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Posted by DJ_ALFA on Mar-30-2003 20:00:

Bringing a camera to VIVA

I've tried brnging my camera in a few times to VIVA but there's always that chick bouncer that doesn't let me now I saw a lot of people there with cameras and stuff and I was wondering if anyone could help me sneak it in on PVD?


Posted by E*Master on Mar-30-2003 20:18:

Re: Bringing a camera to VIVA

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_ALFA
I've tried brnging my camera in a few times to VIVA but there's always that chick bouncer that doesn't let me now I saw a lot of people there with cameras and stuff and I was wondering if anyone could help me sneak it in on PVD?


Easy, show up early. Like around the time when the Dancefloor is empty and the early TAz would be ther socializing. that is wha tI do. I have never had any Problems. But I noticed once it gets full in there they do not let u take them in.


Posted by psychosomatica on Mar-30-2003 20:26:

hmm whats the reasoning for that?


Posted by DigiNut on Mar-30-2003 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by psychosomatica
hmm whats the reasoning for that?


I just know that it has something to do with the house dealers.


Posted by E*Master on Mar-30-2003 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by psychosomatica
hmm whats the reasoning for that?


Maybe they want to "limit" the amount of ppl who are taking pictures for their websited (due to the fact that they could clamin ownership of the picture and perhaps sell them). I dunno. I just pulled that reason out of a hat.


Posted by DigiNut on Mar-30-2003 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by E*Master
Maybe they want to "limit" the amount of ppl who are taking pictures for their websited (due to the fact that they could clamin ownership of the picture and perhaps sell them). I dunno. I just pulled that reason out of a hat.


Actually, they can't claim ownership for any pictures. Photos are intellectual property and, technically, if Viva tried to use someone else's photos (for example, from this board or t365) without permission, the person who took the photos could file a lawsuit.

As for a serious reason, I think it's more likely that as the place gets more crowded, the lineups start to get longer, and the bouncers simply have less patience for inspecting everything.

Either that, or maybe the girl just doesn't like you, Alfa. Do you get groped or just looked at suspiciously?


Posted by The Highroller on Mar-31-2003 01:03:

yea that girl has hassled me about my camera a few times too. i convinced her tho


Posted by psychosomatica on Mar-31-2003 01:05:

Are we talkin about the hot frisker chick?


Posted by E*Master on Mar-31-2003 01:43:

Dunno

Maybe it has something to do with age? I never had any Problems witht hat chick. Always smiles politely and never Groped me where she shouldn't have . Maybe u should ask for her number and tell her "You are the Most beautiful Bouncer you have EVER had the pleasure of being groped By". On the other hand it might also get u kicked out.


Posted by malek on Mar-31-2003 03:55:

I'll tell you some reasons for not allowing a cam, cause I work at a club and I think these rules apply anywhere

1-flash are fucking annoying, the place has low light, and you recieve a flash in your face, you wanna kill that guy. Imagine 20 people who have a camera that take pictures non-stop of you the dj.

2-imagine you are a candy kid and all your friends are too... you end up taking pictures of them and maybe you put them on the net... what a bad rep the club gets... candy kid place. It may sound far fetched, but it happens. And club owners don't want a bad rep for their clubs.

3-everyone knows there's lots of drugs in the clubs, imagine you take a picture of your friend as "joe blow at Viva" with a spliff in his mouth or hand. Or worse, people in the background rolling one, sniffing a line, selling Es whatever. This is a NO NO!!!

4a-Some people go to the clubs to have a good time and you're lost in your own world doing maybe stupidities, you don't want people to take pictures of you. Directly or in the background.

4b-At least here in Quebec, you're not allowed to take someone in a picture without his/her consent, you could be sued for taking a picture, and the club for letting you in with it. It happened to me more than a couple of times where people asked me to erase the picture on the spot or take it off the website.

5-Rare, but some DJs just don't want to be taken in pictures. As simple as that. So the club disallow cameras.

6-Also, some maniacs just love to go and take pictures of girls without asking like a fucking retard, they get pissed and might not come back to the club.


All in all, its all about reputation and the club owners who want to control it.


Posted by DJ_ALFA on Mar-31-2003 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by psychosomatica
Are we talkin about the hot frisker chick?


Hmm, I don't think so, I am talking about the Afro-American chick, I guess in her 30s or late 20s, damn, I even tried to tip her, still didn't work, I just hope she isn't there at PVD


Posted by mot10n on Mar-31-2003 05:28:

fastmp3, i agree with all your posts. it's true, there are a lot of people who are asses and just go around snapping pics like crazy. some people might not like it when i just take a shot of the crowd or whatever. so yeah, it's basically to cover their (club) asses and minimize risks.

but on the other hand, how bad is a flash considering the lasers, and the strobe lights? i mean, come on, those are just as annoying sometimes

and with me, i basically take pics to remember the night, not to try to snap pics of etards, or get hot chicks and shit like that.

and about the candy kid thing, still riled up about apocalypse? lol, get over the fact that there's different kinds of ravers/clubbers ^_^

but yeah, those points are valid. i'm on the fence about cams. now, if you're vip, then you should be allowed to have them hands down.


Posted by Tudo Beleza on Mar-31-2003 05:56:

motion i think you got the montreal TA's mixed up


Posted by malek on Mar-31-2003 07:20:

hahaha its ok about the confusion.

But motion, it depends on the clubs, maybe Viva is brighter, but I was talking more about my own experiences, I went to Aria about 30 times or so in the last year, and I still get killed by the fucking flash when someone takes a pic of me I can't see shit for like 3 full seconds. So imagine if you're the dj and you're continuosly getting bombarded by flashes... you'll go ape shit and start killing people

Still, the club owners take lots of risks by letting anyone taking pics. Hehe mr. Boliss opening mr joe's webpage and sees people rolling phatties


Posted by Crazy Serb on Mar-31-2003 08:35:

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1-flash are fucking annoying, the place has low light, and you recieve a flash in your face, you wanna kill that guy. Imagine 20 people who have a camera that take pictures non-stop of you the dj.


Aren't there cameras without that annoying flash? Some digital ones or something...?

quote:

2-imagine you are a candy kid and all your friends are too... you end up taking pictures of them and maybe you put them on the net... what a bad rep the club gets... candy kid place. It may sound far fetched, but it happens. And club owners don't want a bad rep for their clubs.


Simple - don't allow candy kids in the club...

quote:

3-everyone knows there's lots of drugs in the clubs, imagine you take a picture of your friend as "joe blow at Viva" with a spliff in his mouth or hand. Or worse, people in the background rolling one, sniffing a line, selling Es whatever. This is a NO NO!!!


Again, simple - don't allow drugs in the clubs, and have security staff running around looking for people selling the drugs.

quote:

4a-Some people go to the clubs to have a good time and you're lost in your own world doing maybe stupidities, you don't want people to take pictures of you. Directly or in the background.


True, true... but you can always ask the person who took the pic to delete it or something.

quote:

4b-At least here in Quebec, you're not allowed to take someone in a picture without his/her consent, you could be sued for taking a picture, and the club for letting you in with it. It happened to me more than a couple of times where people asked me to erase the picture on the spot or take it off the website.


See the point above...

quote:

5-Rare, but some DJs just don't want to be taken in pictures. As simple as that. So the club disallow cameras.


Fuck them, for the money we pay to see them they better allow us to take pictures of them... (only selfish and arrogant sons of the bitches would not want themselves in the pictures... either that or they are probably ugly as hell and they know it)

quote:

6-Also, some maniacs just love to go and take pictures of girls without asking like a fucking retard, they get pissed and might not come back to the club.


Oh well... a few of them get scared away, so what?!


Posted by fastmp3 on Mar-31-2003 09:14:

quote:
Originally posted by mot10n
fastmp3, i agree with all your posts.



thank you you can join my fan club by contacting the president Porky (chicago forum mod)


Posted by fastmp3 on Mar-31-2003 09:21:

quote:
Originally posted by fantom
Aren't there cameras without that annoying flash? Some digital ones or something...?


Hello ? no flash in dark ?

quote:
Simple - don't allow candy kids in the club...


or simply don't allow people wearing jeans and sneakers while you're at it

quote:
Again, simple - don't allow drugs in the clubs, and have security staff running around looking for people selling the drugs.


as far as i know clubs don't allow drugs inside , and security staff is constantly running around looking for people selling drugs ... saying it's possible having a "0 drugs inside the club" policy is just RIDICULOUS


quote:
Fuck them, for the money we pay to see them they better allow us to take pictures of them... (only selfish and arrogant sons of the bitches would not want themselves in the pictures... either that or they are probably ugly as hell and they know it)


true but those djs who are cocky are mostly the most difficult ones to get ... i don't wanna mention any name

quote:
Oh well... a few of them get scared away, so what?!


so what?! girls are essential in a club , as far as i know you would be complaining big time if the dancefloor was a sausage fest



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