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Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-04-2003 08:42:

Angry SARS: events being cancelled/business hurt

I appologize for adding another SARS related thread.. but..
all i'm gonna say is..

who pays for all this paranoia??

answer: we do.

SARS dampening business

Tourist industry, Chinatown pinched; grocery delivery service prospers
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=968705899037


there's nothing wrong with being careful.. but i'm getting pretty pissed off at the media blowing this outta proportions and fear mongering being caused by a lot of people. we're gonna end up paying for all this .. in worse ways than some.


Posted by Bizz on Apr-04-2003 08:49:

Check for an article about SARS and discrimination against Asians and Chinese.. that's the shittier price to pay for this disease..


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-04-2003 10:30:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=968793972154

quote:
Federal Health Minister Anne McLellan said yesterday the travel alerts are an "overreaction," and if an individual takes "sensible and reasonable precautions, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't go to Toronto."

"I go to Toronto every week. I fly back and forth and through the airport, and I'm going to continue to do that," she told reporters. "There's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't. And you should go to restaurants in Toronto and you should go to the movies and you should be out and about spending ... money."

The minister said she's concerned about the potential for economic fallout if travellers heed the travel advisories, and suggested the federal government take steps to minimize the damage. Already a major conference of 12,000 cancer experts, that was to have been held in the city this weekend, has been cancelled, a loss that's estimated to cost city coffers millions.

"I think that it is probably a situation where our Department of Foreign Affairs, our embassies and consulates in various countries need to be out there making sure that people understand what is happening and isn't happening in this country."


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-04-2003 16:13:

see if pvd cancelled because of that..tho i dunno

the asians are going to be blamed and the hate will continue. I saw it in college yesterday, on the bus, when I was walking home. It's tough to see everyone hating a group of people because 10 ppl came down with a disease but it originated elsewhere. Also this is be a tremendous blow to our tourism which Toronto's economy relies on heavily.


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-04-2003 18:45:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
see if pvd cancelled because of that..tho i dunno

the asians are going to be blamed and the hate will continue. I saw it in college yesterday, on the bus, when I was walking home. It's tough to see everyone hating a group of people because 10 ppl came down with a disease but it originated elsewhere. Also this is be a tremendous blow to our tourism which Toronto's economy relies on heavily.


i haven't witnessed any ill feelings due to this disease. but that might be because I live in a predominantly asian area. Although, my prof in one class did tell me and a few other friends that he's been told to avoid associating with asians, but he tells us that he think it's BS. The virus has already spread out to other communities who are not asian in descent so i don't think it matters anymore at this point. this virus is indescriminant..


Posted by Trance Outlaw on Apr-04-2003 22:17:

Aids was blamed on the Africans.
Small pox blamed on native indians.
SARS blamed on the Chinese.

Wake up people!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what people do when they are afraid!!! They look for differences and exploit them. Fear breeds discrimination.
Aside from illness being related to a race just think of how it must be for middle eastern people to board airplanes since 9-11.
Unfortunately ignorance is rampant. Deal with it!
Asians shouldn't be surprised in the least by the way people are reacting to this. After all there was a time where you guys had to pay a head tax just to live in British Columbia because people were scared that all the good jobs would be taken .


Posted by quddha on Apr-05-2003 04:00:

always gotta have a scapegoat when you can't explain whats going on. :P


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-05-2003 04:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Outlaw

Small pox blamed on native indians.


how could it be blamed on the native Indians.. ? i thought small pox was brought over to the Americas by Europeans .. ??

anyways.. the main reason why this virus spread in Toronto and not as much in Vancouver which has just about as many Asians and the port of entry for them, is because the carrier failed to seek immediate medical attention when she was infected and stayed at home thereby infecting her son who also died from the disease. at this point health care workers at the hospitals had been infected. the carrier who brought it to Vancouver was already really sick and apparently it's less contagious at this point than in its early stages. Toronto already raised the red flag so this guy was put into immediate incubation ..

so basically the reason is ..
1. Timing
2. Bad luck

result:
1. NO PVD!


Posted by TheDemon on Apr-06-2003 03:15:

Though it is a serious threat, I think it being a bit overexagerated.


Posted by AmbiguousBliss on Apr-06-2003 03:17:

quote:
Originally posted by TheDemon
Though it is a serious threat, I think it being a bit overexagerated.

If the media can make money off of it by hyping it up, then they will.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Apr-06-2003 15:06:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
how could it be blamed on the native Indians.. ? i thought small pox was brought over to the Americas by Europeans .. ??


It was...
Speaking of being mis-informed...


Posted by Trance Outlaw on Apr-06-2003 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
It was...
Speaking of being mis-informed...


AIDS was also brought over by some other than who it was blamed on......


Posted by corsten_addict on Apr-06-2003 16:28:

I am Chinese myself but I can't help but avoid places like Pac Mall or any place in Richmond Hill. I normally don't hang out there anyway but it's just a part of my fear, in the subconscious. Although I've noticed myself not touching the surface of any public transport vehicle nor do I go near anyone who looks/sounds remotely sick.


Posted by DJOS2 on Apr-06-2003 16:48:

Have the crowds at Viva been effected by this?

OS


Posted by Fir3start3r on Apr-06-2003 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Outlaw
AIDS was also brought over by some other than who it was blamed on......


Lemmie guess....monkeys?


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-07-2003 03:35:

KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by DJOS2
Have the crowds at Viva been effected by this?

OS


not from what i've heard thus far..


Posted by Tudo Beleza on Apr-11-2003 04:01:

SARS in Canada

China syndrome

Apr 10th 2003
From The Economist print edition


Canada's largest city hopes that quarantine will work

IN THE past month, more than 230 people in Canada may have contracted Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), and ten have died from the pneumonia-like disease. That makes Canada's the worst outbreak of the disease anywhere outside Asia�and it has thrown the health services in Toronto, where most of the cases have occurred, into turmoil.

The outbreak began when a Toronto resident returned home from Hong Kong carrying the infection. It quickly spread to her family, to the hospital where they were treated, and then to another. Health workers were themselves infected. Michael Silverman, an infectious-disease specialist in the city, says that many of his colleagues have been in quarantine, unable to work, after attending a meeting where a doctor who later developed the disease was present.

The two affected hospitals were temporarily closed, and the rest placed on high alert. All non-essential medical services, such as hip-replacement surgery and even HIV clinics, have been suspended. Toll-free helplines, websites and special SARS screening centres have been set up to deal with public anxiety about coughs and sneezes.

Face masks are much in demand in Toronto. Quarantine has become a city ritual. Thousands of people who visited the two affected hospitals, or had contact with a SARS victim when not wearing a mask, have been staying at home, in �voluntary isolation�, for ten days.

Health officials hope that all of this has brought the outbreak under control. So far, all those infected had either visited other affected countries, or had contact with a known SARS patient or one of the hospitals involved. Wider transmission of the disease may have been avoided. Even so, some health experts fear a further wave of victims, if it turns out that the disease can be spread by other means than close contact.

SARS has already damaged Toronto's economy. Fewer tourists are visible in the city's hotels and restaurants. Spain and Australia have issued warnings against travel to Toronto. A big American medical conference was to be held there last week; it was cancelled, depriving the city of tens of thousands of visitors. Chinese-owned shops and restaurants are empty, and Chinese-Canadians complain that they are facing discrimination. It is true that the city's Chinese residents retain close links with China and Hong Kong. But many of those infected are not of Chinese origin, having picked up the bug in hospitals.

In the United States, only 149 cases and no deaths have been recorded. So why has Toronto been hit so hard? Perhaps because it was unlucky enough to receive the first SARS case in North America. The disease spread fast before being detected, in a city caught unawares. Canadians must hope that quarantine does its job.


Posted by harcourt on Apr-11-2003 19:12:

Even the yanks here in San Jose are asking me a ton of questions about SARS in Toronto because they hear about it on the news. You have a better chance at winning the lotto 6/49 then getting SARS (or equival.).

Fear is contageous.


Posted by Wurm on Apr-15-2003 15:17:

Worm Popper

Fuck, I am trying to arrange a school trip for my Geography classes. The Nuclear power station is out -fine. Today I tried to get in touch with Sir Adam Beck generating station at the Falls, and I was informed that because of SARS they are no longer offering tours.

Grr. Farm trip it is.


Posted by Wurm on Apr-15-2003 15:21:

Worm Popper

Wal-Mart and Harvard (talk about opposite ends of the spectrum) have cancelled and advised against travel to Toronto.


Posted by Waxen on Apr-15-2003 16:21:

Sad

Well listen to what I have to go through!
I am due June 9th, and if this Sars crap isn't over.. I will have to deliver on my own and will be allowed no visitors!... Then once I'm discharged from the hospital, I'll have to be quarantined for 10 days at home w/ the baby..! I've just about had it with this BS!

*S*


Posted by Wurm on Apr-15-2003 16:49:

Worm Popper

What a way to put a crimp in the most life-changing event of all. Don't worry, you'll be in love with a brand new person after that, and the circumstances won't matter.


Posted by Waxen on Apr-15-2003 20:23:

Talking

quote:
Originally posted by Wurm
What a way to put a crimp in the most life-changing event of all. Don't worry, you'll be in love with a brand new person after that, and the circumstances won't matter.


You're totally right - but a woman wants a good support group with her when she's trying to push out 8 pounds! Afterwards, I'll most likely want to be alone with the baby, so it doesn't matter.
BOO SARS!!!

*S*


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-16-2003 03:20:

KarateKid

my uncle and his family have been quarantined !

good thing my family hasn't come in contact with them since this thing has started..


Posted by Durafei on Apr-16-2003 13:20:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
my uncle and his family have been quarantined !

good thing my family hasn't come in contact with them since this thing has started..


Hm... At least one member if this board have been quarantened and relatives of another were as well.

I guess chances of getting infected by SARS aren't that small after all.


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