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Regarding (Not Necassarily Exclusively) Melech_Mike

Folks, I've been a bit troubled lately with the way things are going in this forum... Seems like any argument involving Mike have turned (Sometimes by him, sometimes by others) personal and ongoing...
This has to stop as the political forum would probably be the most interesting one in this site without all this.

Mike, I'll have to ask you to try to cocentrate your claims in less threads, it seems like people in here are very annoyed with the high percantage of threads opened by you in this forum... Some of them, in my opinion, could have been parts of others, even though their claims aren't exactly the same.
Also, and this is also a personal wish from myself, you seem to have quoted many HUGE sources as of late, it's tiring to read completey and would make the impatient ones among us just press the "end" button and place another "Melech_Mike is a fant, we won't bother arguing with you this is ridiculous hahaha" post. It's hard at times to edit a source but please, please try to... It's also possible to give a link to a source and quote seperate sentences you find essential for your argument.
I also wanted to point that in many threads where the level of language has sank it was when you started it or replied to a [slightly]/[very] [badly phrased]/[disrespectful] post. I think all of us really need not to use any swearing in here... It completely makes the place look like a kindergarden at times. Seems like you have indeed lately avoided it though, thumbs up.

As for the rest, please refrain from calling Mike anything that you have not proved or concluded from things you've read here or anywhere else, I have yet to see any solid evidence for him being a racist and yet in the past couple of days seems like the cool thing to do is calling him that. It also seems like an "Everyone vs. Mike" marathon now which means we are getting too damn personal on these boards, rather than discusing large-scale phenomena. Use PMs, folks, Mike will decide whether to answer or not and the virtually pointless threads you insist on not contributing to will die faster.

the easiest way to solve the problem is just to not reply. wow, i really am a pacifist.

Re: Regarding (Not Necassarily Exclusively) Melech_Mike

Wow, another thread in my honour - you guys must LOVE me!!

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Originally posted by oDrori Mike, I'll have to ask you to try to cocentrate your claims in less threads, it seems like people in here are very annoyed with the high percantage of threads opened by you in this forum... Some of them, in my opinion, could have been parts of others, even though their claims aren't exactly the same.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one oDrori. The issues I bring up I believe to be important issues facing our society today. My main concerns living in this day and age are fanatical Muslims, and the terror they are know to inflict upon "infidels". This is a serious worry that should be addressed, not hidden. I will not stand by while people are blown up, while buildings are demolished by planes, and while hate, propaganda, incitement and lies flow so freely from the Muslim world. Yes, the whole Muslim world. I am not saying that every Muslim is bad; however, wherever there is a Muslim community, there are fanatical Muslims who believe in the total destruction of Israel and the West.

Whatever belongs in existing threads, I make sure to put it there.

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Originally posted by oDrori Also, and this is also a personal wish from myself, you seem to have quoted many HUGE sources as of late, it's tiring to read completey and would make the impatient ones among us just press the "end" button and place another "Melech_Mike is a fant, we won't bother arguing with you this is ridiculous hahaha" post. It's hard at times to edit a source but please, please try to... It's also possible to give a link to a source and quote seperate sentences you find essential for your argument.

I'm not worried about the impatient ones amongst us, they will always find excuses to post flames ect. It is those with patience and the ability to apply themselves to try and understand what�s being discussed, no matter how opposing it may be to your views/beliefs, who I�m trying to get to read these articles/papers.

I would sum up articles for you, but I don't want to instil my bias onto them. I understand they are long, but I do believe that most of us find them interesting (thanks to the many who PM me in support), and worth discussing.

There will always be idiots around us. I think I have come to that acceptance a long time ago; I suggest you learn to do the same.

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Originally posted by oDrori I also wanted to point that in many threads where the level of language has sank it was when you started it or replied to a [slightly]/[very] [badly phrased]/[disrespectful] post. I think all of us really need not to use any swearing in here... It completely makes the place look like a kindergarden at times. Seems like you have indeed lately avoided it though, thumbs up.

I realize that my profanity is out of hand. I have lately tried not to get too worked up about discussions, and give you my word oDrori that I will try to cut profanity in my posts 90%.

It must be noted that I'm in a position where I�m being challenged by the whole pro-Arab lobby on this board. It gets frustrating reading useless post after useless post that accomplishes nothing by bashing. They cannot have a normal conversation without trying to throw things back at me. Why don�t you refute the challenge rather than make a stupid remark? You may actually win the high ground....not too likely though.

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Originally posted by oDrori As for the rest, please refrain from calling Mike anything that you have not proved or concluded from things you've read here or anywhere else, I have yet to see any solid evidence for him being a racist and yet in the past couple of days seems like the cool thing to do is calling him that. It also seems like an "Everyone vs. Mike" marathon now which means we are getting too damn personal on these boards, rather than discusing large-scale phenomena. Use PMs, folks, Mike will decide whether to answer or not and the virtually pointless threads you insist on not contributing to will die faster.

I like receiving PM's from all you lovely people, although I don't respond to idiot messages... well maybe sometimes

*I may be blunt and straightforward in my messages on this board. I believe that we should encourage intelligent discussions on all topics, including ones that may be offensive to the majority of these forums members. I believe most of the worlds hate and violence stems from Islam/Muslims some way or another. To whole world has learned to live together for the most part in peace, why can't the Muslim world learn to do the same? Why should they be any different than the rest of us? They live as equals in the west, so why shouldn't the west live as equals in "their" lands?*

I am not going to stop posting. I will be blunter in future posts if it is called for. I am NOT racist and will not address any comments in regards to racism and me. Once again, for the record, I have many Muslim friends. 2 of them are very dear to me in my life, and know full well where I stand. I'm a very opinionated person; so are they. We love each other to death, and would never let anything get between us. Some of them agree with my stance, others don�t. I can however, undoubtedly say that I�ve heard better rebuttals from them than I have from the pro-Muslim lobby here.

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Originally posted by melech_mike Wow, another thread in my honour - you guys must LOVE me!!

we hate you

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Originally posted by hadi ****** we hate you

Who is "we"?

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Originally posted by hadi ****** we hate you

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Originally posted by melech_mike It gets frustrating reading useless post after useless post that accomplishes nothing by bashing. They cannot have a normal conversation without trying to throw things back at me. Why don�t you refute the challenge rather than make a stupid remark? You may actually win the high ground....not too likely though.

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Originally posted by melech_mike I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one oDrori. The issues I bring up I believe to be important issues facing our society today.

He's telling you this cause you regurgatate the same shit everyday. Its been nothing but arab and muslim bashing from you for the last month (or even longer) and quite frankly we're getting sick of it. Dude, we don't mind you expressing your oponions, but just because you see or read something that brings up issues about muslims and jews doesn't warrant you in creating a thread about it. And another thing, you're recent views are really discomforting. You are doing nothing but making the muslims (arabs espcially) look like killers. There is a limit as to what you can say on these forums. But you never seem to get it. Racism is not tolerated. Also, you have to have respect for the muslim community on these boards and the rest of the world. Just because you're jewish doesn't make you the best people in the world. every walks of life has its bad apple. its just the way it is. You've been putting down alot of muslim people lately and quite frankly, enough is enough. I could have called you names or sweared, but Iam gonna be cool and be respectfull about it. You are really jeopordizing your right to freedom of speech.

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Originally posted by TheDemon ...but just because you see or read something that brings up issues about muslims and jews doesn't warrant you in creating a thread about it.

I beg to differ. I feel that each topic deserves its own thread. If I feel that something I have to say safely falls under the title of another thread, than I�d be more than happy to place it there. As I have in the past.

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Originally posted by TheDemon And another thing, you're recent views are really discomforting. You are doing nothing but making the muslims (arabs espcially) look like killers.

Once again I beg to differ! I feel that it�s the Muslims (Arabs) who are making themselves look bad! I'm just shining light to a dark situation. I'm pointing out its faults and where it can be corrected. Unless we come to terms with the fact that radical, fanatical Muslims threaten everyone�s wellbeing, we will never find a solution to this deadly problem. I don't care what they/you/anyone believe in... You don�t see me picking on Buddhists although they believe in the exact opposite of what Jews believe! It's not a matter of whose religion is right or wrong; it�s a matter of whose religion glorifies the destruction of another nation. That�s where my problem lies... and until this evil is eliminated from the world, I will not rest. I guess I�m just optimistic on what I as an individual, can do for a cause that�s good! I believe in all the is good, this is why I support the US, UK, Israel, and all their allies in they're war on the parasites that unfortunately live on this planet with us.

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Originally posted by TheDemon Also, you have to have respect for the Muslim community on these boards and the rest of the world.

How do you expect me to respect a religion that has only showed me and the rest of the world nothing more than terror, hate, and evil? Muslim clerics openly prompt its followers to wage death on the Jews by committing more tragedy by homicide bombings. I can't respect those who have killed, and continue to kill my family! You don�t see me blowing myself up because they killed members of my family do you?!?

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Originally posted by TheDemon Just because you're Jewish doesn't make you the best people in the world. every walks of life has its bad apple. its just the way it is.

Will wait to answer this question when you show me where I ever said that Jew's are better than any other people on earth.

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Originally posted by TheDemon You've been putting down a lot of Muslim people lately and quite frankly, enough is enough. I could have called you names or sweared, but Iam gonna be cool and be respectfull about it.

A lot of Muslim people have been putting me down lately for my views. A lot of Muslim people wish death upon my people. A lot of Muslim people incite hate against every Jews. A lot of Muslim people wouldn't be happier than to see the death of a Jew.
Yet you complain about me having nothing but bad to say about Muslims. Show me otherwise, and I may change my stance.

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Originally posted by TheDemon You are really jeopordizing your right to freedom of speech.

Why, because you don�t agree with what I have to say?
I don't think I�m jeopardizing anything here, I�m sure many will agree with me!

OK Mike, here's the deal. This forum was created so that people could discuss POLITICS. RELIGION, unless DIRECTLY associtaed with POLITICS shouldn't be discussed in this forum. If you remember in the High Middle Ages, there was a SEPERATION between CHURCH and STATE. Also, I'd like to know who asked you to "free the world of the opressive Muslims." It'd be sure as hell interesting to find out how laid this burden on your shoulders. Also, do you have proof that all Muslim clerics preach death and destructon against Jews/Israelis? OKay, how about this.....all Jewish Rabbis around the world are telling Jews to hate all Muslims, and be racist, ignorant dickheads. Also, they tell Jews to fabricate "truths" regarding Muslim clerics. Do you like the sound of that Mike? No one is telling you to stop talking, but goddamn it Mike, BE CONSTRUCTIVE FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE!!!!!!

First of all, you do regurgatate the same shit everytime mike, due to the fact that its what you read and the topics you relate yourself too. No matter what you read, the only thing i see your final reaction is that all muslims are extremists and that they should be killed. Second of all, I am not a moron. People have been arguing about your recent threads and stating the obvious, which is that your threads are all the same. I do read peoples replies so I know where iam getting my thoughts from. Third of all, the Muslim religion does not say the death and destruction of other religions. Its because of your fanatic ways mike that causes these faulse thoughts. Now you will go and say people like Bin Laden and Ayatollah Khomeynie state this and that about the Koran. What they are saying are all false, they take ideals of the muslim bible and turn it into propaganda and false ideals. Unfortunatley, people like you fall for it. and thats why you feel that Muslims are all about nothing but destruction and death. Fourth of all, like I said before. Wether you like it or not, you still have to give more respect to the muslim members on these forums. They show it to you, so you must show it to them. I have once not once on these forums a Muslim stating their hate against jews (again, only fanatics like would do something like this). Wether you like this reply or not, you still are abusing your freedom of speech. Your not this holy prophet thats going to free the Jews from their supposed oppresive attackers. You might want to come back to the real world and face real world issues.

TheDemon I really like your reply and to be quiet honest my first post on this Political Section was this: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ghlight=zionism
And after my reply I realized that in melech_mike's profile his Interest was Zionism, and I did state I hate zionists and I was clear with it. Mike don't take it personnaly unless you're brainwashed as I mentioned.
I think TheDemon summed up everything i would have thaught to say to Mike anyway.
Thank you

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Originally posted by ZinG TheDemon I really like your reply and to be quiet honest my first post on this Political Section was this: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ghlight=zionism And after my reply I realized that in melech_mike's profile his Interest was Zionism, and I did state I hate zionists and I was clear with it. Mike don't take it personnaly unless you're brainwashed as I mentioned. I think TheDemon summed up everything i would have thaught to say to Mike anyway. Thank you

No problem bud. Iam a muslim. Iam in no way and extremist or fanatic. I do not hate certain religions and by no means condemn any type of violence against them. And your point is very valid. Wether mike likes it or not, he is a fanatic. He sits there day in and out and tries to find fault with the muslim religion. rather than using his time more constructively. And quite frankly, we're all getting sick and tired of it. the same thing over, and over. What I summed up isn't supposed to be something negative towards mike, but to tell him that people do read his comments and do really take offence to quite a bit of them. for now, peace out Zing, iam gonna hit the books for a bit, cause there is more to life than just hating. Later.

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Originally posted by melech_mike How do you expect me to respect a religion that has only showed me and the rest of the world nothing more than terror, hate, and evil?

You're talking about a small extremist minority that have distorted the Koran to fit their purposes. Much like Bush & Co. have distorted Christianity (and the Constitution) to fit their needs and also how the Zionists in Israel have disregarded their own religion to slaughter innocent Palestinians (and now after the Rachel Corrie incident, it appears as if they're willing to kill Americans too.)

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