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Posted by Vestan_Pance on Apr-03-2003 08:24:

Scott Bond Vs Solarstone - 3rd Earth

One of the top 5 tunes of 2003 so far.
Hammered by Armin and others, fantastic tune with haunting 'vocals'

Love it!


Posted by eXos on Apr-03-2003 09:54:

Dont like the tune anymore. It gets bored after a while...


Posted by GoAcid on Apr-03-2003 11:26:

When will it be realease??


Posted by Vestan_Pance on Apr-03-2003 11:54:

It may never get a full release but the promo is out and has been ripped.


Posted by Slice on Apr-03-2003 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by !_PeTrUs_!
Dont like the tune anymore. It gets bored after a while...


Full ACK!


Posted by arctic on Apr-03-2003 13:07:

i heard they are having trouble clearing a sample, so yeah, it may not get released


Posted by mr_smidge on Apr-03-2003 13:24:

I have just bought this on vinyl, but it appears to be shorter than the mp3 which has been circulating on the hub..

The version on the hub that I have is 11:27 long, but I have just ripped my own copy from vinyl and found that it is roughly 8:48 in duration.. Any clues here?

Thanks people,


Posted by Vestan_Pance on Apr-03-2003 13:33:

The rip on the hub was not a pukka rip.

Latest one is about the 8:48 you suggest


Posted by mr_smidge on Apr-03-2003 13:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Vestan_Pance
The rip on the hub was not a pukka rip.

Latest one is about the 8:48 you suggest


Ahh, makes sense..

It's a lovely tune, too; very relaxing. Kinda reminds me of Citizen Caned - The Journey a little bit..


Posted by noonboy on Apr-03-2003 20:46:

hmm...maybe...except of that "the journey" is too cheesy if u ain't in a trance...and that's not everyday i am either....

but this one really gets me tranced! only problem is the repetation in the tune...it may get boring in the future...so i guess it'll be forgotten by most ppl.


Posted by InfiniteSquare on Apr-03-2003 21:04:

isn't there already about 20 other threads about this


Posted by refuge on Apr-04-2003 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
isn't there already about 20 other threads about this


you absolutely right


Posted by Jocker on Apr-04-2003 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
isn't there already about 20 other threads about this


they were all deleted


Posted by Vestan_Pance on Apr-04-2003 06:12:

There were no previous threads in this forum according to the


Posted by Joca on Apr-04-2003 06:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Vestan_Pance
The rip on the hub was not a pukka rip.

Latest one is about the 8:48 you suggest


Pukka???

quote:
Originally posted by mr_smidge
I have just bought this on vinyl, but it appears to be shorter than the mp3 which has been circulating on the hub..


Where did u get this from?


Posted by tRpi` on Apr-04-2003 08:29:

i love the track, nice vocals.. :thumbsup


Posted by Echoes of Dusk on Apr-04-2003 08:39:

Question Where to buy?

Yes.. but any idea on where this promo can be purchased?


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Apr-04-2003 11:51:

whatever happened to pure instrumental trance?? It seems all these great artists (tiesto and AVB, Ferry, PVD included) have this desire to put vocals in all their new productions and I don't like it.

Vocals are good in a track like In My Memory or U Shine but the majority of trance tunes should be non vocal. Of course, this is my opinion (and I'm sure some of you share it) but I long for the days of pure instrumental tracks like Open Your Eyes (original), Viola remix by Armin, Voyage by Yahel, etc etc.

I guess that's why I can't wait for My Religion and Avalon.


Posted by mr_smidge on Apr-04-2003 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Carona
Where did u get this from?


There were limited promos at Chemical Records.


Posted by Turbotrance on Apr-04-2003 13:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
whatever happened to pure instrumental trance?? It seems all these great artists (tiesto and AVB, Ferry, PVD included) have this desire to put vocals in all their new productions and I don't like it.

Vocals are good in a track like In My Memory or U Shine but the majority of trance tunes should be non vocal. Of course, this is my opinion (and I'm sure some of you share it) but I long for the days of pure instrumental tracks like Open Your Eyes (original), Viola remix by Armin, Voyage by Yahel, etc etc.

I guess that's why I can't wait for My Religion and Avalon.


I agree but there still are plenty of instrumental tunes coming out

Good trance should be 70% Instrumental and 30% vocal tracks

Turbotrance


Posted by Sid on Apr-04-2003 13:40:

Yeah awesome track, took a while for full release , although worth the wait


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Apr-05-2003 11:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Turbotrance
I agree but there still are plenty of instrumental tunes coming out

Good trance should be 70% Instrumental and 30% vocal tracks

Turbotrance


Yeah, that sounds about right. It just seems that some of the big boys like Tiesto, Ferry, Armin, etc want to get out of the "rave stereotype" and they think that by putting vocals in their songs will make them seem like "real artists".

Almost all of Tiesto's remixes lately have been of vocal tracks. I really hope his new single NYANA which will be on the CD Nyana is non vocal. It's been a long time since we heard a real banger from Tijs.

That said, 3rd Earth is still a good track.


Posted by Jourdain on Apr-05-2003 11:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
whatever happened to pure instrumental trance?? It seems all these great artists (tiesto and AVB, Ferry, PVD included) have this desire to put vocals in all their new productions and I don't like it.

Vocals are good in a track like In My Memory or U Shine but the majority of trance tunes should be non vocal. Of course, this is my opinion (and I'm sure some of you share it) but I long for the days of pure instrumental tracks like Open Your Eyes (original), Viola remix by Armin, Voyage by Yahel, etc etc.

I guess that's why I can't wait for My Religion and Avalon.


I totally agree !! Most of the vocals are really crappy/cheesy nowadays. I dislike vocals for years now and I am a real instrumental-orientated Trance-lover. That's why your avatar is one of the best CD's of all time


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Apr-05-2003 11:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Jourdain
I totally agree !! Most of the vocals are really crappy/cheesy nowadays. I dislike vocals for years now and I am a real instrumental-orientated Trance-lover. That's why your avatar is one of the best CD's of all time


Thanks mate....sometimes vocals can be good. Like the greatest Cd of all time (Magik 6)...that has one pure vocal track (Tiesto's Silence remix) and it's great. But it's not the best one on there.

GREAT vocal tracks are rare in my opinion and Dj's should only remix or produce a vocal track if it's going to be phenomenal. It seems as if they all put vocals in tracks now, just for the hell of it. And most of it just ain't trance!

I guess Tiesto and the rest are maturing, but part of the appeal of trance for me was the melodies and bass and unique uplifting sounds. Trance doesn't NEED vocals...it's already genius without them!


Posted by Jourdain on Apr-05-2003 12:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
Thanks mate....sometimes vocals can be good. Like the greatest Cd of all time (Magik 6)...that has one pure vocal track (Tiesto's Silence remix) and it's great. But it's not the best one on there.

GREAT vocal tracks are rare in my opinion and Dj's should only remix or produce a vocal track if it's going to be phenomenal. It seems as if they all put vocals in tracks now, just for the hell of it. And most of it just ain't trance!

I guess Tiesto and the rest are maturing, but part of the appeal of trance for me was the melodies and bass and unique uplifting sounds. Trance doesn't NEED vocals...it's already genius without them!



Melody is the main element of Trance-music, so vocals are useless in my opinion. Sometimes I see people posting the word Hard-Trance, how can Trance be associated with Hard. Trance is build on melodie and uplifting sounds.

I agree about the remixing-part in your post. That's why I adore Laurent Veronnez. If he's remixing a vocal-track, for 99% I'm sure he's going to make an instrumental remix or he reduces the vocals to a very minimum (Andain - Summer calling for instance).


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