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Posted by capricorn15 on Apr-04-2003 08:33:

Why is this happening

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml

not sure if that one is real, check it


Posted by malek on Apr-04-2003 09:21:

yeah its real. it was on the news about a month ago.


Posted by Taub on Apr-04-2003 09:21:

That won't be on the news in the US for sure or anything relating to the story


What happens is very fucked up....imagine how many palestinians are killed by them?


Posted by occrider on Apr-04-2003 16:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Taub
That won't be on the news in the US for sure or anything relating to the story


What happens is very fucked up....imagine how many palestinians are killed by them?


It was on the news when it happened. CNN even showed the photos.


Posted by LiquidX on Apr-04-2003 16:46:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
It was on the news when it happened. CNN even showed the photos.


That's why I like CNN 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000x better then FOXnews.


Posted by capricorn15 on Apr-04-2003 18:39:

ya gotta wonder, where is melech mike for his contribution


Posted by Cyrus King on Apr-04-2003 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
It was on the news when it happened. CNN even showed the photos.

They actually only showed these two.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast...eath/index.html

That cold-blooded driver should rot in hell for this.
And what makes me even more angry is that the Israeli government brought it back to them acting iressponsibly. For gods sake, they were demolishing a home, and people were protesting this. Why are they demolishing in the first place... to fulfill their disgusting zionist imperial intentions.

Melech-mike.. did she deserve to be crushed? Was she a terrorist? She certainly wasnt a muslim fundementalist.


Posted by Izzy on Apr-05-2003 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
... to fulfill their disgusting zionist imperial intentions.

seriously, is this really what you belive?
quote:

She certainly wasnt a muslim fundementalist.

i'd beg to differ.
although i can not say for certain she was a muslim, the head dress might indicate something. what i am sure is that she was an extremest.

notice the many children around her... not the education i would want my children to be around.

now i will admit that what the driver did was wrong and very regretable, i hope he gets court marshelled and serves some sort of punishment. i do however agree with the bulldozing of terrorists homes and homes used as bases of military operations. i belive the israelis could have handeled the situation better by just arresting her until the demolition was done. still:



oh and btw it was reported on fox news as well - i saw it on tv, so there


Posted by Cyrus King on Apr-05-2003 02:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Izzy
seriously, is this really what you belive?


Yes, i beleive that Israel is run by Zionists who want to remove the palestinian majority in order to take over the whole sector.. that is why the nation is in the state that it is.

quote:

i'd beg to differ.
although i can not say for certain she was a muslim, the head dress might indicate something. what i am sure is that she was an extremest.

notice the many children around her... not the education i would want my children to be around.


The burning of the American and Israeli flag has been an ongoing thing around the world. What we dont know is why she was burning those flags. Her reasons could be and probably are different from the palestinian terrorist fundementalists that go off killing innocent people. I could burn the American flag too, not becuase i hate america, but becuase i am against their war mongering efforts to gain oil.

People here in Toronto and Montreal, Italy, Spain and Greece have publicly burned the Israeli and American flags, are they fundementalists?
In fact, my sister even witnessed the burning by caucasians here.

Though she may have been an extremist, her death was grossly unwarrented. She posed no threat at the time of her death.

quote:

now i will admit that what the driver did was wrong and very regretable, i hope he gets court marshelled and serves some sort of punishment. i do however agree with the bulldozing of terrorists homes and homes used as bases of military operations. i belive the israelis could have handeled the situation better by just arresting her until the demolition was done. still:



oh and btw it was reported on fox news as well - i saw it on tv, so there


Im not disputing that it wasnt reported, im just trying to point out how these news braodcasts didnt express or reveal the guy who killed her. Also, it was more like a news clipet than a strory.

I dont think demolishing terrorist homes will solve anything, that is wwhy there are still attacks on Israel.

I also beleive that Israel has labeleled "terrosist" on many people without justification. They have bulldozed many homes and blown up many apartments and building, literally destroying the infrastructeure of palestinian land... or whats left of it.

That cartoon only disgusts me even further. By calling her actions as stupid, only goes to show the lack of respect the cartoonist has for the situation. Izzy, do you think her death was stupid? that she died because of a stupid reason? The cartoon was nevertheless drawn by a Jew....im not surprised


Posted by JM on Apr-05-2003 04:20:

bitch will burn in hell just cos she commited suicide. too bad for her. i don't pity her at all, like i said, she killed herself.

the bullet was already travelling. she just happened to voluntarily step in front of it.

>JM<


Posted by Cyrus King on Apr-05-2003 04:45:

quote:
Originally posted by JM
bitch will burn in hell just cos she commited suicide. too bad for her. i don't pity her at all, like i said, she killed herself.

the bullet was already travelling. she just happened to voluntarily step in front of it.

>JM<


Just like all the other palestinians youths who choose to "voluntarily" step infront of an Israeli bullet..... heck they all like commiting suicide.. YEEEEEE HAAAAAWWW JM!!!!


Posted by occrider on Apr-06-2003 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Yes, i beleive that Israel is run by Zionists who want to remove the palestinian majority in order to take over the whole sector.. that is why the nation is in the state that it is.

The cartoon was nevertheless drawn by a Jew....im not surprised


You generalize as much as melech ever did. It's funny seeing this happen from the other side and the mods taking no action at all


Posted by ZinG on Apr-06-2003 07:52:

Thumbs up

bravo I applauds your respect to humanity


Posted by Cyrus King on Apr-06-2003 08:10:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
You generalize as much as melech ever did. It's funny seeing this happen from the other side and the mods taking no action at all


Stop putting words in my fucking mouth! Read what i wrote.... i think that Israel is RUN by zionist right-wingers who want to remove the palestinian majority, just like my notion of the US government being run by hawkish republican right-wingers who want IRaqs oil!

By no means am i generalizing the public... wake up!


Posted by occrider on Apr-06-2003 09:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Stop putting words in my fucking mouth! Read what i wrote.... i think that Israel is RUN by zionist right-wingers who want to remove the palestinian majority, just like my notion of the US government being run by hawkish republican right-wingers who want IRaqs oil!

By no means am i generalizing the public... wake up!


I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm merely quoting what you are saying ... I think that you ARE generalizing. The US is not being run by Bush. The US is being run by the executive branch, the legislative branch which has ceded the exuctive branch the powers with which it now operates from, and with the will of the MAJORITY of the American people who agree with the actions taken. Not to mention that the judiciary branch is ensuring that constitutional law is not being violated. So NO the US government is NOT being run by hawkish republican right-wingers who are after Iraqis oil. Especially since you have failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this entire conflict is ABOUT oil. I won't comment about the Israeli government since I'm not too familiar about it but I'm sure izzy or yoepus would love to comment on it.

BTW: What am I supposed to imply about a cartoon drawn by an arab?


Posted by sifntj0r on Apr-06-2003 10:23:

go occy, fireup son


Posted by DaveSZ on Apr-06-2003 12:08:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
That's why I like CNN 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000x better then FOXnews.


Foxnews would have reported her as a hapless nitwit.....

Funny how O'reiley's show is called the "no spin zone."

He has more "spin" than anyone...


Posted by dandelion on Apr-06-2003 15:09:

Yes the US mass media usually does not have a problem reporting US citizen casualties of Israeli terrorism. However they do sometimes ignore them, such as during the Jenin invasion the first casualty was a woman who was shot in the head while sitting in her car with her baby in her lap, she was also a US citizen. And yes the occupation is terrorism unless of course you support it, in which case it's called defense.


Posted by Cyrus King on Apr-06-2003 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm merely quoting what you are saying ... I think that you ARE generalizing. The US is not being run by Bush. The US is being run by the executive branch, the legislative branch which has ceded the exuctive branch the powers with which it now operates from, and with the will of the MAJORITY of the American people who agree with the actions taken. Not to mention that the judiciary branch is ensuring that constitutional law is not being violated. So NO the US government is NOT being run by hawkish republican right-wingers who are after Iraqis oil. Especially since you have failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this entire conflict is ABOUT oil. I won't comment about the Israeli government since I'm not too familiar about it but I'm sure izzy or yoepus would love to comment on it.

BTW: What am I supposed to imply about a cartoon drawn by an arab?


First off, if you dont know much about the Israeli government, how can you say im generalizing.

I dont care about your little analysis you just posted on the intracacies of your government... im telling you my opinion about the memebers of your federal government, NOT THE POPULATION OF THE US!

And dont give me that bullshit of the government representing the majority, when that monkey in office didnt even get the MAJORITY vote!


Posted by occrider on Apr-07-2003 13:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
First off, if you dont know much about the Israeli government, how can you say im generalizing.


Even though I don't know a whole lot about the Israeli government, I DO know enough about it that it isn't a government run by "Zionists" (with the negative implications you imply) who's sole goal is to remove the Palestinian presence. As much as you may want to portray the Israeli and the US government as being run by 2 or 3 "extremists" Israel has a knesset, and the US has a congress which have a controlling say in the happenings of the country. Bush didn't just get up and decide one morning to attack Iraq, he had to get congressional APPROVAL.

quote:

And dont give me that bullshit of the government representing the majority, when that monkey in office didnt even get the MAJORITY vote!


HE won the MAJORITY of the electoral states which is what COUNTS in this country's election process. It's an election process that was devised and approved by the people so yes according to the rules that we set up, he DOES represent the majority. And I was speaking with regards to his current actions which are representative of what the majority think in this country and is aptly reflected in the newest release of his approval ratings.



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