps Israel.
I read this a long time ago.
http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm
It is co-authored by Richard Perle. Oh what a suprise, he is also a top american government official.
But we are all anti-semites. Even when Richard Perle says explicitly in 1996 what needs to be done, attack Iraq, ignore Oslo peace treaties, isolate Syria.
What do you want me to do, ignore your own clear as day statements.
Oh what a suprise, the american administration is filled with officials who are either Israeli citizens, Israel lobby activists or former bosses of Military industrial complex companies. I dont need to make it up. Its true. Ari Fleisher, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle.
Fine Israel and America want war. So be it. In the long run this will be a disaster for both countries.
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| Originally posted by rupert Yes we are all anti-semites. Even when it is plain as day that this war helps the militarists in Israel. Even when there own policy documents spell out clear as day why war on Iraq helps Israel. I read this a long time ago. http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm It is co-authored by Richard Perle. Oh what a suprise, he is also a top american government official. But we are all anti-semites. Even when Richard Perle says explicitly in 1996 what needs to be done, attack Iraq, ignore Oslo peace treaties, isolate Syria. What do you want me to do, ignore your own clear as day statements. Oh what a suprise, the american administration is filled with officials who are either Israeli citizens, Israel lobby activists or former bosses of Military industrial complex companies. I dont need to make it up. Its true. Ari Fleisher, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle. Fine Israel and America want war. So be it. In the long run this will be a disaster for both countries. |
The israeli airforce blew up the Iraqi nuclear facility (supplied by France) in the early 1980's. Apparently Saddam wasnt too happy about it neither.
Oh well, Iran will get nuclear weapons sooner or later. Israel's monopoly on nuclear weapons in the Middle East was never going to last.
Later
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| Originally posted by rupert Oh what a suprise, the american administration is filled with officials who are either Israeli citizens, Israel lobby activists or former bosses of Military industrial complex companies. |
Heh, Israel and the US have very good relations, especially on the top political level. I don't think this is an Israeli plot, although both Bush and Israel want to see Saddam gone. I do think however, that Israel had at least some influence in assuring Bush he should attack Iraq.
off course you can't blame Israel for the upcoming war
this is just the same kind of shit the Israelians are used to write in "credible" (un-biased) papers
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| Originally posted by rupert Oh what a suprise, the american administration is filled with officials who are either Israeli citizens, Israel lobby activists or former bosses of Military industrial complex companies. I dont need to make it up. Its true. Ari Fleisher, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle. Fine Israel and America want war. So be it. In the long run this will be a disaster for both countries. |
Well glad to see this place it still filled with the same idiotic posts, remarks, and israel bashing I last saw it in...
As for on topic remarks:
I thought you guys believed that the US government was controlled by the OIL INDUSTRY - these guys are 100% pro-arab, so how can the US government be controlled by the oil industry - going to war for oil, and at the same time be led by the Jewish lobby, and Pro-Israel factions?
You guys got yourselves confused.
On a more intellectual note, I will concede Jews have influence in America - but so does everyone else. They are an interest group, yet there interests are outweighed by other interest groups. A shit, what am I doing.. sorry I can't make intellectual notes here, you won't understand.
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| I thought you guys believed that the US government was controlled by the OIL INDUSTRY - these guys are 100% pro-arab, so how can the US government be controlled by the oil industry - going to war for oil, and at the same time be led by the Jewish lobby, and Pro-Israel factions? |
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| Well glad to see this place it still filled with the same idiotic posts |
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| A shit, what am I doing.. sorry I can't make intellectual notes here, you won't understand. |
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| Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 I see you didn't want to be left out so you added your own contribution to the stupid post heap. : |
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| Originally posted by Izzy its like we're all one big happy family... i missed you guys (im being serious) |
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| Originally posted by occrider Anyway where have you been? |
NO WAR NO WAY!!!! DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO STOP WAR, EVERY LITTLE BIT COUNTS!!!! IF BUSH GETS ELECTED IT IS ALMOST CERTAIN HE WILL BRING THE DRAFT INTO EFFECT.....
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| Originally posted by KLINGKLANG77 NO WAR NO WAY!!!! DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO STOP WAR, EVERY LITTLE BIT COUNTS!!!! IF BUSH GETS ELECTED IT IS ALMOST CERTAIN HE WILL BRING THE DRAFT INTO EFFECT..... |
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| its like we're all one big happy family... i missed you guys (im being serious) |
Well. To be honest. The Jews have always been a target for someone so dont blow your load over what u find on the net. Just like the jewish arab conflict its nothing new, we can trace Jew Flaming way way way back.
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| Originally posted by occrider Americans aren't allowed to have dual citizenship ... |
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| Originally posted by LiquidX Yes they are.. |
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The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth. A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship. Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance. However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there.Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship.Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship. Information on losing foreign citizenship can be obtained from the foreign country's embassy and consulates in the United States. Americans can renounce U.S. citizenship in the proper form at U.S. embassies and consulates abroad. The automatic acquisition or retention of a foreign nationality does not affect U.S. citizenship; however, the acquisition of a foreign nationality upon one's own application may cause loss of U.S. citizenship under Section 349(a)(1) of the Immigration and Naturalization Act (8 U.S.C. 1481). In order for loss of nationality to occur under Section 349(a)(1), it must be established that the naturalization was obtained with the intention of relinquishing U.S. citizenship. Such an intention may be shown by a person's statements or conduct. If the U.S. Government is unable to prove that the person had such an intention when applying for and obtaining the foreign citizenship, the person will have both nationalities. |
Well, I sa it because I was borned in Chile, then came to the US when I was like 11 years old and now im Citizen of the US as well, the problem is Chile who does not accept dual nationality with the US but with Spain, Australia, Sweden, Norway.. and lots of other european countries, as well as Canada, but not US yet.. they are working at it! hopefully!
..so as soon Chile approves it, im citizen of both countries.
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| Originally posted by occrider Americans aren't allowed to have dual citizenship ... |
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| Originally posted by Az didn't israel bomb an Iraqi Nuclear power station once |
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| Originally posted by -CosmicFire- yes they did in 91.. now i wanna ask u ppl something.. do u think the hollocoast was for a right reasons!?!? |
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| Originally posted by -CosmicFire- yes they did in 91.. now i wanna ask u ppl something.. do u think the hollocoast was for a right reasons!?!? |
what's a hollocoast?
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