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Posted by dj tek on Mar-18-2003 00:46:

Pro DJs that use burnt mp3s @ gigs

do u know any pro dj that uses burnt mp3s @ gigs? i personally dont think thats cool since they have access to so many tunes "legitly" so i think its sorta the easy way out, and u aint helpin the scene either..anyone?


Posted by amit on Mar-18-2003 00:59:

well thing is...if they dont get the mp3 from the ARTIST...then they shouldnt spin it unless they buy it! thats the bottom line.


Posted by dj tek on Mar-18-2003 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by amit
well thing is...if they dont get the mp3 from the ARTIST...


thats exactly what im talking about


Posted by robstar on Mar-18-2003 01:07:

quote:
Originally posted by amit
well thing is...if they dont get the mp3 from the ARTIST...then they shouldnt spin it unless they buy it! thats the bottom line.


I agree!!


Posted by UWM on Mar-18-2003 01:44:

Scumfrog gives out mp3 of his new work on his site as a promotional tool and encourages people to burn it and use it.

I'm definitely going to buy 'Music Revolution' after listening to the free download.


Posted by Elmo-On-XTC on Mar-18-2003 02:18:

There's so much trance out there to buy. Sometimes theres a song that isn't really that good and isn't really worth the money to buy it but it might just fit so perfectly into the set your spinning that you HAVE to use it just that once, but you might never use it again.
Of course then again, you could argue that if it's good enough to put into your set you should buy it...


also don't forget that a lot of DJs own rare vinyls like Energy 52 - Cafe Del Mar or whatever and don't want to wear it out so they burn it to a cd and use that


Posted by robstar on Mar-18-2003 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Elmo-On-XTC
There's so much trance out there to buy. Sometimes theres a song that isn't really that good and isn't really worth the money to buy it but it might just fit so perfectly into the set your spinning that you HAVE to use it just that once, but you might never use it again.
Of course then again, you could argue that if it's good enough to put into your set you should buy it...

I think it's simple, if u earn money while playing records u have to pay for the music.
It's very important that dj's pay for the music they play if they didn't the sceen would collaps IMO.


quote:

also don't forget that a lot of DJs own rare vinyls like Energy 52 - Cafe Del Mar or whatever and don't want to wear it out so they burn it to a cd and use that

Yeah, that's ok to do since they own the vinyl.


Posted by VaNFeCto on Mar-18-2003 06:45:

Re: Pro DJs that use burnt mp3s @ gigs

quote:
Originally posted by dj tek
do u know any pro dj that uses burnt mp3s @ gigs? i personally dont think thats cool since they have access to so many tunes "legitly" so i think its sorta the easy way out, and u aint helpin the scene either..anyone?


I mean artist trade CDR's all the time i mean they get their latest tunes on Mp3s. They just wanna play the latest stuff and cds are a lot easy to get a hold of than vinyls. I mean I dont see how its damaging scene because the tunes will either be released on vinyls or they wont release them like PvD. In a way it helps the scene they dont get released and stuff like that at least i think.


Posted by DJDigDug on Mar-18-2003 07:14:

As promo that is great but i feel like whooping CDJs asses who burn all their tracks that i spend my drug money on :P


Posted by Solstice on Mar-18-2003 11:11:

i still cant understand a pro dj spinning mp3's?
i mean by very nature the track is compressed, which means less sound quality than .wav ( CD ) and of course vinyl?.

i dont care what 196kbs crap you try and string along, its still
compressed which is worse quality than wav or vinyl.


somebody please explain this too me!


Posted by bassaholix on Mar-18-2003 11:22:

I agree if they buy it then they should be able to make a copy.... cause vinyl is harder to take care of, but then again.. why not mix with vinyl the feel is so much better, but i guess for CDDJ's then hmmm.. i dunno.. this is a hard one to answer.. but if they did buy it then they should have the right to spin it...


Posted by kurai on Mar-18-2003 11:31:

Mp3 DJs are just poor asses imo


Posted by webbie on Mar-18-2003 11:37:

Deep Dish downloads mp3s to use in their sets.
Now before you hit the reply and start bashing, as I know some of you
would looove to do.
They download mp3s that are sent to them by artists and record companys
that are released while they are on tour and doesnt have possibilitys
to pick it up.

So they use it as a temporar matter until they can get the cd/vinyl.


Posted by kurai on Mar-18-2003 11:45:

quote:
Originally posted by webbie
Deep Dish downloads mp3s to use in their sets.
Now before you hit the reply and start bashing, as I know some of you
would looove to do.
They download mp3s that are sent to them by artists and record companys
that are released while they are on tour and doesnt have possibilitys
to pick it up.

So they use it as a temporar matter until they can get the cd/vinyl.


There's a little difference between artists getting the stuff directly and legally from the labels and some nobody getting it of a releasegroup server or whatever.


Posted by sektile on Mar-18-2003 11:54:

theres a 'final scratch' tour on atm here in AU. for those unfamiliar with final scratch, its basically a vinyl that you can load mp3's into.

there was a interview in a local mag with a guy called Mark Dynamix (pretty big here in au) and he was giving it the bigups, saying that he had a friend in germany who would "email" his latest tune over to mark and he'd be playing it that night.

now this sounds all happy and joyful, but as someone already mentioned.. quality? surely. even 320kbps mp3 is compressed and doesnt sound as good as vinyl or cd


Posted by D'Paul on Mar-18-2003 12:47:

Hold up, a vinyl mp3 disc? Please elaborate.


Posted by romain_2k2c on Mar-18-2003 12:51:

I know... at least 5-6 professional producers / deejays using mp3 ...
the only problem I see is... deejays and producers giving these private files to releasers (happens when it pops out on the net !)...


Posted by sektile on Mar-18-2003 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by D'Paul
Hold up, a vinyl mp3 disc? Please elaborate.

final scratch is a product from stanton, you get 2 vinyls that you literally 'load' mp3s into and you can cue, scratch, cut like a normal vinyl (apparently) - now i havent used it, but ive read a lot of good things about it, for one, Richie Hawtin uses it.

but yeah, the plus is obviously being able to have a laptop at a gig with thousands of mp3s...


Posted by dEEkAy on Mar-18-2003 14:23:

IMHO it's okay if Amatuer or Semi-Professional DJs use burnt mp3s (as long as they cannot buy them because they are no longer available or they cannot reach them).

BUT pro-DJs (e.g. PvD, Armin...) shouldnt do that, because they like get the tracks anyway legally as Promo CDR or Vinyl acetate.
BUT PPK kinda got famous cause Oakenfold played them from CDR (as he or someone else gave it to him from their mp3.com site)

So this is a pretty contradictory topic.

Greets, Matthew


Posted by kosmostar on Mar-18-2003 14:52:

quote:
Originally posted by dEEkAy
IMHO it's okay if Amatuer or Semi-Professional DJs use burnt mp3s (as long as they cannot buy them because they are no longer available or they cannot reach them).

BUT pro-DJs (e.g. PvD, Armin...) shouldnt do that, because they like get the tracks anyway legally as Promo CDR or Vinyl acetate.
BUT PPK kinda got famous cause Oakenfold played them from CDR (as he or someone else gave it to him from their mp3.com site)

So this is a pretty contradictory topic.

Greets, Matthew

yep this is exactly my opinion too


Posted by capricorn15 on Mar-18-2003 16:49:

why are you guys talking about this like it is so bad, you guys download mp3s too, whether you play it in live sets or not, you have it before it comes out too


Posted by b|p|3m on Mar-18-2003 17:10:

If djs who use mp3 of a song have the right to sound it because they buy it on an other and original support or because they have permission by author there is no problem. If it isn't so it's illegal and they aren't Pro dj's...


Posted by Stassi on Mar-18-2003 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by dEEkAy
IMHO it's okay if Amatuer or Semi-Professional DJs use burnt mp3s (as long as they cannot buy them because they are no longer available or they cannot reach them).

BUT pro-DJs (e.g. PvD, Armin...) shouldnt do that, because they like get the tracks anyway legally as Promo CDR or Vinyl acetate.
BUT PPK kinda got famous cause Oakenfold played them from CDR (as he or someone else gave it to him from their mp3.com site)

So this is a pretty contradictory topic.

Greets, Matthew

If PPK got popular because of a cdr Oakenfold used, then this madness must stop before trance gets furthermore polluted


Posted by vito on Mar-18-2003 19:13:

djs that get paid to play out music should pay the artists (i.e. buy their tunes)
i don't think any pro dj illegally plays mp3s, only wannabes do that

btw if you own the vinyl its ok to make a backup cd and play it


ppk was alright before it got slaughtered


Posted by kurai on Mar-18-2003 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by vito
djs that get paid to play out music should pay the artists (i.e. buy their tunes)
i don't think any pro dj illegally plays mp3s, only wannabes do that

btw if you own the vinyl its ok to make a backup cd and play it


ppk was alright before it got slaughtered




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