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Posted by drewfactor on Apr-01-2003 05:32:

BPM changing during sets

I was wondering if there's any special rules to speeding up or slowing down your sets. I mean, say you start your set out with a slower prog tune..but you want to have it faster to mix in a faster trance track...but in order to mix in the trance track you would have to slow it down...what if you speed up the prog tracks earlier in the set by raising the pitch while it's not being mixed?


Posted by auujay on Apr-01-2003 05:34:

Yes totally, I do this. The only thing is to do it slowly and try to avoid it if the only music at that moment is vocals or strings.


Posted by b i n k u n on Apr-01-2003 05:59:

yea, pitching it up VERY slowly is key...like honestly millimeters at a time. and try to spread it out over the length of the song, not in like one 32 beat phrase or something. try not to pitch up too much in any one given track tho, like pitch one song up 1%, then to get to that song, pitch it up another 1%, and so on.


Posted by 24K on Apr-01-2003 07:14:

Pitch it up during the breakdown,,, just not too much ;-)


Posted by jesten on Apr-03-2003 09:30:

quote:
Originally posted by 24K
Pitch it up during the breakdown,,, just not too much ;-)


I agree, that is the best way.


Posted by Tony Morello on Apr-03-2003 17:53:

Re: BPM changing during sets

quote:
Originally posted by drewfactor
I was wondering if there's any special rules to speeding up or slowing down your sets. I mean, say you start your set out with a slower prog tune..but you want to have it faster to mix in a faster trance track...but in order to mix in the trance track you would have to slow it down...what if you speed up the prog tracks earlier in the set by raising the pitch while it's not being mixed?


for one thing, there's no rules for djing
as long as you and the crowd are having fun, that's all that matters... not how you do it, but that you're doing it

and as for your question, like someone posted, it's best to do it over the course of a few songs
pitch the record up slowly during the breakdown and then do it a little more on the next record during the breakdown
although if you have a really synth or vocal heavy breakdown... try just as the beat ends just as the breakdown elements are starting to make their appearance


Posted by deejay2002 on Apr-03-2003 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by 24K
Pitch it up during the breakdown,,, just not too much ;-)


that is the best way.....but just go with your flow. This one time, I was play Yahel - devotion (armin van buuren reimx) at 146 bpm, and after the second break down, i just dropped the pitch control all the way down! People noticed it and they went nuts! (some songs are meant to play faster )


Posted by dknylady on Apr-03-2003 20:11:

yes, what i do is change the pitch on the currently playing record very very slowly when there is a break w/out vocals.
but there should be no problem with slowing down a harder track..i spin hard trance and often i have to make it -5 bpm, just out of respect to the next dj,who spins house...sounds fine..


Posted by Choobak on Apr-04-2003 18:42:

do whatever you want... i remember when pvd was here a while back he was getting towards the last two hours of his set and he wanted to transition into some more energetic fast tempo stuff... he played suburban hell and pitched it up at least 5% during the breakdown... it was totally noticeable but it really worked well to increase the energy...


Posted by DJ Kibon on Apr-05-2003 20:31:

I'm at the bedroom DJ stage, but when I'm doing my online shoutcast broadcasts on www.afterhoursdjs.org I have no problem at all playing around with pitch.

I've been working on building up lots of energy during a set, with a fairly slow start (speaking of which, I really need to buy some more "hard" vinyl). Doing pitch adjustments slowly will generally work well, and I usually do it the most during breakdowns/melodic parts.

That said, with an 8% pitch control on Technics, you're not going to easily transition from a slow track to a high BPM one.


Posted by ray_c on Apr-07-2003 16:08:

If its for CDs use your wave program!

If your last tune is say running at +2. You can pitch the whole CD down 2 %.

Then if you want to make it a bit more banging just timestretch it a bit!



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