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Posted by bassaholix on Mar-26-2003 12:02:

Trance & Ethics

This is my 500th post.... woo hooo...

Finally.. lol... so anyways here it goes...

Do you feel that trance has altered your perception on how you see life and how you portray yourself towards others?????

I feel that im changed.. im more open minded of people and more friendly towards ppl, but then again there are ppl here in the boards that are really negative when you say stuff like PvD rocks...

How i see life... life is a journey, and trance helps me live that journey a small step at a time...

How i portray myself towards others is pretty simple... i try to do things that are fun and try to make good communication, trance is what made me become, in what i think is a better person, to who i was...

Do you feel this way about trance also?


Posted by djway on Mar-26-2003 12:25:

Short answer Yes,

Long answer, trance is me

Trance has allowed me to find and follow a true passion, trance allows me to express myself, and also given me greater acceptance of others.

I've met many a new friend (no not off chops!) from the music.

Not sure if life is built up of small steps, whatever way you wanna phrase life, trance is always playing in mine

Everyone I know who doesn't enjoy trance, just seems very up tight these days. I can TELL they aren't libereated, and it's farking weird coz you help them see freedom (for some IE us, it's trance).

I'm thankful every day for trance, and that's no shit.

--djway


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Mar-26-2003 12:25:

Not really, no.
Trance is just music like any other genre.


Posted by djway on Mar-26-2003 12:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Not really, no.
Trance is just music like any other genre.


Personally I'm yet to see that.

RnB has a lot of gangsters about and is about how much gold you wear, and how good you dance, or if you can break dance. I place hip hop somewhere near here

Pop is all about how good you look and how many 10000 friends you know.

SOME house is about the clothes you wear and the drinks you drink

Hard trance is about getting of guts.

Trance, Uplifting Melodic Trance, is about emotion, letting yourself going, happiness and a europhic feeling, something none of the above can/all you to do.

--djway


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Mar-26-2003 13:04:

To you, maybe.

I've personally never selected certain music style depending on what I wear, how tough I feel etc. etc.

To me music is music, regardless of genre.


Posted by djway on Mar-26-2003 13:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
To you, maybe.

I've personally never selected certain music style depending on what I wear, how tough I feel etc. etc.

To me music is music, regardless of genre.


All music effects everyone, agreeded. BUT doesn't different styles make you feel different ways? Not saying one style of music is better than another but to me personally Trance is my fav, and has braught me through a lot.

ALSO different styles of music attract a different crowd, you have to give me that. EG Death Metal fan dressed in full latex; how many people like that do you get @ a trance gig? I've seen none, why? I assume (yes assume) that they are not attracted to trance.

I don't mean to be going against you all the time, I just think your points, in relation to mine require more depth/thought on my part to get my point across.

/djway lets the topic go back, on_topic.

--djway


Posted by Nadi on Mar-26-2003 15:06:

No.


Posted by :CrasHeR-kiD: on Mar-26-2003 15:31:

Yes it has.

I'll tell you why:

Over the past few months its allowed me to lose my inhibitions and feel more comfortable with myself and my surroundings - it like the people i meet through the sharing of the passion that alter and often enhance my way of thinking and help me see things that i otherwise may have not seen.

Its sense of community has allowed be to embrace it as an escapism from life's daily tribulations of home and my own institionalised existence.

I attribute its qualities to my confidence and pride...
It has been something that I immerse myself in as not only a hobby but an emotional outlet for frustrations, depressions and often moments of utter jubiliation.

Its helped me develop my own aesthetic and self worth and sense of 'style' - flaired with my own sense of individuality amongst a crowd of faceless people.

It drives me forward as a source of divine inspiration and helps me channel positive energy into areas of my life that need attention when im down.

Lame or not.

Ive relinquished my own inhibitions, and freed myself from boring fucking norms and the shackles and restraints which mass culture and consumerism have burdened me with.

Electronic Music & its sense of community have indeed changed my life.


Posted by victor on Mar-26-2003 16:13:

it's good for relaxation...

but then i guess u can say that for any music...

i just love it coz it goes with my psycho character....

lol


Posted by VaNFeCto on Mar-26-2003 16:19:

I cant say so. It has made me more opend minded towards other genres of music but i mean as fas as all that stuff no.


Posted by Rhythm on Mar-26-2003 17:04:

Trance is my favorite form of self-expression. Music is a very poweful tool in conveying emotions. Of the many forms of music, Trance best describes my personality and emotions.


Posted by biznology on Mar-26-2003 17:27:

hell i love trance to death, but it is only music.


good music is good music because it allows you to experience things outside of what your everyday life might provide you. but that being said its just little waves of sound.

any 'change' you experienced is due to your own progress, something natural, or bum ba dad dum! drug use.

im neither avocating a position on that, nor refuting it.

trance doesnt make you 'more open minded' because i have met LOADS of people on TA that hate any other genre of music, or refuse to listen to certain types of electronic music if that electronic doesnt sound like a certain producer or dj.

but music does bring people together, and any relationships you make because of music could be influenced by it, but those relationships werent *created* by music or a certain music genre|


Posted by mmilo on Mar-26-2003 17:33:

quote:

Lame or not.

It's never lame to express your own opinion, nor is it lame for you to be who you are ... nice post!


... trance is absolutely amazing.
it's changed my life. its hard to pinpoint, but trance just affects me. i just seem to feel myself with the musik, agreeing with its pitches and drops, feeling uplifted if the bassline kicks in ...
... can't live without it.
strange how i can't express this kind of thing.

quote:

any 'change' you experienced is due to your own progress, something natural, or bum ba dad dum! drug use.
...
trance doesnt make you 'more open minded' because i have met LOADS of people on TA that hate any other genre of music, or refuse to listen to certain types of electronic music if that electronic doesnt sound like a certain producer or dj.

well first of all, is it not possible that this 'change' could be attributed to you listening to trance? ie. any thought developments, realizations made thru the music? things don't just happen out of the blue...

yah, i guess i would say that i would feel more 'open-minded' because i listen to and love trance.
but of course, that probably wouldn't be true, since we definitely can't be in a state of trance all the time.. admit it all ..


Posted by biznology on Mar-26-2003 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by mmilo
...


well first of all, is it not possible that this 'change' could be attributed to you listening to trance? ie. any thought developments, realizations made thru the music? things don't just happen out of the blue...

yah, i guess i would say that i would feel more 'open-minded' because i listen to and love trance.
but of course, that probably wouldn't be true, since we definitely can't be in a state of trance all the time.. admit it all ..



i said- that yes, some amount of change *could* *possibly* have come from trance. but again, its just music. its not like PvD or 'that bassline kicking in' went out, got you a girlfriend, got you a job or convinced your brain to physically modify itself in a way that would make you a better person.

i agree that trance can put you in a good mood, but so does any persons favorite genre of music. but people like Ste just dig that extra little serotonin boost it provides too! |


Posted by elena on Mar-26-2003 18:38:

Trance per se hasnt exactly altered my being.
it might sound bad but having trance change your complete being can be pretty shallow. Of course you and me have been deeply affected by it and made us a better person. That doesnt mean that trance is the foundation of your personality and your outlook on life. it's only an enhancer imo. sure it brings patience, open mindedness, kills the shyness etc etc but it doesnt exactly make you who you are, realistically speaking. know where im trying to get at?

dont get me wrong, like someone said earlier, trance=me or edm in general or even whatever you want to call it, progressive, house, breaks..etc etc.


Posted by Rostros on Mar-26-2003 18:43:

Yeah im a changed man.........


Posted by D'Paul on Mar-26-2003 18:49:

Trance is but a portion of the many dimensions of my life (as is any other genre of music). Sure I spin it and sure I listen to it regularly. However, if trance were gone, my life would go on without it.


Posted by Stories on Mar-26-2003 19:00:

Trance just made me realize how mainstream music is shallow and superficial. Trance exists because of the passion that people have for the music itself, something that seems to have been readily lost from the mainstream music scene (especially rap). Passion = better music than drive of money


Posted by contemplator on Mar-26-2003 19:41:

Nah, not really, but i love trance, especially tunes that make me think, i prefer those tunes over ones that dictate emotions with love vocals & negativity.


Posted by bassaholix on Mar-26-2003 21:05:

I loved all your responses... thanks for making my 500th post XTRA special.. ^_^


quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Not really, no.
Trance is just music like any other genre.


Its funny how you state this... but you are a Junkie XL Junkie!!!

Abit hypocritical in my books... sorry...

quote:
Originally posted by D'Paul
Trance is but a portion of the many dimensions of my life (as is any other genre of music). Sure I spin it and sure I listen to it regularly. However, if trance were gone, my life would go on without it.


I wasn't stating that if trance died i will die with it also...

Its true what sum said about tranceaddicts in here and other places diss trance or other genres because of sum unknown godly reason only they can figure out.. but to them its gone way over the top of them... this is so sad...


Posted by biznology on Mar-27-2003 12:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Stories
Trance just made me realize how mainstream music is shallow and superficial. Trance exists because of the passion that people have for the music itself, something that seems to have been readily lost from the mainstream music scene (especially rap). Passion = better music than drive of money



hey, guess what?! in NL trance is often quite mainstream!

there is always superficial music within any genre, but if you are too lazy to look for the good stuff then all you see is the pop.

quote:
Originally posted by bassaholix
Its funny how you state this... but you are a Junkie XL Junkie!!!

Abit hypocritical in my books... sorry...


so what? just because he is a fan doesnt mean it has changed the course of his life! so it most certainly isnt hypocritical.

listen, you all think you are right, but there are two sides to this. if you arent going to at least accept our position as valid, this debate can go on forever. its not worth it, we both have opinions- but they are just that, opinion and not fact|


Posted by bassaholix on Mar-27-2003 12:41:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
listen, you all think you are right, but there are two sides to this. if you arent going to at least accept our position as valid, this debate can go on forever. its not worth it, we both have opinions- but they are just that, opinion and not fact|


LMFAO.. u know what.. i would love to shake your hand.. i dunno how this post got so outta hand... lol...


Posted by biznology on Mar-27-2003 14:52:

quote:
Originally posted by bassaholix
LMFAO.. u know what.. i would love to shake your hand.. i dunno how this post got so outta hand... lol...


oh it was never out of hand.

i was just pointing out, as with so many discussions on TA, that this was based on opinion. no one has offered any factual, concrete evidence for trance changing their lives.

yet you started calling someone a hypocrite for liking JXL but not agreeing with you. tis ok tho|



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